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10. Why does it have to be personal?

Reply to graham4anything (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:17 AM

Apr 2013

It doesn't. Some people, for example,
actually don't want SS diminished.
Imagine that!

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Been Away from Here. Got Apathetic. Then Got Pissed. Had to come back and vent. [View all] Armstead Apr 2013 OP

du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2013 #1

Good rant Blecht Apr 2013 #2

K&R G_j Apr 2013 #3

The public wakes up somewhat to the left -- But the politicians push them back to gthe right Armstead Apr 2013 #5

agreed G_j Apr 2013 #12

G_j, I agree. saidsimplesimon Apr 2013 #104

OMG, this must be the first anti-President Obama post I have read on DU graham4anything Apr 2013 #4

Doy, you are putting such a narrow filter on things Armstead Apr 2013 #6

+1 In three or so years, Obama will be out making hundreds of millions of post-Presidency dollars, merrily Apr 2013 #140

So personalities are more important than policies? Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #9

Whadaya expect? Fuddnik Apr 2013 #11

Why does it have to be personal? G_j Apr 2013 #10

Frustrating, isn't it? BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #15

so, are you implying G_j Apr 2013 #17

Well, nobody could ever possibly have a problem with his policies. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #19

Of course not! Perish the thought! BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #30

+infinity BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #18

If Obama had a white face mhy head would be exploding just as much Armstead Apr 2013 #28

Thanks! BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #29

WTF? G_j Apr 2013 #34

It is "liberal" to treat all people as people -- including criticizing them Armstead Apr 2013 #44

It is a liberal trait to research the FACTS first before criticizing people, but BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #53

I have a die-hard Republican Facebook friend who..... Purrfessor Apr 2013 #68

Disagreement is not necesarily ignorance Armstead Apr 2013 #76

Excellent, excellent post. Number23 Apr 2013 #108

A Democratic President's putting certain things on the table is in itself damaging, and permanently. merrily Apr 2013 #142

Bingo! Armstead Apr 2013 #145

What certain things are you referring to? A new formula to calculate COLA? BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #192

Immediately making up their minds? zeemike Apr 2013 #79

If you step back for a moment BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #85

Bam...you start out with the big lie. zeemike Apr 2013 #91

Bam! And you respond with one of your own. Good goin' there, buddy. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #129

Sounds like you are a DINO to me. zeemike Apr 2013 #151

And it sounds as if you're a faux-Dem to me. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #183

The board of trustees did NOT say SS was in trouble zeemike Apr 2013 #187

I never meant to demean your personal situation. I'm sorry if that's what you took away from my post BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #188

No you demean the personal situation of millions like me. zeemike Apr 2013 #189

I demean the millions in similar circumstances as you?? How do you figure BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #190

Your rationalizations are remarkable. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #109

As is your denial of the facts. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #130

Good grief. So your argument has slid to name calling and rudness. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #149

I give as good as I get. And my patience has run dry. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #193

How do you explain this? HomeboyHombre Apr 2013 #120

They don't explain it, and won't explain it. nt bobduca Apr 2013 #122

+1 nt HomeboyHombre Apr 2013 #124

I just did, Newbie. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #133

Thats the other thing I love about centrists bobduca Apr 2013 #163

That's what I like about DU Newbies . . . BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #179

Easily. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #131

What's pathetic are the content-free HomeboyHombre Apr 2013 #164

If you're a "proud Democrat" BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #178

See my Reply 18 Armstead Apr 2013 #47

Only to those BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #61

I reply to you because.... Armstead Apr 2013 #67

Oh Jesus Fucking Christ. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #48

I expect them to at least do their research before bashing this president BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #56

As long as it's not Alternet, right? Fuddnik Apr 2013 #69

could you please stop accusing people of being racist? G_j Apr 2013 #96

Talk to John Conyers. merrily Apr 2013 #143

Good clip: very appropo. maddiemom Apr 2013 #157

Thank you merrily Apr 2013 #161

This post is HIGHLY unfair. stillwaiting Apr 2013 #49

What's HIGHLY unfair is the unwillingness of so-called Liberals and self-proclaimed Democrats BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #54

That's nice. stillwaiting Apr 2013 #55

You prove, beyond any doubt, BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #58

You are absolutely, 100% ridiculous. stillwaiting Apr 2013 #63

Yeah, well, I promise I won't lose any sleep over your opinion of me. Honest. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #132

You are absolutely, 100% FABULOUS in this thread Number23 Apr 2013 #110

Compromise and negotiations would be a refreshing change Armstead Apr 2013 #113

In what ways has the country been "dragged to the right" in the last 30 years? Number23 Apr 2013 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Armstead Apr 2013 #125

Corporate power, attacks on the social safety net, true minoirity rmploymeny and opportiunities, etc Armstead Apr 2013 #126

I agree with you that the top 10% have grown obscenely wealthy Number23 Apr 2013 #127

History is not a straight line Armstead Apr 2013 #158

"History is not a straight line" Absolutely right. And neither is the present Number23 Apr 2013 #165

The gains that corporations have been at the expense of EVERYONE -- including minorities Armstead Apr 2013 #170

You don't need to satisfy me. I know this country's history Number23 Apr 2013 #171

"Obama has WEAKENED SS because it happens to be true." BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #81

Another fact. stillwaiting Apr 2013 #88

No Congress has ever enacted a Budget, exactly as proposed & given to them by the President BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #98

Right wingers like Bernie Sanders you mean? Armstead Apr 2013 #57

another one who just DOES.NOT.GET.IT Skittles Apr 2013 #107

Only if the shoe fits. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #134

WTF? Skittles Apr 2013 #136

Actually, BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #139

If that is true G_j Apr 2013 #152

they have nothing Skittles Apr 2013 #168

Oh right. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Apr 2013 #185

that's a pretty involved G_j Apr 2013 #186

you're delusional Skittles Apr 2013 #167

I love you, too, Skittles BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #176

So, complaining about DLClinton means we hate Arkansans? Get a grip. merrily Apr 2013 #141

Of course. Racists also don't want SS cut. L0oniX Apr 2013 #65

And most fucking racists don't believe that they are racists BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #84

I'm sorry, but that's a bullshit statement. Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #119

Yep. And most of their arguments would be eaten alive by intellectuals. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #23

Please enlighten me as to "so many falsehoods"? Armstead Apr 2013 #25

If you'd done your research BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #82

First of all regarding Monopolies... Armstead Apr 2013 #89

OK, Maybe it'll go down a little eaiser if we hear it from a black man.... raindaddy Apr 2013 #35

All the President has to do is to stick to Democratic principles to 'catch a break' from Democrats. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #37

Oh wait ...he's trying to work with the GOP who want to cut SS but don't want the blame for it. L0oniX Apr 2013 #72

Ah sabrina . . . how short your memory is. Or is it? BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #182

So rather than take time to refute even one point you opt snagglepuss Apr 2013 #60

It's just another sign of desperation from the worshipers. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #74

It's the only plausible explanation that can be attributed to some DUers here BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #90

I think you should examine whether you belong here when you begin accusing liberals of racism DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #121

Nah. I belong here since I'm SUPPORTING A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT ON A DEMOCRATIC SITE. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #128

So, are you saying we should have different stds. for office holders based on race? lark Apr 2013 #78

No. I'm saying we shouldn't segregate this president BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #87

Very unfortunately, not a lie. lark Apr 2013 #93

well, i'm black noiretextatique Apr 2013 #95

So is Michael Steele. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #181

i am sure you know that's insulting noiretextatique Apr 2013 #191

It doesn't surprise me you didn't see the forest for the trees. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #194

You will of course points us towards posts on DU which... LanternWaste Apr 2013 #159

I've asked for the same G_j Apr 2013 #162

Why waste my time? BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #180

That's what happens when go with shitty DLC policies. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #16

DLC = anti FDR. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #75

Some think they have been had... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #97

And if I have to look at another "Alternet" link, I might just fucking vomit. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #24

That's whats wriong with you-- You are closed off to different perspectives Armstead Apr 2013 #27

Hey here's a clue. Worshipers are not interested in having an open mind. They already have their god L0oniX Apr 2013 #77

That's interesting. Alternet is a well known Liberal site with long established reputation sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #39

If you think Obama can't take the heat... ljm2002 Apr 2013 #50

Don't tell me treestar Apr 2013 #102

you just do NOT.FUCKING.GET.IT. Skittles Apr 2013 #106

Genius Fundraising Ploy! bobduca Apr 2013 #123

Glad to see you are back Autumn Apr 2013 #7

Good to see you back Armstead Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #8

Thanks Armstead Apr 2013 #114

good to see you back hfojvt Apr 2013 #13

People care but they are disillusioned Armstead Apr 2013 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Apr 2013 #70

I didn't support Obama in the 2008 primary for the same reason Warpy Apr 2013 #14

I find myself in agreement with what you say, We can not afford Autumn Apr 2013 #22

Agree on SS. Respectfully disagree on TPP. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #20

I am fine with negotiating about trade -- But not opening the gates to Trojan Horses in the process Armstead Apr 2013 #33

Wow! You Couldn't Have fredamae Apr 2013 #21

Bullshit. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #26

"Slows the rate of growth" while being outstripped by the rising cost of living Armstead Apr 2013 #36

As it's doing now? When was the last time an SS recipient got a cost of living raise? BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #138

If benefits are not kee;ping up now, why make it worse? Armstead Apr 2013 #146

Blah blah blah, just raise the income cap. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #42

Oh, Gawd. Straight from the Heritage Foundation. Cleita Apr 2013 #43

In addition, we still don't even know what products will be used to calculate chained CPI Sheepshank Apr 2013 #46

And not to affect the poorest recipients treestar Apr 2013 #103

Did you really expect things to change in a big way already? marions ghost Apr 2013 #32

I thought we would at least be starting to shift in a better direction Armstead Apr 2013 #40

There are some in congress marions ghost Apr 2013 #51

Hey Armstead. Glad to see you back. Cleita Apr 2013 #38

The "CHANGE" Administration. bvar22 Apr 2013 #41

Welcome back malaise Apr 2013 #45

K&R MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #52

It's not about them anymore, they have shown us who they are Win-the-fight Apr 2013 #59

We're missing enough real political leaders Armstead Apr 2013 #64

the opposition plants our 'leaders', this is not a new tactic Win-the-fight Apr 2013 #100

You won't see the worshippers caring about old people on SS on DU. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #62

You won't see the worshippers caring about people whose jobs have been outsourced either. nt antigop Apr 2013 #83

here is what one of them actually put on DU SwampG8r Apr 2013 #166

Another sick worshiper ...jeeze ...a regular sociopath. I'd ban someone for saying that. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #169

This is a political as well as human and governance debacle Doctor_J Apr 2013 #66

Good to see you back Armstead...your voice was missed. KoKo Apr 2013 #71

thanx Armstead Apr 2013 #80

yep SHRED Apr 2013 #73

Welcome back.. haikugal Apr 2013 #86

Welcome back! CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #92

I come and go I guess -- Some like to see me when I return. Others not so much. Armstead Apr 2013 #94

I think I'm about to take another leave. I have tried using the ignore button but liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #99

Hey Arm... Really Good To See You Again... K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #101

thnx Armstead Apr 2013 #111

Glad to see you here. I've been off DU more than on myself lately. suffragette Apr 2013 #105

Superb rant -- spot on! K&R n/t markpkessinger Apr 2013 #112

How long can this continue?? kentuck Apr 2013 #116

So well said and right on! rainy Apr 2013 #117

It's all perfectly consistent-- HomeboyHombre Apr 2013 #118

We share the same boat. I'm beyond mad too. PinkFloyd Apr 2013 #135

That's pretty much it in a nutshell Armstead Apr 2013 #147

Redundancy grows old. kentuck Apr 2013 #150

Yup...it's like when Obama got elected... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2013 #137

Many share your pain, including "racists" like John Conyers, Tavis Smiley and Cornell West. merrily Apr 2013 #144

I guess we try to support the good ones, encourage mlore good ones and hope for the best Armstead Apr 2013 #148

How would be different from what Democrats have always tried to do? merrily Apr 2013 #160

If at first you don't succeed...etc Armstead Apr 2013 #172

Another saying, used by Obama himself, merrily Apr 2013 #173

Hey, welcome back ProSense Apr 2013 #153

Thank you. I know you missed me. Armstead Apr 2013 #154

Anyone ProSense Apr 2013 #155

Alowing a few more people to be considered poor enlough for medicaid is not a solution Armstead Apr 2013 #156

Amen. woo me with science Apr 2013 #184

No one said expanding Medicaid doesn't help poor people. Cutting Social Security and Medicare merrily Apr 2013 #174

Eject corrupt Republican members of Congress and Senators Cliff Arnebeck Apr 2013 #175