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onpatrol98

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Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:18 PM

Apr 2013

No, I'm serious. I really do think about what people say. During our earlier conversation, I was sitting here wondering. I don't give Dr. Krugman a pass. Am I giving a Hillary Clinton a pass? Have I given up on getting a candidate that truly identifies with the issues that concern me. The free trade agreements, just keep on coming. I do think we were initially sold a bad bill of goods. Am I part of the problem? Quite possibly. I want to think about that. If we ever put our foot down, can the American people tell our politicians, we've had enough. Either make trade agreements that help our middle class or stop making these agreements. I don't want to be an isolationist. But, not everyone is going to be a part of the service industry. Not everyone is going to be a state or federal employee. Manufacturing played a large part in the growing of our middle class. We gave it away, way before automation started to decimate it.

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Why I Wouldn't Vote for Hillary if She Ran in 2016... [View all] KoKo Apr 2013 OP

Yes indeed. I was so angry when she cast that vote... DURHAM D Apr 2013 #1

so, when it suits them DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #4

During the 2008 primary DURHAM D Apr 2013 #5

I remember that well. joshcryer Apr 2013 #8

I'll go with my own instincts UTUSN Apr 2013 #2

Of COURSE, if she is the nominee I will vote for her (any Dem) n/t UTUSN Apr 2013 #3

I think that only applies during "Election Season" here on DU... KoKo Apr 2013 #6

Since the thread has popped back to p. 1, I want to clarify UTUSN Apr 2013 #65

K&R woo me with science Apr 2013 #7

Vote for the Republican then. Beacool Apr 2013 #9

Whirlpool has been busy sending jobs to Mexico Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #44

Hey, don't confuse people with facts now! nt antigop Apr 2013 #56

Stop that, posting facts when the campaign for 2016 has already begun. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #61

I would love to see a real "take-no-shit" progressive president Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #63

I second that! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #64

Will Hillary Defend The 99% - Probably Not - Enough Said cantbeserious Apr 2013 #10

She's already sold out American workers...no, she won't defend the 99%. nt antigop Apr 2013 #23

If she decides to run and is our nominee Good luck finding another discussion board to drown your William769 Apr 2013 #11

It's almost four years from now. Who knows what could happen... KoKo Apr 2013 #13

This I agree with, I was responding to your OP William769 Apr 2013 #14

Now we're blaming women for choices their husbands make? JaneyVee Apr 2013 #12

Why dont you present your argument instead of asking questions? nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #15

Huh? What argument, I'm asking a question. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #17

LOL. Nice try. That's a Fox technique. Insinuation via question. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #18

I have absolutely no idea WTF you're talking about. Your posts are bizarre. Cheer up. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #30

your response to the OP was " Now we're blaming women for choices their husbands make?" rhett o rick Apr 2013 #33

Why do I have to present an argument in defense of her? I'm asking a question! JaneyVee Apr 2013 #37

But your question insinuates that the OP is blaming Sen Clinton for what her husband did. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #39

The OP is implying that he wouldn't vote for Hillary because of a law her husband signed. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #40

I hope you mean in the Primary. An if so, who's your alternative who Will run. nt onehandle Apr 2013 #16

No...I would not vote for her in the Primary...and I was answering KoKo Apr 2013 #29

Hillary sold out the American worker -- she touts the "advantages" of outsourcing US jobs antigop Apr 2013 #19

Free Trade...Well, then save some ire for Paul Krugman onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #36

The OP isn't about Krugman -- it's about DLC Hillary. Krugman didn't co-found the Senate India antigop Apr 2013 #41

I know the OP wasn't about Krugman. onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #43

My post was about outsourcing of US jobs...which Hillary touted the "advantages " of last year antigop Apr 2013 #49

Our free trade agreements sent jobs overseas... onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #53

This isn't about Krugman...it's about DLC Hillary. The OP mentioned why he/she would not support antigop Apr 2013 #55

Distraction, "hey look at Krugman." The question is, do you support Sec Clinton's rhett o rick Apr 2013 #45

I think free trade has been instrumental in bringing down our economy. onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #47

I hear you. My feeling is that we should be looking high and low and rhett o rick Apr 2013 #48

Well, you may be right, rhett. You just might be right. onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #54

Wait..... rhett o rick Apr 2013 #57

LOL... onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #60

Yes, it's a distraction and there HAVE been politicians who have railed against "free trade" nt antigop Apr 2013 #50

I WILL vote for Hillary in 2016. SylviaD Apr 2013 #20

lol...she hasn't announced...Add "1" to the "inevitability" meme counter. nt antigop Apr 2013 #22

Hillary sold out the tech community by supporting an increase in the h1-b visa limit antigop Apr 2013 #21

I voted for Hilary in 2008. MelungeonWoman Apr 2013 #24

Biden hasn't announced either! Should we start a Biden meme counter, too? nt antigop Apr 2013 #25

Feel free. MelungeonWoman Apr 2013 #28

Think back to the primary with Obama. peace13 Apr 2013 #26

Before falling in love with Hillary, jerseyjack Apr 2013 #27

I can't find anything RudynJack Apr 2013 #59

I said before that I would never vote again for a DLC-tainted, New Dem, Third Way, or Blue Dog again Fuddnik Apr 2013 #31

Someone none of us have heard of, will be running for President in 2016. RC Apr 2013 #32

omg...I hope we here, and the country will have learned better KoKo Apr 2013 #35

Sec Clinton has always represented the 1%. That's why I hope she doesnt win rhett o rick Apr 2013 #34

Bookmarked. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #38

It's a little early for definitive statements about 2016, isn't it? nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #42

THE RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH MattBaggins Apr 2013 #46

LOL! JoePhilly Apr 2013 #51

Biggest reason I won't vote for Hillary in a Democratic primary ... Martin Eden Apr 2013 #52

In all honesty, we need to purge the neo-libs from the DNC Taverner Apr 2013 #58

Clinton: wrong on trade, financial markets, DOMA, and wellfare... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #62

Who are you voting for in 2014? She's certainly not on *that* ballot. nt Hekate Apr 2013 #66

I'm not encouraged by the Clintons, nor their progeny... MrMickeysMom Apr 2013 #67