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joshcryer

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112. Wrong, the turnout was not much different from any other "off years."

Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:33 AM

Apr 2013

In 2010 the base did not get out the vote. The math holds up. You blame it on minorities "not knowing the difference." I blame it on the progressive / activist base not getting out the vote and not caring. Instead of spending valuable time campaigning, they slept in, they didn't give a fuck. How I know this is I lived in Colorado at the time and we managed to still win. I myself was personally responsible for a good 10% of the vote that kept our Democrats in power, and we can see that Colorado is doing quite well, Democratically speaking, as opposed to other states. In retrospect I feel my GOTV effort was even larger than it was then, since it led to a continuation of power. Now, more than ever, I believe we can effect change through GOTV efforts. The demographics of the US are changing, it's only a matter of time.

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Someone didn't get the lesson in 2010 [View all] Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 OP

There you have it... haikugal Apr 2013 #1

Maybe he got the wrong lesson. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #2

A lot of Democratic members of Congress have some tough decisions to make Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #7

Yes, Tom, they do. madfloridian Apr 2013 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author PinkFloyd Apr 2013 #87

Holder better get busy on voting restrictions that the RepubliCONs are xtraxritical Apr 2013 #13

Yes! gateley Apr 2013 #27

Aided and abetted 100% by any criticism of the President. The old Nader strategy to divide graham4anything Apr 2013 #38

Jesus Flying Squirrel Apr 2013 #40

Like roadside litter, an eyesore that adds nothing to the landscape Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #54

~lol CrispyQ Apr 2013 #95

This OP was an observation about how things tend to play out... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #43

Cause and Effect-person NOT for the democratic candidate EFFECT-votes the repub.in graham4anything Apr 2013 #48

I am not talking about protests, why are you? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #53

In hindsight, every fracture put the republicans in office. INCLUDING 1968 graham4anything Apr 2013 #55

Do you think I am advocating not fighting for Democrats in elections? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #56

The way the primaries were done then most likely HHH would have been the nominee, not Bobby graham4anything Apr 2013 #57

I will agree to disagree with you on this one, respectfully Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #58

Smoked filled rooms taught a lesson. Those days are gone in the Democratic party graham4anything Apr 2013 #61

But the Republicans suffer their own fractures. They are fracturing right now. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #90

If Mary Landrieu were running in 2016, it would be easy for her. 2014 it will be very hard. graham4anything Apr 2013 #91

Ok, but if we take the threat of, for instance, staying home in droves off the table AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #92

Getting rid of the 4 Draconian governors is reward enough, don't you think? graham4anything Apr 2013 #102

Put a clothes pin on and vote for the democratic candidate... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #97

Sadly, I think there may be some real truth to this. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #78

I am pretty tolerant of the slow pace forward progress sometimes takes Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #83

"Any dissent is a vote for the republicans". sulphurdunn Apr 2013 #84

Use Mr. Spock logic and raw statistical analysis. Any way you look at it, my statement is true. graham4anything Apr 2013 #85

Mr. Spock would probably say 'That statement is not mathematically sound'. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #89

With that attitude Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #103

President Obama forever. The other stuff is just soundbytes. graham4anything Apr 2013 #110

You forgot the sarcasm tag. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #114

I've heard this browbeating speech before. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #88

"I need to work harder to convince Democrats they have to accept entitlement cuts" FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #76

THoise who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it Armstead Apr 2013 #3

Of course, some people are slower than others. Some are really slow to catch on. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #4

THEY KNOW Skittles Apr 2013 #6

You just need to inform yourself ... slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #10

one guy got upset because I used CAPS!!!! Skittles Apr 2013 #18

I see that other thread got locked for whining .... slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #25

+1 Denver Progressive Apr 2013 #15

Some will never catch 840high Apr 2013 #17

I think he's doing exactly what he's always wanted to do. He just no longer has to pretend forestpath Apr 2013 #5

I think there is a lot of truth to this Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #9

He also promised to: bvar22 Apr 2013 #8

Promises Made - Promises Not Kept - The Legacy Of Barack Obama cantbeserious Apr 2013 #11

The mid term elections are NOT referendums on the President nakocal Apr 2013 #12

Bury that false meme. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #14

Absolutely, Progressives did NOT sit out the election Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #23

+ 1 million. It was the casual voters who thought their lives might improve who stayed home eridani Apr 2013 #41

Partly, but it was disenchanted progressives to a larger extent. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #80

That is pure garbage eridani Apr 2013 #108

Some truth to that, but that goes for my statement as well. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #117

another + a million from me suffragette Apr 2013 #59

No, unfortunately, that's not entirely true. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #79

All kinds of people sit out elections for all kinds of reasons. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #86

Tom, this is definitely true to a point, but my problem is..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #100

I understand, but now is not the moment for worring about winning future elections Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #113

I certainly hope so. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #116

No, really we lost the independents all the song and dance is supposed to appeal to TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #96

Personally, I always thought cutting SS was a bad idea. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #99

Incorrect, the turnout is pretty unambigious. joshcryer Apr 2013 #45

100% fake meme graham4anything Apr 2013 #50

Wrong, the turnout was not much different from any other "off years." joshcryer Apr 2013 #112

Amazing! Three and a half (almost) months after second term begins juajen Apr 2013 #34

Do you think this OP boils down to "tearing Obama down every chance I get"? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #44

Hillary as 45 instead of 44 makes Hillary able to achieve more of what was started graham4anything Apr 2013 #49

When you are lecturing us that "The mid term elections ... are a chance for you to make the house AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #35

People that didn't show up to vote in 2010 are getting what they deserve. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #16

still on the pony meme? Skittles Apr 2013 #19

I voted. tblue Apr 2013 #24

Me, too. gateley Apr 2013 #28

I was hoping you didn't mean the evil shit you said over the weekend Union Scribe Apr 2013 #32

I personally am more concerned about why any democrat would want ANY guns/bullets graham4anything Apr 2013 #52

Good on that! Haha! Stick it to'em! Ohhhhhh, wait.... JHB Apr 2013 #47

Yeah, it's history repeating itself, already.... ReRe Apr 2013 #20

Well, you are not going to get an even more Republican House/Senate in 2014. treestar Apr 2013 #22

Sorry but you have a misguided fight IMHO, this is not about R vs D ... slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #30

The 1% just doesn't want to keep their end of the deal. octoberlib Apr 2013 #39

The problem with your philosophy is you pretend the Republicans don' t have the house treestar Apr 2013 #68

Still blaming 2010 on DU liberals Union Scribe Apr 2013 #33

They wanted that credit treestar Apr 2013 #69

It's not nearly as jarring as it was last time around tavalon Apr 2013 #26

Triangulators and true believers have learned nothing. 99Forever Apr 2013 #29

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #31

And doesn't really give a sh!t in 2013. Phlem Apr 2013 #36

k&R Great post MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #37

And don't forget how the Repukes posed as defenders of Medicare in 2010 eridani Apr 2013 #42

It helps them that the left credits them for not taking Obama's deal. joshcryer Apr 2013 #46

Utterly trivial. What Repubs are really saying to Dems supporting chained CPI is eridani Apr 2013 #104

You and I both know they wouldn't have accepted Obama's offer as presented. joshcryer Apr 2013 #105

Irrelevant. What is relevant is that Obama has handed them a club to beat Dems over the head with eridani Apr 2013 #106

I don't disagree. joshcryer Apr 2013 #107

When I remember what happened to Santorum in 2006, I'm far from demoralized eridani Apr 2013 #109

Absolutely. joshcryer Apr 2013 #111

du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2013 #51

K&R suffragette Apr 2013 #60

The optics and politics look awful FlyByNight Apr 2013 #62

The administration obviously wanted to lose the majority BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #63

++++++++++ Flying Squirrel Apr 2013 #64

*facepalm*. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #82

See post 78 BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #93

May I ask what your point is? n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #98

Or perhaps... 99Forever Apr 2013 #65

Lieberman made him do it! BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #66

"health care reform" hrmm am I the only one who remembers "universal health care"? L0oniX Apr 2013 #67

That was projection.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #72

Call me crazy, but staying home in 2014 won't hurt the president fried eggs Apr 2013 #70

I sure as hell am not urging anyone to stay home and not vote in 2014, but... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #71

Crazy? Not just crazy, but downright foolish. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #81

we need to get past the whole two party charade datasuspect Apr 2013 #119

K&R pam4water Apr 2013 #73

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #74

But, but . . the only Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #75

I didn't need it :) n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #77

How do your senators fair on the liberal scale? CrispyQ Apr 2013 #94

As I recall Nite Owl Apr 2013 #101

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So many lessons unlearned. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #118