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46. We regulate speeding, drunk driving, etc. even though people often speed or drive drunk without

Wed Apr 10, 2013, 04:53 PM

Apr 2013

hurting anyone.

The extreme anti-gun control crowd (i.e., those who oppose any and all measures that would impose any additional "burden" on the ownership or use of guns (note the word "any&quot like to make the point with respect to particular measures that they won't be 100 percent effective and/or that they will impose burdens on the law abiding.

To go back to the OP and some of the responses it has generated. Some folks have suggested that the answer isn't more stop signs, it speed bumps. But the response of the extreme anti-gun control crowd would be the same to both (if they approached regulating driving the way they approach regulating guns): putting up speed bumps or more stop signs inconvenience folks that drive the legal speed limit (since they would have to stop more often and or slow below the legal limit when going over speed bumps) and they wouldn't stop those who are hell bent on speeding.

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So then let's just get rid of all the stop signs. [View all] calimary Apr 2013 OP

Proud to kick and recommend this *EXTREMELY* well written post. IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #1

Thank you, IdaBriggs! calimary Apr 2013 #2

If we follow your analogy... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #3

Oh we've already done that. Tried it. It only worked for the hour or so the speed trap was there. calimary Apr 2013 #7

What YOU need are speed bumps robbob Apr 2013 #39

Cars require every driver to have a license Sheepshank Apr 2013 #17

Couldn't have said it better and... TreasonousBastard Apr 2013 #4

This is what gun control advocates... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #5

Well, if their side can do it, I think OUR side should do it too. calimary Apr 2013 #10

I'm just saying this is why you shouldn't be too shocked Bay Boy Apr 2013 #25

Yep, you're absolutely correct. And that does NOT mean we should EVER back down. calimary Apr 2013 #49

Off to greatest with you! nt raccoon Apr 2013 #6

Thank you, raccoon! calimary Apr 2013 #8

Speed Bumps or Chicanes One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #9

We have those as well! Speed bumps for sure. calimary Apr 2013 #14

Your bumps are too small One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #18

Yeah, that is true, too. But those are all we're allowed. calimary Apr 2013 #22

So laws up to but not including bans will not work? hack89 Apr 2013 #11

Not at all. calimary Apr 2013 #19

I agree - that is why universal background checks are so important. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #28

TOTALLY!!!! They are critically important, and considering the nature of them, calimary Apr 2013 #31

I think the OP is addressing the hyperbole that Dash87 Apr 2013 #41

The less AR-15s and high capacity mags out there, the better. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #12

The present number in the hands of the public must not represent a threat to public safety hack89 Apr 2013 #15

I'm sure the officials and families in Connecticut were certain the law of averages was on calimary Apr 2013 #32

Would you make their possession illegal? hack89 Apr 2013 #33

Well, if calimary was king, I'd say yes. calimary Apr 2013 #40

If people answered this one honestly... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #51

Well, I for one would NOT shed tears if the gun manufacturing industry lost some income. calimary Apr 2013 #54

This actually works pretty well in Vietnam Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #13

That's funny n/t Bay Boy Apr 2013 #55

kick! napkinz Apr 2013 #16

They call such intersections TRAFFIC CIRCLES...very popular HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #20

The solution where I live are speed bumps. The ones designed to really make them slow down. freshwest Apr 2013 #21

Agreed. I just wish we could have those on our street. calimary Apr 2013 #23

My neighborhood kept insisting until it was done. It doesn't always take a death to do so. freshwest Apr 2013 #27

That's what finally happened for us, and how we got those stop signs on our street. calimary Apr 2013 #57

All very true. But I think the speed bumps would help your community since they run the stop signs. freshwest Apr 2013 #58

I know the speed bumps you're describing - there are some, shall we say, ruthless ones. calimary Apr 2013 #59

I know... Alternatively, how about a sign saying they're being filmed at the Stop sign? Install freshwest Apr 2013 #60

And Emergency services hate them. /nt TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #62

Only cops should be driving on streets. Dr. Strange Apr 2013 #24

yes, but they routinely ignore things like 'coming to a complete stop'. HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #26

We had a state cop living up the street years ago IDemo Apr 2013 #29

Limit vehicle speeds nationoflaws Apr 2013 #30

You win! Zoeisright Apr 2013 #37

I'm not arguing with some measures of gun control nationoflaws Apr 2013 #42

Must be a new definition of "fun" that ain't in my dictionary yet. mac56 Apr 2013 #45

Fun for me includes playing Devil's advocate to make sure an argument is sound. nationoflaws Apr 2013 #48

You must be a stone cold blast at parties. mac56 Apr 2013 #50

I was referring to the OP's street as a reference. I don't know where you live... nationoflaws Apr 2013 #52

Um, Calimary IS the OP. So I DID answer your question. mac56 Apr 2013 #53

Nation O' Flaws? mac56 Apr 2013 #38

So we need laws against owning cars? Or just laws to punish those who misuse them? The Straight Story Apr 2013 #34

There are "cars" you can't own: tanks; there should be "guns" you can't own: ARs & 10+bullet mags. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #36

You can own a tank nationoflaws Apr 2013 #43

I hope you're enjoying your pizza. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #64

Tell me what you think an AR does that is different from other guns (nt) The Straight Story Apr 2013 #47

A 22 revolver can't blast 26 people to pieces in a few minutes like an AR can. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #63

We regulate speeding, drunk driving, etc. even though people often speed or drive drunk without onenote Apr 2013 #46

K&R abelenkpe Apr 2013 #35

I once lived on a block where there were no street signs of any kind. Cleita Apr 2013 #44

Excellent post. calimary Apr 2013 #61

Get rid of stop signs because law breakers will go through them anyway. Kablooie Apr 2013 #56