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pipoman

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59. I agree..

Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:18 AM

Apr 2013

we tested them so we had an idea how they would react if they did find a gun that potentially was loaded..

I believe shooting the guns in their presence when they were 3 or 4...of coarse they had hearing protection on, but even so, once they heard how loud they were, they wanted nothing to do with them..when they were 6 or 7 they began showing an interest again so this time we took .22 rifle and a smaller caliber handgun to the range and shot some. At that age they liked shooting the .22, but the crack of the 9mm combined with the recoil resulted in them wanting nothing to do with handguns. At 10 or 12 we began shooting shotguns...we live in one of the top bird hunting states in the country...we set up a trap shooting area on our farm and they liked shooting trap. At 14 they wanted to go deer hunting so we practiced with rifles and went deer hunting..When not in use guns were locked up and they never tried (as far as I know) getting into them. They knew that any time they asked we would go target shoot or hunting. Now in their 20's they don't keep guns in their homes, but still like to shoot when they come home. One of them joined the Marine Corps 5 years ago and earned his PFC stripe in basic training because of qualifying expert repeatedly on their range.

We have always been very careful. As a recreational activity, I don't believe shooting sports are any more dangerous than about any other recreational physical activity.

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Quite aside from the debate on gun control, what the fuck is wrong with people [View all] cali Apr 2013 OP

Every one an avoidable tragedy pipoman Apr 2013 #1

They believe that they're not like everyone else. Thye're the rare *good* gun owners. baldguy Apr 2013 #2

Since more than 30,000 die in auto accidents then as a group they are irresponsible. former9thward Apr 2013 #9

You seek logic? pipoman Apr 2013 #13

Where's the National Drivers Association* to campaign against seat belts, licenses & speed limits? baldguy Apr 2013 #17

False statements are false too. former9thward Apr 2013 #18

The NRA sets the agenda - and you follow them right along to promote their propaganda. baldguy Apr 2013 #19

You are an auto driver. former9thward Apr 2013 #20

I don't think that horse is going to take you any further. baldguy Apr 2013 #28

"NRA sets the agenda" and the poster follows "to promote their propaganda." Important, if true. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #26

You don't think the NRA sets the agenda? baldguy Apr 2013 #29

NRA needs to step up and, for all those reponsible gun owners, do the responsible thing Hoyt Apr 2013 #53

If you hadn't already established a reputation for bashing the NRA (of which I am not a member), AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #54

All the NRA is doing is contributing heavily to those who support their gun agenda Hoyt Apr 2013 #55

Everybody always thinks THEY'RE the exception. nt raccoon Apr 2013 #64

People don't secure their guns because they are not nearly as "responsible" as they tell us. Hoyt Apr 2013 #3

LOL...you guys... pipoman Apr 2013 #14

Guess you forgot all the other shootings by so-called law-abiding/responsible gun cultists. Hoyt Apr 2013 #15

Why not give us those numbers, eh? pipoman Apr 2013 #21

Why waste time, you and your buddies have indicated you'll carry/accumulate guns no matter what. Hoyt Apr 2013 #22

You're right, it is a waste of time. Maybe because the data isn't there. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #23

Question, If Eleanor Roosevelt supposedly carried Bushmaster.223, would Eleanor223 be your username? Hoyt Apr 2013 #24

Uuum, the poetic ring sounds a little junky by comparison... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #63

Why don't you point to where pipoman Apr 2013 #27

I am more worried about cans of beans Riftaxe Apr 2013 #30

Maybe if the parents were charged HockeyMom Apr 2013 #4

Serious jail time mainstreetonce Apr 2013 #5

I would agree pipoman Apr 2013 #10

Complacency kills sarisataka Apr 2013 #6

We took our kids shooting regularly pipoman Apr 2013 #50

I believe in removing the mystique sarisataka Apr 2013 #56

I agree.. pipoman Apr 2013 #59

I would like to see a Democrat propose a bill... kentuck Apr 2013 #7

Wouldn't it make sense then pipoman Apr 2013 #11

Sure you can do a background check, go to your local gun store. Simple. Hoyt Apr 2013 #31

They are not required to do them.. pipoman Apr 2013 #32

Tell them it is "responsible" thing to do, and you won't come back if they Hoyt Apr 2013 #33

You really don't want to find a solution pipoman Apr 2013 #35

Gave you a simple solution. What is problem with it and why don't gun cultists step up? Hoyt Apr 2013 #36

Oh it's a simple solution alright..simple it is.. pipoman Apr 2013 #37

You don't really care about ensuring a safe transfer, do you? Hoyt Apr 2013 #39

lol pipoman Apr 2013 #40

Step up, or admit you don't care as long as you walk away with fist full of cash. Hoyt Apr 2013 #41

You don't know me or what you're talking about.. pipoman Apr 2013 #42

Your using data base would be invasion of privacy, no accountability, sloppy record keeping, etc. Hoyt Apr 2013 #44

That is exactly what I said above... pipoman Apr 2013 #48

You said you do not have a way to do background check, I said you do - go to FFL. Hoyt Apr 2013 #49

Yes, and I said FFLs are not required to do private sale background checks pipoman Apr 2013 #51

And I said if FFL refuses, have all the gunners tell the store they ain't coming back Hoyt Apr 2013 #52

Or we could simply require them to do it.. pipoman Apr 2013 #60

Why sit on one's ass until the law is passed. You can force them to do it, assuming they won't. Hoyt Apr 2013 #62

"Police are deciding whether to charge anyone..." Recursion Apr 2013 #8

Not as good though, pipoman Apr 2013 #12

Three factors: 1. Basic stupidity. 2. Lack of training. 3. A false sense that their children... slackmaster Apr 2013 #16

As a gun owner, I consider proper security to be intrinsic to that ownership. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #25

Admirable. Hoyt Apr 2013 #34

Unfortunately, not a new story. CBHagman Apr 2013 #38

I suppose it depends on your definition of appalling.. pipoman Apr 2013 #47

Deaths. CBHagman Apr 2013 #57

You stated the accidental child death rate from guns is "appalling" pipoman Apr 2013 #58

In a country of 310 million people, some people will screw up. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #43

like playing with their gun. Hoyt Apr 2013 #45

In a nation of 310 million people, some will do that. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #46

17,000 children injured annually Crepuscular Apr 2013 #61