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In reply to the discussion: So then let's just get rid of all the stop signs. [View all]nationoflaws
(6 posts)48. Fun for me includes playing Devil's advocate to make sure an argument is sound.
Plus the OP was not in the Gungeon, so I'm just playing along.
However, back to your question:
Um, yes, yes, there are circumstances where the intended non-destructive use of a motor vehicle may require you to drive faster than the speed limit. To get out of immediate harm, for example, or to transport someone to an emergency room. One does not need a Ferrari to do so, however. How does that fit into your analogous argument?
The OP was complaining about people speeding on his street and endangering the neighborhood residents. I proposed that we limit the speed of new vehicles to not be allowed to go over that limit. You counter that sometimes it may be necessary to go faster in order to protect one's self and others in danger, in spite of the fact that if you do so on the OP's street, you are increasing the risk to his neighbors.
In the gun argument, people complain about gun crazies shooting up the neighborhoods on shooting sprees. They propose to limit the capacity of new weapons to not allow high bullet capacity in order to prevent this. Gun advocates (and you by your argument) counter that sometimes it may be necessary to have higher capacity in order to protect one's self or others in danger, in spite of higher risk to others by doing so.
Sounds like the same analogy to me.
Are you saying that you will argue it is necessary to speed down the OP's street if you are trying to get to the hospital, while the old people and children on roller skates take their chances?
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Oh we've already done that. Tried it. It only worked for the hour or so the speed trap was there.
calimary
Apr 2013
#7
Yep, you're absolutely correct. And that does NOT mean we should EVER back down.
calimary
Apr 2013
#49
TOTALLY!!!! They are critically important, and considering the nature of them,
calimary
Apr 2013
#31
The present number in the hands of the public must not represent a threat to public safety
hack89
Apr 2013
#15
I'm sure the officials and families in Connecticut were certain the law of averages was on
calimary
Apr 2013
#32
Well, I for one would NOT shed tears if the gun manufacturing industry lost some income.
calimary
Apr 2013
#54
The solution where I live are speed bumps. The ones designed to really make them slow down.
freshwest
Apr 2013
#21
My neighborhood kept insisting until it was done. It doesn't always take a death to do so.
freshwest
Apr 2013
#27
That's what finally happened for us, and how we got those stop signs on our street.
calimary
Apr 2013
#57
All very true. But I think the speed bumps would help your community since they run the stop signs.
freshwest
Apr 2013
#58
I know the speed bumps you're describing - there are some, shall we say, ruthless ones.
calimary
Apr 2013
#59
I know... Alternatively, how about a sign saying they're being filmed at the Stop sign? Install
freshwest
Apr 2013
#60
Fun for me includes playing Devil's advocate to make sure an argument is sound.
nationoflaws
Apr 2013
#48
I was referring to the OP's street as a reference. I don't know where you live...
nationoflaws
Apr 2013
#52
So we need laws against owning cars? Or just laws to punish those who misuse them?
The Straight Story
Apr 2013
#34
There are "cars" you can't own: tanks; there should be "guns" you can't own: ARs & 10+bullet mags.
SunSeeker
Apr 2013
#36
Tell me what you think an AR does that is different from other guns (nt)
The Straight Story
Apr 2013
#47
A 22 revolver can't blast 26 people to pieces in a few minutes like an AR can.
SunSeeker
Apr 2013
#63