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alarimer

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115. The difference she actively, knowingly did harm to an awful lot of people

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 12:40 PM

Apr 2013

Our leaders, bumbling and ineffective though they may be, almost always improve things for people, even if it is incremental.

Right-wingers will lie and distort her record, but also that of Reagan. They will lie about Clinton and Obama too.

So, anything right-wingers say about Thatcher and even what Obama said is an out-and-out-lie. She was horrible.

We owe nothing to public figures but to speak the truth of what they were, good or bad. If right-wingers have their feelings hurt by the jokes, that's one thing, but let's not hide, even for a minute, the truth about her record and the misery it caused for a lot of people (except the rich, who, of course, made out like bandits).

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Margaret Thatcher is dead [View all] malaise Apr 2013 OP

Rec. The Link Apr 2013 #1

RIP ananda Apr 2013 #2

Yeah this is harsh, but... shenmue Apr 2013 #3

Wish I could rec that malaise Apr 2013 #9

When? April 8, 2013. progressoid Apr 2013 #94

The evil hag will not be missed. mr blur Apr 2013 #4

Here's a great thread malaise Apr 2013 #137

The only regret I have about her death DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #5

My Mom always said, "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." So, FSogol Apr 2013 #6

My mom always said 'speak the truth and speak it ever malaise Apr 2013 #7

LOL. Tell us how you really feel Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #120

Wish I could malaise Apr 2013 #133

Okay for you, but malthaussen Apr 2013 #26

Yes, those were the days amuse bouche Apr 2013 #29

All I know of her is her name. I was born in the late 80s. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #8

Which part of her family? malaise Apr 2013 #12

My knowledge on Thatcher is less than 10%... so maybe there's a non-evil nephew... Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #17

Here's a fitting thread for Thatcher malaise Apr 2013 #20

sorry, the neo-libs are still entrenched on both sides of the pond. KG Apr 2013 #10

I know malaise Apr 2013 #14

Some poignant words from John Lydon come to mind . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #11

Love John Lydon UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #68

. Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #13

Ding Dong, the witch is dead..... rhett o rick Apr 2013 #15

Indeed malaise Apr 2013 #16

Which ol' witch, The WICKED witch!! n/t thatgemguy Apr 2013 #50

That's the one. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #52

Which old witch? The Wicked Witch! backscatter712 Apr 2013 #60

She'll finally get to spend time with her buddy Ronny davidpdx Apr 2013 #18

The Day That Thatcher Dies proud2BlibKansan Apr 2013 #19

Error on the BBC this morning malaise Apr 2013 #21

Bwahahaha a strike! Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #23

Breath-taking irony malaise Apr 2013 #25

You almost have to think it's not even a typo but a Freudian slip. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #38

A union worker malaise Apr 2013 #46

Ha ha, no doubt! mountain grammy Apr 2013 #180

Oh the irony!!! truebrit71 Apr 2013 #64

She inspired a lot of rockers to diss her treestar Apr 2013 #173

Yep. No tears for hateful murderous RWers Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #22

Let the 1% mourn for Thatcher malaise Apr 2013 #24

The Brits are desperately trying to amuse bouche Apr 2013 #27

Now on the front page: "#INSENSITIVE?" backscatter712 Apr 2013 #160

It's so interesting amuse bouche Apr 2013 #168

No tears here either. polly7 Apr 2013 #28

Decorum dictates that we not speak ill of the dead. baldguy Apr 2013 #30

Say something good about the dead....... LongTomH Apr 2013 #128

Good riddance. nt redqueen Apr 2013 #31

I have nothing to say about her. DinahMoeHum Apr 2013 #32

I believe Elvis says it best mulsh Apr 2013 #33

Nice Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #34

Deep malaise Apr 2013 #36

30 years too late.. RR too! mountain grammy Apr 2013 #35

How many illegal wars did she start? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #37

LOL Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #42

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She supported the 2003 Iraq War --your praise of her can't be done without lying CreekDog Apr 2013 #116

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No tears here- Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #39

Here's where Billy Bragg lives today. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #41

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And today, Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #67

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I'm surprised it's not there already. Occulus Apr 2013 #73

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"There is no alternative!" Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #85

That ship sailed years ago. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2013 #76

Well yeah you have a point there Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #80

It's actually kind of amusing. I agree with almost all of President Obama's policies, Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #111

Slamming Billy Bragg whilst supporting Thatcher is quite revealing Nye HangOnKids Apr 2013 #125

DAMN she wasn't bluffing. Now there are 6 star members ignoring me. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #130

you shouldn't have said she didn't start an illegal war when she supported one publicly CreekDog Apr 2013 #150

Well, we're dealing with two variables. PETRUS Apr 2013 #146

Good for Billy Bragg! They_Live Apr 2013 #90

I love looking at houses. Whatcha got on... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #156

And? Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #161

Seems to me he is for a social safety net treestar Apr 2013 #171

Anyone know the reference to Little John treestar Apr 2013 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #40

I'll {mis}quote Clarence Darrow Warpy Apr 2013 #43

Nice post but both countries?? malaise Apr 2013 #44

True that but we were at the epicenter of it here and in the UK Warpy Apr 2013 #53

So dementia and Alzheimer's are 'not a coincidence?' RZM Apr 2013 #48

I guess my Grandma must have been an evil person (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #51

Long observation Warpy Apr 2013 #55

Is there evidence for this? RZM Apr 2013 #62

Then there are those who carefully cultivate it within themselves Occulus Apr 2013 #74

Good riddance to the evil old fascist Prophet 451 Apr 2013 #45

The Iron Lady: Michael White looks back at the life of Margaret Thatcher malaise Apr 2013 #93

on my facebook d_r Apr 2013 #54

About time. russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #56

The Brits sound happy to be rid of her LittleBlue Apr 2013 #57

"I have never killed (anyone), Walk away Apr 2013 #58

If I may, I would like to quote Grumpy Cat, Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #59

There truly is a Grumpy for everything... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #157

LOL!!! Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #158

Sure didn't take long, eh? WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #159

You know, I couldn't care less, actually. catbyte Apr 2013 #61

dance jollyreaper2112 Apr 2013 #63

How about that... santamargarita Apr 2013 #65

It is said that if Berlin Expat Apr 2013 #66

Finally mile18blister Apr 2013 #70

Of the dead, let nothing but good be said. Jester Messiah Apr 2013 #71

I always thought she missed a superb opportunity to be remembered well. Aristus Apr 2013 #72

Nah, she'd still be hated. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2013 #79

I agree. Aristus Apr 2013 #81

"This next song is dedicated to the Tory Party and all the shit they're getting us into" Kolesar Apr 2013 #77

She is not going to be remembered well. caseymoz Apr 2013 #78

Is it necessary for people to speak this badly about someone who's just died? TimberValley Apr 2013 #82

Whatever n/t malaise Apr 2013 #87

I had nothing good to day about her when she was alive. Why should that change just because she died truebrit71 Apr 2013 #88

Here? Yes. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #89

Not just anyone who's just died. A rightwing shit head who died. Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #92

It's not necessary Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #102

Thank you. Was wondering if anyone else had felt the same way. TimberValley Apr 2013 #104

The difference she actively, knowingly did harm to an awful lot of people alarimer Apr 2013 #115

All of that might be true Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #117

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Yeah but nobody will bother determining that Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #139

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But how does her death improve your life? Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #141

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We'll celebrate together when Cheney goes Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #143

+1,000 malaise Apr 2013 #167

You mean like the way they were so respectful about Ted Kennedy? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #144

Exactly. The right-wingers have been there, done that. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #149

Ehhh, who gives a crap what the rightwing nuts say about our people? Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #129

I had nothing good to say about her when she was alive. Apophis Apr 2013 #107

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Never mind. sibelian Apr 2013 #138

When it's a monster like Thatcher? YES Prophet 451 Apr 2013 #183

BBC - "Thatcher Stands By Pinochet" - 26 March 1999 hatrack Apr 2013 #83

I don't plan to forget that malaise Apr 2013 #91

Couldn't have happened to a more worthy person. Fearless Apr 2013 #84

I say absolutely nothing good or bad, just saying nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #86

Having a little Hell party with Franco, Mussolini, Pinochet, Ronnie and the rest of the rotten bunch Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #95

and that Austrian guy who died in 1945 also nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #97

I am not shedding many tears duffyduff Apr 2013 #96

I thought she died many years ago slackmaster Apr 2013 #98

That was just her soul and humanity n/t Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #100

I remember people singing "Ding-Dong The Witch Is Dead!" slackmaster Apr 2013 #101

A horrible, stupid woman... joeybee12 Apr 2013 #99

I can think of many negative adjectives to describe her, but stupid isn't one of them. slackmaster Apr 2013 #121

Dumb enough to buy into free market shit... joeybee12 Apr 2013 #122

Good. RetroLounge Apr 2013 #103

well this gives them an opportunity to have some posts outside the gungeon CreekDog Apr 2013 #176

sort of... RetroLounge Apr 2013 #186

Haha. As my day to day lampost, I will use Madame Thatcher Catherina Apr 2013 #105

What a fair, fair tribute Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #109

I think so too! I'm saving them lol n/t Catherina Apr 2013 #124

Will Pitt Posted a link to 21 songs MagTheWarHog inspired HangOnKids Apr 2013 #132

I just found a song by The Exploited, but if I posted it or its lyrics here, I'd get PPR'd. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #163

No tears from me either. Apophis Apr 2013 #106

De mortuis nil nisi bonum KamaAina Apr 2013 #108

I'm with Moms Mabley on this alarimer Apr 2013 #110

This was created a few months ago: muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #112

Wow!! malaise Apr 2013 #119

The woman who single-handedly ruined the "if women ruled the world, things would be different" line. Marr Apr 2013 #114

Good spot malaise Apr 2013 #134

Frankie Boyle's tweets on Thatcher's death... backscatter712 Apr 2013 #118

I miss Spitting Image's satire of Thatcher. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #123

Too good malaise Apr 2013 #135

Just to be sure: Put a wooden stake through her heart, backscatter712 Apr 2013 #126

What heart? [nt] Jester Messiah Apr 2013 #164

Look for the shriveled, blackened part in the chest cavity - it's so small you can barely see it. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #165

I recently learned my ex was dead. Now there are two fewer assholes in the world. nt valerief Apr 2013 #127

Your ex was probably a saint compared with this woman malaise Apr 2013 #148

Yes, but only because he wasn't given the chance to make millions of people valerief Apr 2013 #182

good Marrah_G Apr 2013 #131

Most British newspapers have turned off the comments section malaise Apr 2013 #147

Well that sucks! Scootaloo Apr 2013 #151

Just dance malaise Apr 2013 #152

... Scootaloo Apr 2013 #153

Neo-FASCIST NWO. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #154

In her world Mandela was a terrorist and Pinochet was a freedom fighter. pa28 Apr 2013 #155

Her legacy is of public division, private selfishness and a cult of greed malaise Apr 2013 #162

wow thought she died years ago nt Islandurp Apr 2013 #166

Well she's had amuse bouche Apr 2013 #169

All hail Leslie Bricusse! blogslut Apr 2013 #170

Ugh. NWO. Rex Apr 2013 #174

She's now in a special place, meeting the people she admired in life. ocpagu Apr 2013 #175

I see malaise Apr 2013 #181

Abe Vigoda is NOT dead. nt madinmaryland Apr 2013 #177

He's the Schr�dinger's Cat of entertainment! n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #178

Here, you'll need these. Deep13 Apr 2013 #179

Don't forget the crucifix and garlic! n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #185

The amateur is dead... Orsino Apr 2013 #184