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In reply to the discussion: Been Away from Here. Got Apathetic. Then Got Pissed. Had to come back and vent. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)155. Anyone
I haven't time right now to redo it, but in a nutshell....The real problem is that the public needs and has expressed basic support for liberal/progressive answers to the horrendous concentration of wealth and power that has developed. They want help for the poor and the struggling middle class. But the politicians ignore it, continue to support and engage in Crony Capitalism and corruption and into phony debates about the need for "austerity" while continuing to allow the wealthy and powerful to plunder and loot..
1) I know Obama has done some good things, and he is 1,000 percent better than a republican. But after what looked like a good start, he has reverted to his old tricks of starting out negotiations from the position republicans want, throwing us some bones and essentially keeping the same old shit in place and allowing it to get worse.
2)This is much bigger than Obama. He is a symptom. ..I expect that from Republicans. But when too many Democrats continue to engage in a combination of cowardice and/or corruption and cozy up to the same interests...I get disgusted and angry.
1) I know Obama has done some good things, and he is 1,000 percent better than a republican. But after what looked like a good start, he has reverted to his old tricks of starting out negotiations from the position republicans want, throwing us some bones and essentially keeping the same old shit in place and allowing it to get worse.
2)This is much bigger than Obama. He is a symptom. ..I expect that from Republicans. But when too many Democrats continue to engage in a combination of cowardice and/or corruption and cozy up to the same interests...I get disgusted and angry.
...who doesn't see the biggest expansion of Medicaid since it was implemented as helping the poor isn't thinking clearly.
President Obama actually did something to address the inequality, raising taxes on the top one percent (higher than the Clinton rate with the health care tax included) and increasing capital gains to its highest level since the mid 90s. The total effect is significant.
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Perhaps the best prism through which to see the Democrats gains is inequality. In the 2008 campaign, Mr. Obama said that his top priority as president would be to create bottom-up economic growth and reduce inequality...In the 2009 stimulus, he insisted on making tax credits fully refundable, so that even people who did not make enough to pay much federal tax would benefit. The 2010 health care law overhaul was probably the biggest attack on inequality since it began rising in the 1970s, increasing taxes on businesses and the rich to pay for health insurance largely for the middle class.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/us/politics/for-obama-fiscal-deal-is-a-victory-that-also-holds-risks.html
Perhaps the best prism through which to see the Democrats gains is inequality. In the 2008 campaign, Mr. Obama said that his top priority as president would be to create bottom-up economic growth and reduce inequality...In the 2009 stimulus, he insisted on making tax credits fully refundable, so that even people who did not make enough to pay much federal tax would benefit. The 2010 health care law overhaul was probably the biggest attack on inequality since it began rising in the 1970s, increasing taxes on businesses and the rich to pay for health insurance largely for the middle class.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/us/politics/for-obama-fiscal-deal-is-a-victory-that-also-holds-risks.html
The biggest progressive gripe about the legislation is that Mr. Obama extracted less revenue from the affluent than expected about $600 billion versus $800 billion over the next decade. In perspective, however, this isnt that big a deal. Put it this way: A reasonable estimate is that gross domestic product over the next 10 years will be around $200 trillion. So if the revenue take had matched expectations, it would still have amounted to only 0.4 percent of G.D.P.; as it turned out, this was reduced to 0.3 percent. Either way, it wouldnt make much difference in the fights over revenue versus spending still to come.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/04/opinion/kurgman-battles-of-the-budget.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/04/opinion/kurgman-battles-of-the-budget.html
That also doesn't take the additional health care tax into account.
Krugman: Obama and Redistribution
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022224304
HHS finalizes rule guaranteeing 100 percent funding for new Medicaid beneficiaries
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022584523
Who Benefits from the ACA Medicaid Expansion?
A key element of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) is the expansion of Medicaid to nearly all individuals with incomes up to 138 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) ($15,415 for an individual; $26,344 for a family of three in 2012) in 2014. Medicaid currently provides health coverage for over 60 million individuals, including 1 in 4 children, but low parent eligibility levels and restrictions in eligibility for other adults mean that many low income individuals remain uninsured. The ACA expands coverage by setting a national Medicaid eligibility floor for nearly all groups. By 2016, Medicaid, along with the Childrens Health Insurance Program (CHIP), will cover an additional 17 million individuals, mostly low-income adults, leading to a significant reduction in the number of uninsured people.
Medicaid does not cover many low-income adults today. To qualify for Medicaid prior to health reform, individuals had to meet financial eligibility criteria and belong to one of the following specific groups: children, parents, pregnant women, people with severe disability, and seniors. Non-disabled adults without dependent children were generally excluded from Medicaid unless the state obtained a waiver to cover them. The federal government sets minimum eligibility levels for each category, which are up to 133% FPL for pregnant women and children but are much lower for parents (under 50% FPL in most states). States have the option to expand coverage to higher incomes, but Medicaid eligibility levels for adults remain very limited (Figure 1). Seventeen states limit Medicaid coverage to parents earning less than 50 percent of poverty ($9,545 for a family of 3), and only eight states provide full Medicaid coverage to other low-income adults. State-by state Medicaid eligibility levels for parents and other adults are available here.

The ACA expands Medicaid to a national floor of 138% of poverty ($15,415 for an individual; $26,344 for a family of three). The threshold is 133% FPL, but 5% of an individuals income is disregarded, effectively raising the limit to 138% FPL. The expansion of coverage will make many low-income adults newly eligible for Medicaid and reduce the current variation in eligibility levels across states. To preserve the current base of coverage, states must also maintain minimum eligibility levels in place as of March 2010, when the law was signed. This requirement remains in effect until 2014 for adults and 2019 for children. Under the ACA, states also have the option to expand coverage early to low-income adults prior to 2014. To date, eight states (CA, CT, CO, DC, MN, MO, NJ and WA) have taken up this option to extend Medicaid to adults. Nearly all of these states previously provided solely state- or county-funded coverage to some low-income adults. By moving these adults to Medicaid and obtaining federal financing, these states were able to maintain and, in some cases, expand coverage. Together these early expansions covered over half a million adults as of April 2012.
Eligibility requirements for the elderly and persons with disabilities do not change under reform although some individuals with disabilities may become newly eligible under the adult expansion. Lawfully residing immigrants will be eligible for the Medicaid expansion, although many will continue to be subject to a five-year waiting period before they may enroll in coverage. States have the option to eliminate this five-year waiting period for children and pregnant women but not for other adults. Undocumented immigrants will remain ineligible for Medicaid.
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http://www.kff.org/medicaid/quicktake_aca_medicaid.cfm
A key element of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) is the expansion of Medicaid to nearly all individuals with incomes up to 138 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) ($15,415 for an individual; $26,344 for a family of three in 2012) in 2014. Medicaid currently provides health coverage for over 60 million individuals, including 1 in 4 children, but low parent eligibility levels and restrictions in eligibility for other adults mean that many low income individuals remain uninsured. The ACA expands coverage by setting a national Medicaid eligibility floor for nearly all groups. By 2016, Medicaid, along with the Childrens Health Insurance Program (CHIP), will cover an additional 17 million individuals, mostly low-income adults, leading to a significant reduction in the number of uninsured people.
Medicaid does not cover many low-income adults today. To qualify for Medicaid prior to health reform, individuals had to meet financial eligibility criteria and belong to one of the following specific groups: children, parents, pregnant women, people with severe disability, and seniors. Non-disabled adults without dependent children were generally excluded from Medicaid unless the state obtained a waiver to cover them. The federal government sets minimum eligibility levels for each category, which are up to 133% FPL for pregnant women and children but are much lower for parents (under 50% FPL in most states). States have the option to expand coverage to higher incomes, but Medicaid eligibility levels for adults remain very limited (Figure 1). Seventeen states limit Medicaid coverage to parents earning less than 50 percent of poverty ($9,545 for a family of 3), and only eight states provide full Medicaid coverage to other low-income adults. State-by state Medicaid eligibility levels for parents and other adults are available here.

The ACA expands Medicaid to a national floor of 138% of poverty ($15,415 for an individual; $26,344 for a family of three). The threshold is 133% FPL, but 5% of an individuals income is disregarded, effectively raising the limit to 138% FPL. The expansion of coverage will make many low-income adults newly eligible for Medicaid and reduce the current variation in eligibility levels across states. To preserve the current base of coverage, states must also maintain minimum eligibility levels in place as of March 2010, when the law was signed. This requirement remains in effect until 2014 for adults and 2019 for children. Under the ACA, states also have the option to expand coverage early to low-income adults prior to 2014. To date, eight states (CA, CT, CO, DC, MN, MO, NJ and WA) have taken up this option to extend Medicaid to adults. Nearly all of these states previously provided solely state- or county-funded coverage to some low-income adults. By moving these adults to Medicaid and obtaining federal financing, these states were able to maintain and, in some cases, expand coverage. Together these early expansions covered over half a million adults as of April 2012.
Eligibility requirements for the elderly and persons with disabilities do not change under reform although some individuals with disabilities may become newly eligible under the adult expansion. Lawfully residing immigrants will be eligible for the Medicaid expansion, although many will continue to be subject to a five-year waiting period before they may enroll in coverage. States have the option to eliminate this five-year waiting period for children and pregnant women but not for other adults. Undocumented immigrants will remain ineligible for Medicaid.
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http://www.kff.org/medicaid/quicktake_aca_medicaid.cfm
16 million: number of Americans who become eligible for Medicaid under the health care law
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002531684
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Been Away from Here. Got Apathetic. Then Got Pissed. Had to come back and vent. [View all]
Armstead
Apr 2013
OP
The public wakes up somewhat to the left -- But the politicians push them back to gthe right
Armstead
Apr 2013
#5
+1 In three or so years, Obama will be out making hundreds of millions of post-Presidency dollars,
merrily
Apr 2013
#140
It is a liberal trait to research the FACTS first before criticizing people, but
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#53
A Democratic President's putting certain things on the table is in itself damaging, and permanently.
merrily
Apr 2013
#142
What certain things are you referring to? A new formula to calculate COLA?
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#192
I never meant to demean your personal situation. I'm sorry if that's what you took away from my post
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#188
What's HIGHLY unfair is the unwillingness of so-called Liberals and self-proclaimed Democrats
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#54
Yeah, well, I promise I won't lose any sleep over your opinion of me. Honest.
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#132
In what ways has the country been "dragged to the right" in the last 30 years?
Number23
Apr 2013
#115
Corporate power, attacks on the social safety net, true minoirity rmploymeny and opportiunities, etc
Armstead
Apr 2013
#126
"History is not a straight line" Absolutely right. And neither is the present
Number23
Apr 2013
#165
The gains that corporations have been at the expense of EVERYONE -- including minorities
Armstead
Apr 2013
#170
No Congress has ever enacted a Budget, exactly as proposed & given to them by the President
BumRushDaShow
Apr 2013
#98
Yep. And most of their arguments would be eaten alive by intellectuals.
Comrade_McKenzie
Apr 2013
#23
All the President has to do is to stick to Democratic principles to 'catch a break' from Democrats.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#37
Oh wait ...he's trying to work with the GOP who want to cut SS but don't want the blame for it.
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#72
It's the only plausible explanation that can be attributed to some DUers here
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#90
I think you should examine whether you belong here when you begin accusing liberals of racism
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2013
#121
Nah. I belong here since I'm SUPPORTING A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT ON A DEMOCRATIC SITE.
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#128
So, are you saying we should have different stds. for office holders based on race?
lark
Apr 2013
#78
And if I have to look at another "Alternet" link, I might just fucking vomit.
Comrade_McKenzie
Apr 2013
#24
Hey here's a clue. Worshipers are not interested in having an open mind. They already have their god
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#77
That's interesting. Alternet is a well known Liberal site with long established reputation
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#39
I am fine with negotiating about trade -- But not opening the gates to Trojan Horses in the process
Armstead
Apr 2013
#33
"Slows the rate of growth" while being outstripped by the rising cost of living
Armstead
Apr 2013
#36
As it's doing now? When was the last time an SS recipient got a cost of living raise?
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#138
In addition, we still don't even know what products will be used to calculate chained CPI
Sheepshank
Apr 2013
#46
You won't see the worshippers caring about people whose jobs have been outsourced either. nt
antigop
Apr 2013
#83
Another sick worshiper ...jeeze ...a regular sociopath. I'd ban someone for saying that. n/t
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#169
I come and go I guess -- Some like to see me when I return. Others not so much.
Armstead
Apr 2013
#94
I think I'm about to take another leave. I have tried using the ignore button but
liberal_at_heart
Apr 2013
#99
Many share your pain, including "racists" like John Conyers, Tavis Smiley and Cornell West.
merrily
Apr 2013
#144
I guess we try to support the good ones, encourage mlore good ones and hope for the best
Armstead
Apr 2013
#148
Alowing a few more people to be considered poor enlough for medicaid is not a solution
Armstead
Apr 2013
#156