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AngryAmish

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33. It is perfectly understandable under AA's theory of mind

Reply to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:58 AM

Apr 2013

I've cobbled this together over the years and added a vigorous dash of confirmation bias but here goes...

It is in our nature to love leaders. We are social animals - we need to be lead.

However, when our leaders fail us we are extremely hard on them. THis makes sense because back when we lived in trees a bad leader could get everyone eaten by hyenas.

(yes seabeyond, I realize I'm baiting you)

Celebrity culture and politics are really the same thing. We are choosing or bonding with leaders. We idealize them. Then the celebrities/politicians fail us. We either accept it or we really, really hate them. Lohan has failed us and the revenge is merciless. She has lost the Mandate of Heaven and must be expelled.

Along those same lines look at Anthony Weiner. I think he has no place in public life. Others disagree. But those who hate him really, really hate him. It is very closely correlated with how people feel about Lindsay Lohan.

(for the record I don't think she belongs in jail. I forgive her, not Weiner. Such is the mystery of our brains))

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I'm not sure if people hate Lindsey Lohan for being an addict or [View all] R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 OP

we are becoming a very ugly people and internet allows us to excel at it. she had such a future a seabeyond Apr 2013 #1

Nah, we just like to mock and parody our celebrities.. snooper2 Apr 2013 #30

yes. this mentality. put them out there for mocking, to make us feel so much better about ourself seabeyond Apr 2013 #31

yeah, well, not really, feel better? Yes comedy does that... snooper2 Apr 2013 #37

I have empathy her for addictions, but it's still OK to criticize her for epic bad behavior. slackmaster Apr 2013 #2

Why do you hate America? Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #3

Does anyone hate her? Let alone hate her for being an addict? cali Apr 2013 #4

I dont think it is personal. earthside Apr 2013 #5

Denial is not a river in Egypt. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #6

This. Plus she has the resources to get the BEST help in the world, Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #63

I have empathy for her. She is a child of divorce and has had zero privacy since a child. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #7

I don't hate her leftynyc Apr 2013 #8

Considering that treatment is so poor in this country get the red out Apr 2013 #9

I don't know much about her at all Whisp Apr 2013 #10

that's not why she gets piled on. She gets piled on for hit and run accidents cali Apr 2013 #19

+1000 Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #38

People hate most what they struggle against in themselves bhikkhu Apr 2013 #11

A Buddhist saying chervilant Apr 2013 #27

yes, but where on DU has there been hate expressed for her? cali Apr 2013 #42

Call it what you will. chervilant Apr 2013 #45

so criticism is "negative feelings"? cali Apr 2013 #46

Rude, derisive, and condescending... chervilant Apr 2013 #59

You may not like this but cali Apr 2013 #61

Bwahahahahaha!!! chervilant Apr 2013 #65

What a horribly Judgemental thing to say n/t emulatorloo Apr 2013 #69

what? gone to the dark side? filled with negativity? cali Apr 2013 #73

Nor you, cali ... n/t chervilant Apr 2013 #75

It's her privilege ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #12

I don't hate her...I feel sorry for her, but she's frustrating... joeybee12 Apr 2013 #13

I'm not sure why anyone would care... TreasonousBastard Apr 2013 #14

she has had every opportunity to get out from under that disease justabob Apr 2013 #15

I think people resent how she is treated versus how poor and minority addicts are treated. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #16

We have a winner!!!! monmouth3 Apr 2013 #21

+1 hrmjustin Apr 2013 #26

Exactly. That is how I feel. blueamy66 Apr 2013 #39

Damn Skippy! nt MrScorpio May 2013 #79

I pity her Lurks Often Apr 2013 #17

I don't hate her, I hate seeing talent wasted naturallyselected Apr 2013 #18

Yep. GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #49

She's getting the same kind of criticism that anyone would that had as many Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #20

I'm kind of glad Robert Downey Jr. got several second chances. tridim Apr 2013 #56

IMO, the media provides an object for hatred and ridicule when they begin to pile on a Arkansas Granny Apr 2013 #22

with fame and fortune comes media scrutiny. cali Apr 2013 #24

one could argue she uses the negative news to push her product Johonny Apr 2013 #58

It's terrible that she enjoys privilege, wealth and luxury that few can imagine Orrex Apr 2013 #23

Because other people are typically held responsible for their behavior? EOTE Apr 2013 #25

Maybe people don't like her because she's a republican. Zorra Apr 2013 #28

I think she makes a fine, upstanding Republican role-model. I wish more Republican women would Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #47

The tabloid entertainment press doesn't help LeftInTX Apr 2013 #29

Here's what I dislike the most.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #32

It is perfectly understandable under AA's theory of mind AngryAmish Apr 2013 #33

I don't think the addiction figures into the hatred. People see a young, attractive person who Marr Apr 2013 #34

She was a real trooper on Letterman last night fadedrose Apr 2013 #35

I think it bothers people when they see someone with a great opportunity hughee99 Apr 2013 #36

People hate Lindsay Lohan because of the constant coverage she gets from trash tabloid media. Initech Apr 2013 #40

She is an entitled brat, drug abuse or not ellie Apr 2013 #41

and there are also rumors on some of the celebrity sites maryellen99 Apr 2013 #64

Oh great ANOTHER straw man thread on her. themaguffin Apr 2013 #43

I've read otherwise. That's why I raised the question. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #60

I don't hate Lindsay Lohan, I feel extremely sad that a young woman with huge talent Fla Dem Apr 2013 #44

I don't hate Lindsay Lohan or any other celebrity--they're not worth it Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #48

What did she do now? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #50

Something about being on the David Letterman show where Letterman R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #62

I think the last time I watched Letterman was 1991 or so. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #68

I only remember her name when people bring her up. Rex Apr 2013 #51

She contributes nothing positive to society. Apophis Apr 2013 #52

Most news is not about positivity. kwassa Apr 2013 #54

As said on the other thread, David Letterman should be fired for his abuse of Lindsay graham4anything Apr 2013 #53

people resent the squandering of talent and opportunity and that she gets preferential TeamPooka Apr 2013 #55

The only thing I fault her for is being a Romney supporter. catbyte Apr 2013 #57

People have been TOO kind to Linsday...to her own detriment. SoCalDem Apr 2013 #66

She hasn't done anything remotely notable since "Mean Girls". BlueStater Apr 2013 #67

we spit people out because we are cruel animals olddots Apr 2013 #70

While addiction is a serious problem, it might have been avoided had she not been such a wastrel. JVS Apr 2013 #71

I hate her stupidity tabasco Apr 2013 #72

driving while drunk was not mentioned once in your OP Elvin Ives Apr 2013 #74

I'm not sure that I had an argument more than a question. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #77

She's a nice person and deserves every hour of rehab in the Hamptons this summer. GodlessBiker Apr 2013 #76

Who's Lindsey Lohan? LTX Apr 2013 #78

If she keeps on going like this, she's going to end up just like Candy Sycamore nt MrScorpio May 2013 #80