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In reply to the discussion: For the Ideologue Left, Social Security Concern Trolling is a Racket [View all]WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)148. Crap Blog Code for "whiny libruls who sat out 2010."
Interestingly, moderates and independents loved him in 2008, but 2010? Not so much.
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The voters who showed up in 2010 were far different from those who showed up in 2008 or even in the last congressional midterm election in 2006. They were much older, whiter, and more conservative.
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Moderates supported Democrats but by a 55 percent to 42 percent margin, significantly less than Democratic margins among this group in 2008 (61 percent to 37 percent) and 2006 (60 percent to 38 percent). Yet the 2010 margin among moderates is very similar to that attained by congressional Democrats in elections prior to 2006 going back into the 1990s.
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Independents. There was a sharp swing among independents toward the Republicans in 2010. The GOP carried this group by 19 points, 56 percent to 37 percent. That compares to an 8-point Democratic win among independents in 2008 and an 18-point advantage in 2006. This is by far the GOPs best performance among this group since 1994, when they carried them by 14 points. Of course, it is possible that a substantial part of 2010s shift is due to a higher turnout of conservative independents relative to moderate and liberal independents, but we lack data at this point to evaluate this possibility.
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/general/report/2010/11/04/8648/election-results-fueled-by-jobs-crisis-and-voter-apathy-among-progressives/
The voters who showed up in 2010 were far different from those who showed up in 2008 or even in the last congressional midterm election in 2006. They were much older, whiter, and more conservative.
....
Moderates supported Democrats but by a 55 percent to 42 percent margin, significantly less than Democratic margins among this group in 2008 (61 percent to 37 percent) and 2006 (60 percent to 38 percent). Yet the 2010 margin among moderates is very similar to that attained by congressional Democrats in elections prior to 2006 going back into the 1990s.
....
Independents. There was a sharp swing among independents toward the Republicans in 2010. The GOP carried this group by 19 points, 56 percent to 37 percent. That compares to an 8-point Democratic win among independents in 2008 and an 18-point advantage in 2006. This is by far the GOPs best performance among this group since 1994, when they carried them by 14 points. Of course, it is possible that a substantial part of 2010s shift is due to a higher turnout of conservative independents relative to moderate and liberal independents, but we lack data at this point to evaluate this possibility.
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/general/report/2010/11/04/8648/election-results-fueled-by-jobs-crisis-and-voter-apathy-among-progressives/
Why? Jobs, the economy, and fears of Granny being offed by Death Panels. This *ain't* rocket science.
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For the Ideologue Left, Social Security Concern Trolling is a Racket [View all]
madamesilverspurs
Apr 2013
OP
It's like booing the umpire if he makes a bad call in favor of the other team
Art_from_Ark
Apr 2013
#152
I recall it always being a bad thing, but the percentage of people here who believe it just keeps
GreenPartyVoter
Apr 2013
#128
If SSI had something to do with the deficit or debt, I'd agree. But it doesn't.
neverforget
Apr 2013
#11
Once I realized who they are I was not at all surprised by the tone of the article. They are a
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#37
What's a "Centrist"? It must mean someone who doesn't want to be a traditional FDR Democrat.
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#49
k, so, Universal Pre-K vs. No Chained CPI - which would you give up in order to get the other? nt
patrice
Apr 2013
#104
He CAN'T go to the mat, when significant demographics are CONSTANTLY abandoning
patrice
Apr 2013
#144
You *ain't* missing much. And if you're searching for enlightenment...
WorseBeforeBetter
Apr 2013
#20
I am. It was started by bunch of nasty disrupters who were mostly banned from Liberal sites, for
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#38
That's a good question, 'from where is it originating. They sure stand out on other boards, mostly
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#79
So there are even fewer of them than I thought. Lol, I thought they were two different people with
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#84
Meant to add that the little circle of malcontents on that blog consists of not only those banned
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#85
aaah, another anonymous "blog" source with familiar writing style and word usage!
boilerbabe
Apr 2013
#24
Just as credible as sites like Alternet or Commondreams that's cited here ad nauseam. nt
Comrade_McKenzie
Apr 2013
#53
Not all "Democrats" claim to be "progressive". Have you the same empathy for others when....
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2013
#42
I am a firm believer in respect for other members and the need for respect between members even when
Arcanetrance
Apr 2013
#43
The Democratic Party includes "progressives", but if they less than a quarter of the country,
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2013
#52
So you believe everyone around here is precisely what they claim to be - AND - that they share the
patrice
Apr 2013
#106
Ah, that is Deaniac's blog. A bunch of disgruntled, mostly banned from liberal sites, Third Wayers
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#34
Yes, they do. They were celebrating eg, the 'coining of the word poutrage' attributed to a member
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#89
Forgive me for doubting that the left is the big beneficiary of eroding the social safety net.
JVS
Apr 2013
#41
Forgive me for doubting that what calls itself "the Left" IS the Left; ask them what OTHER issue
patrice
Apr 2013
#108
REC!!!! You can be sure that "the movement" is always gonna be in a completely different place.....
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2013
#46
Excellent article. The fringe of our party are a group of low-information reactonaries...
Comrade_McKenzie
Apr 2013
#50
That gang on that blog are the fringe of our party. They eventually got kicked off every democratic
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#80
You are brave, BRAVE woman for posting this at the height of the froth and hysteria
Number23
Apr 2013
#69
projection abounds in that crowd, re "ideological" and "out of touch with reality"
carolinayellowdog
Apr 2013
#129
The blog is populated by well known trolls on liberal blogs. They have been around
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#81
Why would you post this hateful, poisonous, divisive right-wing garbage here?
cthulu2016
Apr 2013
#91
To sew hatred, to poison discourse and to drive a wedge between "centrist" and "liberals"
bobduca
Apr 2013
#142
I don't understand why it upsets you so much. If you're right & there's nothing to worry about,
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#100
"the President is focusing on savings from providers and drug companies" I KEEP SAYING THAT!!!!!!!11
Hekate
Apr 2013
#102
Ask them what OTHER issue group they are willing to throw under the bus, madamesilverspurs, in order
patrice
Apr 2013
#112
"Ideologue Left". I remember when they used to call us Reds, Commies, Pinkos or Hippies.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2013
#117
Please stop insulting our intelligence. Census Bureau "poverty" has FUCKALL to do with real poverty
eridani
Apr 2013
#120
AARP disagrees with this and says it targets the poorest and those who live the longest get less...
midnight
Apr 2013
#122
The practical difference between "taxing", "cutting", and "means testing" is nil
Recursion
Apr 2013
#138
That's a lot of empty name-calling in one piece. Trolls, Ideologues, "racket?"
DirkGently
Apr 2013
#146
Not that I have doubts about science but..."boost benefits at age 85". Really?
Safetykitten
Apr 2013
#149