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Douglas Carpenter

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60. other agenda's? My only agenda is to defend the Party and the leader. For he who finds fault with

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:52 PM

Apr 2013

leader - finds fault with the Party and he who finds fault with the Party finds fault with the People - For the Party is the vanguard of the proletariat and the leader is the organized voice of the party which is the organized voice of the masses. The people must speak freely and the reactionaries must be silenced. In this case the one schooled in the science of the dialectic clearly recognizes that if the organized will of people - the Party guided by the organized voice of the Party - the leader - has made a decision to reduce benefits - It is the People guided by their vanguard and the Party lead by the voice of the masses - the leader - who have decided to reduce benefits. Those who oppose this decisions of the people as defined by the vanguard the proletariat through the voice of the leader can only be described as enemies of the people. I congratulate you for your excellent post.

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I would like to hear your ideas on why my REPUBLICAN Senators oppose Chained CPI. [View all] patrice Apr 2013 OP

I'm going to hazard a guess that you're not reliant on SSI? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #1

Because a lot of seniors vote for them. nt octoberlib Apr 2013 #2

^ This loyalsister Apr 2013 #51

Summarized: "I guess you'd rather have President Palin". Marr Apr 2013 #3

To make it easier for well to do dems abelenkpe Apr 2013 #4

Obama wants it. That's plenty reason for Republicans to reject it. Kablooie Apr 2013 #5

He also tied it to tax hikes and loophole closures for the wealthy. GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #30

Who gives a rat's ass why they rejected it? magellan Apr 2013 #6

Lawyers never ask a question that they don't already know the answer to. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #37

That's all well and good magellan Apr 2013 #62

Fickle bunch nt lillypaddle Apr 2013 #7

Wait! Do I have this right? Bonobo Apr 2013 #8

By joe, I think you've got it! caseymoz Apr 2013 #11

That does seem to be the gist of the OP JHB Apr 2013 #18

It's so surreal it's like they're doing some kind of mind control experiment. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #21

Wabbit season! Duck season! Wabbit season! Duck season! Chef Eric Apr 2013 #22

Elmer Season! n2doc Apr 2013 #31

Exactwee. nt Chef Eric Apr 2013 #49

Politics trumps self-interest.. Junkdrawer Apr 2013 #23

No, you don't have it. I'm asking you what price you are willing to pay to stop Chained CPI. patrice Apr 2013 #32

I remember the same argument about same sex marriage and gay rights. Bonobo Apr 2013 #33

How about this -- Leave SS benefits alone for now and... Armstead Apr 2013 #35

Because it's highly unpopular among seniors of both parties (the most likely voters in 2014)? eridani Apr 2013 #9

Can we have the actual names of these Senators? eridani Apr 2013 #63

Damage the Democratic agenda? caseymoz Apr 2013 #10

Anything Obama is for, they're against. eShirl Apr 2013 #12

" including things like the Progressive Caucus budget" UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #13

Are you saying the Progressive Caucus budget proposed chained CPI for SS increases? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #14

No, I'm not saying that about the Progressive budget. I'm asking people what price they're patrice Apr 2013 #34

The problem is that Obama has been pushing for chained CPI more than Republicans muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #46

It appears that for some of you it is a cult thing. aandegoons Apr 2013 #15

"need to be"? Not even I am saying people should be anti-NEED, so yours is a divide and conquer patrice Apr 2013 #38

Absurd. Marr Apr 2013 #52

I am so sick and tired of the Obamapoligists trying to justify every thing this president does bowens43 Apr 2013 #16

So say now what price you are willing to pay to stop CPI, so that when that price comes due you patrice Apr 2013 #44

Wait-- I thought this was an offer they would never, ever accept, and that's why he proposed it? Marr Apr 2013 #54

For the same reason Pelosi nixed it Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #17

I acknowledge that. I'm asking what price are people willing to pay to stop it. patrice Apr 2013 #42

I've read much nonsense on DU, but that takes the cake. Up is down, wrong is right!!!! Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #50

Uh, politics. And guess what my pro-women, pro-LGBT, pro-environment cali Apr 2013 #19

I asked what PRICE people are willing to pay to stop it. I agree with Sen. Sanders ALL of the time, patrice Apr 2013 #43

Upon what do you base this theory that there is some negotiated exchange that ends GOP hostage Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #57

Chained CPI increases taxes. bornskeptic Apr 2013 #20

You're right customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #28

It is not the chained CPI that they oppose quaker bill Apr 2013 #24

That's a nice succinct answer. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #36

Because even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then. alarimer Apr 2013 #25

you're right! the elderly and disabled living on low fixed incomes and those who care about them Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #26

Agree. Trashing Obama and other Dems doesn't do us a lot of good. Hoyt Apr 2013 #27

So right! It is the duty of the Party member to accept the decisions made by the leader and to Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #29

LMAO n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #41

Mis-characterizing what is said is proof positive that you have other agendas under the table. patrice Apr 2013 #47

Your OP is crafted out of mis-characterizations and other rhetorical foolishness Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #53

Well said. /nt Marr Apr 2013 #56

other agenda's? My only agenda is to defend the Party and the leader. For he who finds fault with Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #60

Serious, non partisan answer nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #39

I dunno. I'm a senior on Social Security and over the years I got addicted to eating Cleita Apr 2013 #40

I don't see 1 person saying "It's negotiation, so I will give ________ to stop Chained CPI" ... does patrice Apr 2013 #45

Yeah, that's because the Republicans did not ask for it, Obama offered it. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #55

Name your price, All, so we know whom to take seriously and whom to ignore on the NEXT patrice Apr 2013 #48

Who is this 'we' you speak for? Or is it merely the humility of the royal 'we'? Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #58

I don't want to throw my state's Democratic Party Platform under the bus suffragette Apr 2013 #59

because the President suggested it. they will do NOTHING he suggests. period. never. ever. spanone Apr 2013 #61