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211. Obama budget cuts Medicare benefits and provider payments

Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:15 PM

Apr 2013

Daily Kos

"On the other hand, the proposals for seniors aren't a positive move. At least Obama didn't include the hike in the Medicare eligibility age that he had previously offered to Boehner, but what he does include could be another hit for seniors, on top of the chained CPI. Cutting out Medigap policies would increase out-of-pocket costs for seniors. Those costs have been steadily and steeply rising [pdf] for seniors already over the past two decades. Adding more means testing to the program (wealthier individuals already pay higher premiums for Part B, the part that covers physician services and supplies) shifts the program further from from universal coverage and opens it up to more and more means testing, and toward a stigmatized and politically vulnerable poverty program."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/10/1200686/-Obama-budget-cuts-Medicare-benefits-and-provider-paymentshere

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The Professional Left Is Handing Republicans Precisely What They Want [View all] babylonsister Apr 2013 OP

If I wanted to read rants against the left I could go to Free Republic Fumesucker Apr 2013 #1

Or check the White House site for transcripts. nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #48

No one here is quiet about the non Medicade expansion....right here in fLA every day....so can it. SugarShack Apr 2013 #189

If I wanted to read rants against President Obama, I could go to Free Republic, too. n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #54

Why do you pragmatic moderate centrists even care what the left thinks? Fumesucker Apr 2013 #69

I'm just saying your argument is weak, Fumesucker. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #77

If only it was just the Left that is outraged over a Democratic president offering to cut SS but sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #83

+1000 blackspade Apr 2013 #125

So what is the proper term for those on the left... DCBob Apr 2013 #170

I'm not sure who you are referring to. If you are referring to 'democrats' who are attempting to sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #173

How about "Strawman" AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #188

+100 G_j Apr 2013 #177

It says that they are "hurting.". If this is all they have KoKo Apr 2013 #194

Oh wow, so what are you bothering with? treestar Apr 2013 #161

Between that and all the pious souls getting offended Warpy Apr 2013 #121

The DLC got the message... Damage control is now in process... newthinking Apr 2013 #123

interesting....and true. no longer fun at all Sheepshank Apr 2013 #146

+1000 Andy823 Apr 2013 #181

We also need to stop outsourcing jobs so American workers have decent jobs to contribute to SS nt antigop Apr 2013 #206

If we wanted to hear rants against the President/Democrats we could go there too treestar Apr 2013 #160

Cut this down to four paragraphs so you don't run afoul of copyright...but yes, it is a fair point. MADem Apr 2013 #2

I was just thinking that last paragraph utterly nailed it Number23 Apr 2013 #15

Yes, poor helpless "No Control" Obama. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #3

the prez is just a bystander, you know Skittles Apr 2013 #5

Totally helpless. Marr Apr 2013 #35

*Abandoned* by librul meanies. WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #96

Another twisted mischaracterization Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #154

He has control over some things and none over others treestar Apr 2013 #163

"emoprogs and the so-called professional left " bobduca Apr 2013 #4

"emoprogs" = white Democrats AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #53

"Emo" really sums up the foaming-at-the-mouth frenzy. n/t BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #6

"Emoprog" certainly deserves a place in the lexicon tridim Apr 2013 #37

I believe there is a very good moral & economic argument against cutting SS & Medicare at all. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #7

How is the pay? roody Apr 2013 #61

A bunch of nonsense and invective. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #8

I managed to wade through until I got to "emoprogs". pa28 Apr 2013 #9

"Emoprogs" kicked me into scan mode. hay rick Apr 2013 #60

You probably missed the part about liberal whining causing the 2010 disaster. pa28 Apr 2013 #68

I seem to recall, just a few years back, Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #85

Remember that absorbed dosage of bullshit Union Scribe Apr 2013 #93

If you are are comparing this to radioactivity I've already got a fatal dose. I might as well study. pa28 Apr 2013 #108

. Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #10

That pic looks familiar. Where did I see it? demmiblue Apr 2013 #12

Some obscure lefty website, with emoprogs for owners no doubt! Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #18

! demmiblue Apr 2013 #21

Rmuse can... 99Forever Apr 2013 #11

and the Third Way Trojan horse they rode in on neverforget Apr 2013 #16

I always laugh when I see references like this, because THIRD is precisely what this particular patrice Apr 2013 #63

So basically it's the Left's fault that the President put SSI on the table? neverforget Apr 2013 #13

Why, of course! Everything is our fault! Didn't you know? markpkessinger Apr 2013 #17

Got to agree. RGinNJ Apr 2013 #73

The Dino's and worshipers want SS on the table. You don't see them defending SS. L0oniX Apr 2013 #74

you got that right. very well said! neverforget Apr 2013 #110

This kind of post is what the "emo" is for treestar Apr 2013 #165

So Obama was forced to give SSI to Republicans because? neverforget Apr 2013 #168

SSI? treestar Apr 2013 #182

you can't even answer the question. I guess my Senator is an "emo" neverforget Apr 2013 #186

No you made that leap treestar Apr 2013 #207

Look what this Republican said today about Chained CPI neverforget Apr 2013 #210

Take THAT, The Left! Union Scribe Apr 2013 #14

I really resent the term "Professional Left" markpkessinger Apr 2013 #19

I agree it is an idiotic term grantcart Apr 2013 #59

I always thought he was aiming it at leftwing punditry AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #126

Yes : professional commentators, high dollar web bloggers/sites (HuffPo) emulatorloo Apr 2013 #215

the 'professional left' are the minders who write crap like this. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #20

more like the Palace Guard neverforget Apr 2013 #22

whatever you call it, they get paid to spout crap. unlike me. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #25

I will not say it. I will not. I will not. nt msanthrope Apr 2013 #34

Heheh... SidDithers Apr 2013 #42

I don't understand why crap like this gets posted to DU.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #23

"I know. Have at it." Maven Apr 2013 #24

seems like carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #156

delusional. KG Apr 2013 #26

What's delusional is thinking that threats & promises not to vote etc. get you what you want in a patrice Apr 2013 #36

So what does work? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #81

Everyone on that bandwagon needs to ask themselves why they are working to defeat THEIR OWN issue.nt patrice Apr 2013 #27

The only one handing Repugs what they want is President Obama. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #28

I don't believe I have ever seen you spout anything but propaganda slogans. PLEASE answer a question patrice Apr 2013 #30

One that doesn't mean I'll freeze and starve in my old age? Fumesucker Apr 2013 #32

So, you'll throw the defeat of DOMA under the bus, alternative energy development, the right to patrice Apr 2013 #50

You said one, not all of them Fumesucker Apr 2013 #66

Obama is doing next to nothing for the environment. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #86

There's this. sheshe2 Apr 2013 #106

I believe that the military is taking action on the environment JDPriestly Apr 2013 #111

I agree with you, that nuclear waste is a huge issue. sheshe2 Apr 2013 #115

If Republicans win, yes treestar Apr 2013 #166

There is no reason to trade ANY issue unless pro-Obama propaganda like yours MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #149

And NO ONE will say what issue they'll throw under the bus in exchange for success against the CPI. patrice Apr 2013 #29

Success against the CPI? How about not offering it up to the Republicans? neverforget Apr 2013 #33

To find out who will go for it and who won't and who will give what to make it happen and patrice Apr 2013 #39

So we have to choose between seniors and kids to satisfy Republicans? neverforget Apr 2013 #55

NO! not if people stop advertising to the opposition that they will weaken the Democrats' positions patrice Apr 2013 #75

I'm not threatening Democrats. neverforget Apr 2013 #113

Now it is the "Three dimensional chess" argument? newthinking Apr 2013 #130

+1,000 nt MADem Apr 2013 #131

I would trade half of our overseas military bases for no chained CPI JDPriestly Apr 2013 #94

and that can't be discussed because that ground (military bloat) newthinking Apr 2013 #132

We have to trade something with the Democratic President? Marr Apr 2013 #40

We could not go after Cheney, or Wall Street, and we can not go after some of the trillions Babel_17 Apr 2013 #52

I have an idea, instead of asking which of my other organs I am willing to sacrifice Dragonfli Apr 2013 #139

Issue thrown under the bus? AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #172

'The Left' Nite Owl Apr 2013 #31

It is not wrong for the "left" to protect popular progrms created Progressive dog Apr 2013 #38

That's right, when that protection is mounted effectively. What is going on is not protection, it's patrice Apr 2013 #41

Let's cut the military budget and do away with private contractors for JDPriestly Apr 2013 #100

Military contractors are CHEAPER than using military personnel to do the work. MADem Apr 2013 #133

But very, very good for the economy. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #151

Unfortunately, in the case of the present war, we, as a nation, were not on a MADem Apr 2013 #175

All volunteer means to me that volunteers cook and wash dishes, JDPriestly Apr 2013 #178

It costs too much to do that. Soldiers are for putting ordnance on target, not scrubbing crappers. MADem Apr 2013 #185

But the reality remains: the old way won WWII; the new way hasn't won anything. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #192

When have we fought a "World War" since WW2? MADem Apr 2013 #196

We lost Iraq on the ground. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #198

We had no business in Iraq--Dumbya wanted to avenge his "deddy," plain and simple. MADem Apr 2013 #201

So, in this world of serious political negotiations Sheepshank Apr 2013 #164

Yes. It is the only proposal that will work. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #174

Awesome... SidDithers Apr 2013 #43

So is there a "Professional Left" giftwrap? I like my gifts to be special. Safetykitten Apr 2013 #44

Got to slice and dice. Rex Apr 2013 #47

Break promises, lost trust Babel_17 Apr 2013 #45

Please produce links with quotes in which the word "promise" was used. Thanks. nt patrice Apr 2013 #56

You don't consider saying you'll do something a promise? Babel_17 Apr 2013 #67

Looking forward to it, including a discusion of how presidents are not kings. nt patrice Apr 2013 #79

Why is that up for discussion? Babel_17 Apr 2013 #84

The guy in that video looks familiar... 99Forever Apr 2013 #152

That is a funny article. Rex Apr 2013 #46

DO NOT STAY HOME nakocal Apr 2013 #49

It's certainly not Obama's fault MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #51

Bush's third term really sucked. nt hay rick Apr 2013 #62

Raging against the left on a Democratic blog? AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #57

Look through this thread and you will see that the worshippers are just fine with Rmuse. L0oniX Apr 2013 #65

Do you suppose... Oilwellian Apr 2013 #107

Or perhaps... AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #114

"It's all a game to them"... newthinking Apr 2013 #127

Calling for the President's impeachment on a Democratic blog? sheshe2 Apr 2013 #82

Did AgingAmerican Say That HangOnKids Apr 2013 #88

I never said that Aging American said that. I never quoted him. sheshe2 Apr 2013 #95

"DU" is not calling for impeachment. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #98

Really? sheshe2 Apr 2013 #101

There is great irony here. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #105

According to the huge # of Op's that are being posted here sheshe2 Apr 2013 #112

Opinions are a bad thing AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #179

Oh sure, 52 people out of thousands...I see what you are doing here. Rex Apr 2013 #208

Priceless HangOnKids Apr 2013 #103

I feel just as overwhelmed by those raging against the President, babylonsister Apr 2013 #128

They arent raging against the president AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #129

Noope, SS is the just the most recent rage Sheepshank Apr 2013 #150

Rage against the strawman AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #171

This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #159

That is the largest pile of bullshit I have ever seen on DU. You could grow mushrooms on it and... L0oniX Apr 2013 #58

Your post is priceless Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #102

yeah, emoprogs like Bernie fucking Sanders just need to chill the fuck out.. frylock Apr 2013 #64

The ritual floggings have commenced. Hekate Apr 2013 #70

Let 'em rage with their hyperbolic tantrums. Cha Apr 2013 #71

More pushing of the Third Way lie that liberals stayed home in 2010. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #72

And many of the coveted moderates and independents who voted for O in 2008... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #90

EXACTLY! veganlush Apr 2013 #76

babylonsister makes the complaint that a legitimate disagreement with a bad proposal Nika Apr 2013 #78

Huh? Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #104

fuck that. the OP was another shit and run post blaming liberals for obama's poor decisions.. frylock Apr 2013 #158

You mean like someone learning the proper definition of "apologist"? Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #169

The OP is a divisive temper tantrum AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #176

I merely asked a question. Nika Apr 2013 #205

Please do not attempt Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #80

Where do you guys get this stuff? AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #134

Still not convinced. But keep the Crap Blogs coming... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #87

+1 Rex Apr 2013 #92

Dems should present Dem budget, R's should try to force compromise. nt delrem Apr 2013 #89

Right, and that's exactly what will happen. The Dem budget hasn't been presented yet. tridim Apr 2013 #136

The Professional Left Is Handing Republicans Precisely What They Want, Thanks To Obama DeSwiss Apr 2013 #91

K&R! n/t sheshe2 Apr 2013 #97

Hahaha whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #99

Immasmartypants' distant cousin? WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #109

Cute. N/T sheshe2 Apr 2013 #116

Not as cute as this... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #118

Chained CPI is Handing Republicans Precisely What They Want AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #117

The Republicans want SS privatized. tridim Apr 2013 #137

I thought we had to offer up cuts because THEY wanted them? They don't want these cuts? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #140

The Republicans want SS to just go away so they can steal the money AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #180

How does offering up SS to the republican chopping block keep it from becoming privatized? AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #184

It doesn't because SS wasn't "offered up to the GOP chopping block"... tridim Apr 2013 #190

It's in Obama's budget proposal, proposing to cut SS and Medicare - AKA chopping block AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #195

Now Medicare is cut too? tridim Apr 2013 #197

Yes, $305 billion over ten years AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #199

Obama also proposes $305 billion in cuts to Medicare over a decade... tridim Apr 2013 #204

Obama budget cuts Medicare benefits and provider payments AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #211

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #119

And they conveniently leave out this excerpt from the article that started it ALL: Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #120

Then what is the point of doing it? blackspade Apr 2013 #142

means testing SS is a step toward destroying it e.o.m. amborin Apr 2013 #143

! QC Apr 2013 #200

If anyone actually believed all that crap TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #122

Drivel. blackspade Apr 2013 #124

Wow,what a mind numbingly stupid article. bowens43 Apr 2013 #135

I demand my back pay! n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #138

I'll tell you why I'm miffed OnionPatch Apr 2013 #141

"Symbolism" does matter /nt Armstead Apr 2013 #144

Several bingos in this thread Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #145

Bingo indeed-- great post carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #162

This bingo card gives me all kinds of warm & fuzzies! bullwinkle428 Apr 2013 #191

Smells like teen spirit. Zorra Apr 2013 #147

That about sums it up. Obama = BAD, BAD, BAD!!! Meanwhile, *crikets* on how Republicans are Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #148

^^^This treestar Apr 2013 #167

"point the finger at him FIRST" AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #183

Even apart from the SS issue, this has been happening ever since the man but his hand on Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #202

Yes and don't forget Andy823 Apr 2013 #203

Don't, please try to steer fredamae Apr 2013 #153

The Third way folks are the real "professional left" Mnpaul Apr 2013 #155

For the Father Knows Best wing of the party, blame the left is easier than standing up to the Repugs Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #157

Does being a "Professional Leftist" mean I should be getting paid for my views? deutsey Apr 2013 #187

What about the "Professional Right" are they important too? bemildred Apr 2013 #193

Wow, a hit and run article that is full of crap. Rex Apr 2013 #209

Sadly, I think you may be right. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #212

Why inflict this on us? KamaAina Apr 2013 #213

they had people like this writer in Haiti MisterP Apr 2013 #214