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79. Manage to do what? Obtain it? For sure. Grow it? Unlikely.

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #78)

Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:22 PM

Apr 2013

Come on, millions of teens are growing their own cannabis? Really? What data supports that assertion?

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Colorado considers huge legal weed tax [View all] DonViejo Apr 2013 OP

The people have spoken, the politicians don't like it, so they pull this kind of sh*t. marmar Apr 2013 #1

Wait, hang on. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #3

The trick is to keep taxes low enough to put the black market out of business Warpy Apr 2013 #30

It almost doesn't matter how it's priced Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #33

Which is why we have such a huge issue with moonshine in this country? EOTE Apr 2013 #36

False comparison Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #40

Are you under the impression that weed is cheap and easy to grow? EOTE Apr 2013 #44

It would seem that Dreamer Tatum is not a cannabis grower or user and has little to no real-world cleanhippie Apr 2013 #52

People hear "weed" and that it grows like a weed so they think that it's simple. EOTE Apr 2013 #56

Outdoor growing does not make growing sinsemilla nearly impossible. Webster Green Apr 2013 #73

The problem isn't always your own pollen, but pollen from other sources. EOTE Apr 2013 #75

Agreed. Webster Green Apr 2013 #81

Excellent! But you demonstrate why not everyone can/will do that. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #80

"Acquire seeds and grow them in or outdoors. " cleanhippie Apr 2013 #50

Oh brother Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #51

Thank you for demonstrating that you really have no idea what it takes to grow cannabis. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #53

Yes, Mexican brick weed just grows. EOTE Apr 2013 #54

I bet my backyard weed would be in higher demand than your rotgut. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #58

Bullshit. EOTE Apr 2013 #63

You missed the point. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #64

Wow, YOU missed the point yet again. It's getting tiring pointing out how clueless you are. EOTE Apr 2013 #69

The black market will thrive forever unless weed is free. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #76

Just like the booming booze and cigarette black market. EOTE Apr 2013 #93

Both of those are hard to make. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #97

You know nothing of making any of them. EOTE Apr 2013 #98

Yeah...the people who import weed now have NO idea what they're doing Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #99

People are not going to be smoking ditch weed when the good stuff isn't much more. EOTE Apr 2013 #102

Whatever, dude Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #104

You've made a really convincing case, dude. EOTE Apr 2013 #111

ridiculous. robinlynne Apr 2013 #107

I'll bet your "backyard weed" that you just "put it in the ground and water" produces nothing. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #66

I bet not. Anyone can grow roses but it takes skills and talent to grow roses people want to buy.... TeamPooka Apr 2013 #100

We shouldn't overstate either the ease or the difficulty of growing good weed. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #92

wow haydukelives Apr 2013 #108

Some of the above remarks are somewhat on the mark. Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #112

Correction Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #113

So what you're saying is that you throw some seeds in the ground and wait? EOTE Apr 2013 #117

So wrong. Nobody uses seeds for an indoor grow. Webster Green Apr 2013 #115

Why isn't that true for alcohol? tabasco Apr 2013 #83

Because alcohol is nearly impossible to make (even though it can be made in a jail cell). EOTE Apr 2013 #119

right. robinlynne Apr 2013 #106

I spoke, and I voted in favor, but I don't really have a problem with the high tax. denverbill Apr 2013 #5

MMJ in California costs about the same as what you would buy off the street.. frylock Apr 2013 #38

My preference would be that it is taxed at a level which makes street selling unprofitable. denverbill Apr 2013 #47

"But it should be at a high enough level to discourage use. " Why? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #55

Alcohol and even more-so tobacco are already taxed to discourage use. denverbill Apr 2013 #65

"Alcohol, in moderation, doesn't hurt anyone any more than pot, in moderation." Yes, it does. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #67

I was one of the people who voted to legalize it. I helped remove the threat of legal trouble. denverbill Apr 2013 #70

As was I. But I DO think we should encourage people to take mind-altering substances... cleanhippie Apr 2013 #71

no surprise. same with cigarettes & beer. obama's putting yet another tax on cigarettes to fund HiPointDem Apr 2013 #94

prostitute politicians doing what's needed to keep the illegal market booming despite legalization n msongs Apr 2013 #2

Should be the same as tobacco and alcohol taxes. bluedigger Apr 2013 #4

I disagree. Alcohol and tobacco do a huge amount of harm to the health and lives kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #8

+1,000 Scuba Apr 2013 #14

Seeing as how it's been illegal until now, I don't think you can make that assumption. randome Apr 2013 #15

There's been mass pot smoking in this country for nearly a half-century now. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #16

Don't know. randome Apr 2013 #17

"Keeping it illegal means many fewer people are partaking." Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #21

Interesting points. randome Apr 2013 #23

Some of those studies were comparative, not just the Netherlands. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #27

The CDC states that lung cancer has been significantly decreasing over the past decade. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #82

Vaporizing is just as fast as smoking Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #35

I smoke very little cannabis. Most of what I ingest is either kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #114

Gee, one might get the impression that one criminal enterprise Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #6

On the plus side, once the state is hooked on revenue they will never overturn the law. JVS Apr 2013 #7

Did people really think that pot would be tax exempt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #9

no, just not taxed to the point of usury. TeamPooka Apr 2013 #101

Wasn't "You can tax it" one of the pro arguments? alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #10

Until it was legalized, anyway. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #11

For liberals, yes. For libertarians and pot lifestylists, notsomuch. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #13

I guess I do immediately discount anything a libertarian has to say alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #46

Absolutely. And it's a good one, provided the taxes aren't too onerous. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #18

Yes, it was, and still is. But placing a tax on it that drives the price above that of the black cleanhippie Apr 2013 #57

I predict legalization will be such a kerfuffle that within 5 years, it will be illegal once more. randome Apr 2013 #12

I'll come to Denver and let you buy me a bud at the pot store in April 2018. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #19

I'll put it on my calendar! randome Apr 2013 #24

And this is before the fed/state issue is resolved Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #37

Grow your own? madville Apr 2013 #20

Tax evasion is how newblewtoo Apr 2013 #39

Making beer and wine is easy madville Apr 2013 #42

No, its not. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #62

Without your qualifier it's not Major Nikon Apr 2013 #74

I disagree. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #77

Millions of teenagers manage to do it Major Nikon Apr 2013 #78

Manage to do what? Obtain it? For sure. Grow it? Unlikely. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #79

What makes you think they aren't? Major Nikon Apr 2013 #86

The lack of data to support that assertion and my experience as a teen. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #87

How long ago were you a teen? Major Nikon Apr 2013 #88

Longer than that, hahaha! But I do work with teens and Mrs. Cleanhippie is a teacher. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #89

Growing quality cannabis to achieve a useable yield is just not that simple. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #60

So much for states rights lame54 Apr 2013 #22

It is very possible that the 40% tax won't be as bank breaking as people assume Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #25

an oz still costs you about $400 at a dispensary in california frylock Apr 2013 #41

A dispensary operates under different rules than stores do Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #43

It's interesting to contrast this against the desires to further reduce corporate taxation. Trillo Apr 2013 #26

Now that is a good question Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #28

They are going to have to find the point RainDog Apr 2013 #29

Grow your own. Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #31

Well, Newest Reality Apr 2013 #32

My pro-legalization argument has never been about revenue. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #34

Uh no. 15% is too much. Tender to the Bone Apr 2013 #45

just let us grow our own bigtree Apr 2013 #48

Wait until the corporations move in. randome Apr 2013 #59

In a way, that makes pot a valued commodity to the state bhikkhu Apr 2013 #49

HA HA HA CalFresh Apr 2013 #61

If it is legal, there is no reason to test for it to get a job. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #68

It's not legal CalFresh Apr 2013 #85

Many say medical marijuana is legal in California but talk to some of these green for victory Apr 2013 #91

indeed marcusc81 Apr 2013 #95

$2/lb needs a decent tax One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #72

Oh bullshit, MadHound Apr 2013 #84

May I assume that you have NOT actually grown any cannabis yourself? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #90

LOL! MadHound Apr 2013 #110

Fair enough. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #116

unfair? why? taxes are something like 90% of the cost of a pack of cigarettes, why should HiPointDem Apr 2013 #96

What a bunch of crap. So damn greedy. nt babylonsister Apr 2013 #103

Tobacco tax is well over 100%, and sales are doing fine. robinlynne Apr 2013 #105

If it is legal, I am 100% OK with this. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #109

What is the going price for marijuana/ fadedrose Apr 2013 #118