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In reply to the discussion: I would like to hear your ideas on why my REPUBLICAN Senators oppose Chained CPI. [View all]caseymoz
(5,763 posts)10. Damage the Democratic agenda?
It's not like Obama is standing for re-election again, and it's his name that's attached to this disaster. I think damage to the Democratic agenda will stop with him.
Republicans don't "like" Chained CPI for any other reason except it's offered as a deal for raising taxes. Since they aren't going to raise taxes under any circumstances, they might as well come out and say they're against Chained CPI rather than suffer political damage they can avoid. In other words, their opposition isn't real in any sense. It's a wise political posture.
No, I really think opposing Chained CPI is not going to damage any of that other stuff. What will truly damage the Democrats is if they vote for Chaines CPI. That would be damaging. You can expect rock bottom turnout from Democrats in 2014 if House Democrats embrace it.
Here's the best we can hope for: the current deadlock lock on the sequester breaks decisively against the Repubs in 2014. The cuts are undercutting too many of Republican supporters in the lower classes and the upper age group. Those voters are going to be a lot more open to voting Democratic. In the meantime, though, the Dems can't give away the store. Enacting CCPI will lose the dems more votes than they will gain.
I want to add though that Obama's offer seems like bullshit to me. Democrats in Congress aren't going for Chained CPI. Even if enough Repubs don't see it in their political interest to turn down Chained CPI, the dems in the Senate will certainly block it. So, Obama shouldn't really be the one negotiating now. That's up to the Dems in Congress.
So, I don't know what the hell he's doing.
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I would like to hear your ideas on why my REPUBLICAN Senators oppose Chained CPI. [View all]
patrice
Apr 2013
OP
It's so surreal it's like they're doing some kind of mind control experiment.
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#21
No, you don't have it. I'm asking you what price you are willing to pay to stop Chained CPI.
patrice
Apr 2013
#32
Because it's highly unpopular among seniors of both parties (the most likely voters in 2014)?
eridani
Apr 2013
#9
Are you saying the Progressive Caucus budget proposed chained CPI for SS increases?
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2013
#14
No, I'm not saying that about the Progressive budget. I'm asking people what price they're
patrice
Apr 2013
#34
The problem is that Obama has been pushing for chained CPI more than Republicans
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2013
#46
"need to be"? Not even I am saying people should be anti-NEED, so yours is a divide and conquer
patrice
Apr 2013
#38
I am so sick and tired of the Obamapoligists trying to justify every thing this president does
bowens43
Apr 2013
#16
So say now what price you are willing to pay to stop CPI, so that when that price comes due you
patrice
Apr 2013
#44
Wait-- I thought this was an offer they would never, ever accept, and that's why he proposed it?
Marr
Apr 2013
#54
I acknowledge that. I'm asking what price are people willing to pay to stop it.
patrice
Apr 2013
#42
I've read much nonsense on DU, but that takes the cake. Up is down, wrong is right!!!!
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#50
I asked what PRICE people are willing to pay to stop it. I agree with Sen. Sanders ALL of the time,
patrice
Apr 2013
#43
Upon what do you base this theory that there is some negotiated exchange that ends GOP hostage
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#57
you're right! the elderly and disabled living on low fixed incomes and those who care about them
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2013
#26
So right! It is the duty of the Party member to accept the decisions made by the leader and to
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2013
#29
Mis-characterizing what is said is proof positive that you have other agendas under the table.
patrice
Apr 2013
#47
Your OP is crafted out of mis-characterizations and other rhetorical foolishness
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#53
other agenda's? My only agenda is to defend the Party and the leader. For he who finds fault with
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2013
#60
I dunno. I'm a senior on Social Security and over the years I got addicted to eating
Cleita
Apr 2013
#40
I don't see 1 person saying "It's negotiation, so I will give ________ to stop Chained CPI" ... does
patrice
Apr 2013
#45
Yeah, that's because the Republicans did not ask for it, Obama offered it.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#55
Name your price, All, so we know whom to take seriously and whom to ignore on the NEXT
patrice
Apr 2013
#48
Who is this 'we' you speak for? Or is it merely the humility of the royal 'we'?
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#58