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Bohunk68

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112. Some of the above remarks are somewhat on the mark.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 07:49 PM
Apr 2013

I offer you this. I began growing my own back in the late 70's. I grew outdoors and grew very good quality weed and got very good yields. I also have a degree in Horticulture. Here's what you do. Start your seed indoors right around New Years. Use Florescent lights, full spectrum, down close to the seedlings. By the end of February you have plantlets that are sizeable enough to take cuttings. After rooting, which takes up to 10 days. Put them under a 12 hour light. You have been using an 18 hour light on the other plants. Within a few weeks, the male cuttings will show up. You can then destroy the original male plants, leaving you with nothing but female plants. While you now budding plants are growing their buds, the original plants, still under 18 hour lighting, have grown sufficiently so that you can start taking cuttings off you now proven females. By the middle of April, you can now sample those first cuttings that you took which are nicely budded. Rate them. Now, you are continuing to 18 hour you now proven "mothers" and can continue cuttings until it is safe to put them outside under natural light. Meanwhile, if you wish, you can continue the cutting process if you want to have an indoor grow and keep the very best mothers over into the next year.
Keep your outdoor girls going until at least the "hard frost". If you should happen to have a green house, put them inside for a longer bud flowering period, the buds just get better and better. Usually, here in Upstate NY, I found that I could keep them going until Halloween. I used to harvest pounds, not ounces. It took care of my taxes and our own habits. I stopped in 2003 because I got turned in by an asshole who rolled over on me. The cop investigating shared with me that he had known about my growing for several years and indeed had a friend who shared with him some of my product. He hadn't bothered me, cause I kept to myself about it and didn't grow huge amounts. The only reason I got busted was because they had to investigate complaints. At the time, I had 15 girls that were doing very well and would've yielded me about 11 pounds of sensemilla. Since then, I have not grown because to do so would have endangered my home and acreage. Costs were very minimal. I estimated at the time, that not counting my time which I had anyway, each ounce cost about $14. And, it was NOT ditch weed. I only sold to three persons and they took it from there, one of whom marketed it in NYC and always had a demand.

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The people have spoken, the politicians don't like it, so they pull this kind of sh*t. marmar Apr 2013 #1
Wait, hang on. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #3
The trick is to keep taxes low enough to put the black market out of business Warpy Apr 2013 #30
It almost doesn't matter how it's priced Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #33
Which is why we have such a huge issue with moonshine in this country? EOTE Apr 2013 #36
False comparison Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #40
Are you under the impression that weed is cheap and easy to grow? EOTE Apr 2013 #44
It would seem that Dreamer Tatum is not a cannabis grower or user and has little to no real-world cleanhippie Apr 2013 #52
People hear "weed" and that it grows like a weed so they think that it's simple. EOTE Apr 2013 #56
Outdoor growing does not make growing sinsemilla nearly impossible. Webster Green Apr 2013 #73
The problem isn't always your own pollen, but pollen from other sources. EOTE Apr 2013 #75
Agreed. Webster Green Apr 2013 #81
Excellent! But you demonstrate why not everyone can/will do that. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #80
"Acquire seeds and grow them in or outdoors. " cleanhippie Apr 2013 #50
Oh brother Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #51
Thank you for demonstrating that you really have no idea what it takes to grow cannabis. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #53
Yes, Mexican brick weed just grows. EOTE Apr 2013 #54
I bet my backyard weed would be in higher demand than your rotgut. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #58
Bullshit. EOTE Apr 2013 #63
You missed the point. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #64
Wow, YOU missed the point yet again. It's getting tiring pointing out how clueless you are. EOTE Apr 2013 #69
The black market will thrive forever unless weed is free. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #76
Just like the booming booze and cigarette black market. EOTE Apr 2013 #93
Both of those are hard to make. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #97
You know nothing of making any of them. EOTE Apr 2013 #98
Yeah...the people who import weed now have NO idea what they're doing Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #99
People are not going to be smoking ditch weed when the good stuff isn't much more. EOTE Apr 2013 #102
Whatever, dude Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #104
You've made a really convincing case, dude. EOTE Apr 2013 #111
ridiculous. robinlynne Apr 2013 #107
I'll bet your "backyard weed" that you just "put it in the ground and water" produces nothing. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #66
I bet not. Anyone can grow roses but it takes skills and talent to grow roses people want to buy.... TeamPooka Apr 2013 #100
We shouldn't overstate either the ease or the difficulty of growing good weed. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #92
wow haydukelives Apr 2013 #108
Some of the above remarks are somewhat on the mark. Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #112
Correction Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #113
So what you're saying is that you throw some seeds in the ground and wait? EOTE Apr 2013 #117
So wrong. Nobody uses seeds for an indoor grow. Webster Green Apr 2013 #115
Why isn't that true for alcohol? tabasco Apr 2013 #83
Because alcohol is nearly impossible to make (even though it can be made in a jail cell). EOTE Apr 2013 #119
right. robinlynne Apr 2013 #106
I spoke, and I voted in favor, but I don't really have a problem with the high tax. denverbill Apr 2013 #5
MMJ in California costs about the same as what you would buy off the street.. frylock Apr 2013 #38
My preference would be that it is taxed at a level which makes street selling unprofitable. denverbill Apr 2013 #47
"But it should be at a high enough level to discourage use. " Why? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #55
Alcohol and even more-so tobacco are already taxed to discourage use. denverbill Apr 2013 #65
"Alcohol, in moderation, doesn't hurt anyone any more than pot, in moderation." Yes, it does. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #67
I was one of the people who voted to legalize it. I helped remove the threat of legal trouble. denverbill Apr 2013 #70
As was I. But I DO think we should encourage people to take mind-altering substances... cleanhippie Apr 2013 #71
no surprise. same with cigarettes & beer. obama's putting yet another tax on cigarettes to fund HiPointDem Apr 2013 #94
prostitute politicians doing what's needed to keep the illegal market booming despite legalization n msongs Apr 2013 #2
Should be the same as tobacco and alcohol taxes. bluedigger Apr 2013 #4
I disagree. Alcohol and tobacco do a huge amount of harm to the health and lives kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #8
+1,000 Scuba Apr 2013 #14
Seeing as how it's been illegal until now, I don't think you can make that assumption. randome Apr 2013 #15
There's been mass pot smoking in this country for nearly a half-century now. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #16
Don't know. randome Apr 2013 #17
"Keeping it illegal means many fewer people are partaking." Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #21
Interesting points. randome Apr 2013 #23
Some of those studies were comparative, not just the Netherlands. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #27
The CDC states that lung cancer has been significantly decreasing over the past decade. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #82
Vaporizing is just as fast as smoking Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #35
I smoke very little cannabis. Most of what I ingest is either kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #114
Gee, one might get the impression that one criminal enterprise Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #6
On the plus side, once the state is hooked on revenue they will never overturn the law. JVS Apr 2013 #7
Did people really think that pot would be tax exempt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #9
no, just not taxed to the point of usury. TeamPooka Apr 2013 #101
Wasn't "You can tax it" one of the pro arguments? alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #10
Until it was legalized, anyway. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #11
For liberals, yes. For libertarians and pot lifestylists, notsomuch. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #13
I guess I do immediately discount anything a libertarian has to say alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #46
Absolutely. And it's a good one, provided the taxes aren't too onerous. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #18
Yes, it was, and still is. But placing a tax on it that drives the price above that of the black cleanhippie Apr 2013 #57
I predict legalization will be such a kerfuffle that within 5 years, it will be illegal once more. randome Apr 2013 #12
I'll come to Denver and let you buy me a bud at the pot store in April 2018. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #19
I'll put it on my calendar! randome Apr 2013 #24
And this is before the fed/state issue is resolved Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #37
Grow your own? madville Apr 2013 #20
Tax evasion is how newblewtoo Apr 2013 #39
Making beer and wine is easy madville Apr 2013 #42
No, its not. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #62
Without your qualifier it's not Major Nikon Apr 2013 #74
I disagree. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #77
Millions of teenagers manage to do it Major Nikon Apr 2013 #78
Manage to do what? Obtain it? For sure. Grow it? Unlikely. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #79
What makes you think they aren't? Major Nikon Apr 2013 #86
The lack of data to support that assertion and my experience as a teen. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #87
How long ago were you a teen? Major Nikon Apr 2013 #88
Longer than that, hahaha! But I do work with teens and Mrs. Cleanhippie is a teacher. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #89
Growing quality cannabis to achieve a useable yield is just not that simple. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #60
So much for states rights lame54 Apr 2013 #22
It is very possible that the 40% tax won't be as bank breaking as people assume Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #25
an oz still costs you about $400 at a dispensary in california frylock Apr 2013 #41
A dispensary operates under different rules than stores do Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #43
It's interesting to contrast this against the desires to further reduce corporate taxation. Trillo Apr 2013 #26
Now that is a good question Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #28
They are going to have to find the point RainDog Apr 2013 #29
Grow your own. Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #31
Well, Newest Reality Apr 2013 #32
My pro-legalization argument has never been about revenue. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #34
Uh no. 15% is too much. Tender to the Bone Apr 2013 #45
just let us grow our own bigtree Apr 2013 #48
Wait until the corporations move in. randome Apr 2013 #59
In a way, that makes pot a valued commodity to the state bhikkhu Apr 2013 #49
HA HA HA CalFresh Apr 2013 #61
If it is legal, there is no reason to test for it to get a job. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #68
It's not legal CalFresh Apr 2013 #85
Many say medical marijuana is legal in California but talk to some of these green for victory Apr 2013 #91
indeed marcusc81 Apr 2013 #95
$2/lb needs a decent tax One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #72
Oh bullshit, MadHound Apr 2013 #84
May I assume that you have NOT actually grown any cannabis yourself? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #90
LOL! MadHound Apr 2013 #110
Fair enough. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #116
unfair? why? taxes are something like 90% of the cost of a pack of cigarettes, why should HiPointDem Apr 2013 #96
What a bunch of crap. So damn greedy. nt babylonsister Apr 2013 #103
Tobacco tax is well over 100%, and sales are doing fine. robinlynne Apr 2013 #105
If it is legal, I am 100% OK with this. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #109
What is the going price for marijuana/ fadedrose Apr 2013 #118
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