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87. Once again

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:25 AM

Apr 2013

A party, any party serves its voters. It may or may not serve them well, but in the current atmosphere they serve no one who is not reliable at the voting booth.

4 years ago the Obama campaign cast a wide net and worked to get caucasian liberals like me out to the polls. In 2012 they spent their time and $ locally organizing the hispanic and black communities. I had to drive 15 miles to the hispanic community find an office with a yard sign. The events were held in the black and hispanic communities. I have and had no problem with is. They were going to the places where very large margins could be stacked up, and found the margins they needed to win there.

These places are just not as liberal as we are. A political party is the sum of its voters. Voting for another party simply makes you part of a different sum.

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WHOOMP, there it is. [View all] MadHound Apr 2013 OP

That's a whole lot of words to say, "vote third party". PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #1

Keep on doing what you've been doing, you're going to keep on getting what you're getting, MadHound Apr 2013 #3

Also, 1993 called and wants its witty cultural reference back. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #6

The people who are about to endorse or reject his proposed SS cut are running again. Marr Apr 2013 #11

Nice sidestep, but the question remains, MadHound Apr 2013 #12

No. I am in Wisconsin. I am a proud Wisconsin Democrat. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #14

So you have become that which you mock, MadHound Apr 2013 #18

bless your misguided little heart... PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #20

bwahahahahahaha. cali Apr 2013 #43

I agree, MadHound. loudsue Apr 2013 #77

And if they back the White House over the people's interests? Union Scribe Apr 2013 #27

You are right... Mr. Evil Apr 2013 #62

Now the Democratic Congress-Critters have to decide if they are going to run rhett o rick Apr 2013 #21

blah, blah, blah. I won't hold WI Democratic candidates responsible for this. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #26

Did we change the subject when I wasnt looking? Doesnt matter. You have nothing but rudeness (blah, rhett o rick Apr 2013 #32

This is what happens when the veil is stripped away, MadHound Apr 2013 #35

They wont ever "wake up". They live in a carefully krafted denial bubble. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #45

dammit, this post convinced me. I'm never voting for Barack again. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #52

That's not so hard -- He's not running! eom CokeMachine Apr 2013 #139

Your position is Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #116

Your inability to read my other posts in this thread is what's short-sighted. Spare me your total BS PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #117

Learn to read a thread and how to write on one. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #134

Bless your fucking poor, sad little misguided heart. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #138

Still can't put a sentence together? Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #144

here's a sentence for you: PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #145

Ooooooh. I touched a nerve. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #149

And another to clear up your inability to read for comprehension: PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #148

Still don't care? But you begin your continued defense Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #150

Like we did in 2000 DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #83

It might be time to reconsider that thinking NV Whino Apr 2013 #8

Bullshit PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #9

S T R A W M A N !! nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #13

Bullshit PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #16

No, the OP wants the Democratic party to fucking sit up and pay attention to us, MadHound Apr 2013 #22

back atcha, chief. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #23

Chief? MadHound Apr 2013 #30

oooo, someone should tell corporate America their "executive officers", PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #33

LOL! But you didn't use any of those term, MadHound Apr 2013 #39

bless your misguided little heart... PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #40

Your response smacks of desperation. You cant defend why the Pres proposed cutting SS so you are rhett o rick Apr 2013 #28

whatever... PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #29

So your response is "whatever"? Add that to your "bullshit" responses. You dont seem to have rhett o rick Apr 2013 #36

my response is in the link, but it's cute how verklempt I'm making you. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #38

Ich denke, du meintest verklemmpt. What is cute is your attempts at rhett o rick Apr 2013 #109

it's not all Democrats, it is one Skittles Apr 2013 #124

Not considering the fudr here it isn't uponit7771 Apr 2013 #102

Voting third party destroyed this country. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #60

How about voting for a Second Party? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #80

sorry, but that's complete bullshit noiretextatique Apr 2013 #132

You say that those that do not believe as you are fools. I guess there is no reason to discuss rhett o rick Apr 2013 #136

I think he's saying we need a Second Party. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #79

Also known as "We divide, THEY conquer." calimary Apr 2013 #131

Funny you advocate short term pain because Dems are causing pain. upaloopa Apr 2013 #2

Well, that's a logic salad, MadHound Apr 2013 #4

Your damn smart how does it feel to be so upaloopa Apr 2013 #17

Not superior, MadHound Apr 2013 #24

Me snippy? Is that being worse that what you upaloopa Apr 2013 #31

Alrighty then, MadHound Apr 2013 #34

Voting for the lesser of two evils Mr. Evil Apr 2013 #67

excellent OP.... mike_c Apr 2013 #5

I remember wanting Gore to best Perot on NAFTA...how STUPID OF ME.. tokenlib Apr 2013 #7

+1000 Go Vols Apr 2013 #50

a deeper problem is, losing elections has no real adverse consequences for dem party KG Apr 2013 #10

Oh, I think that if there was a massive loss of support, it would make a huge difference. MadHound Apr 2013 #15

Yes, it makes total sense to Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #68

. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #70

What's the solution? Mr. Evil Apr 2013 #76

It would take eight years, probably much less, given history and political realities MadHound Apr 2013 #78

The Republican Party Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #84

Geez, read your history, please MadHound Apr 2013 #100

OMG. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #146

+1 n/t FSogol Apr 2013 #99

I'm happy with my dems (and my independent) cali Apr 2013 #19

So you're happy with the chained CPI? MadHound Apr 2013 #25

oh fer fuck's sake, you know I'm not. I've posted prodigiously about it. cali Apr 2013 #37

I am proposing that we hold our party, our politicians responsible for their actions. MadHound Apr 2013 #44

No you are not. You are spouting tired, hollow rhetoric cali Apr 2013 #54

yup. this. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #46

Actually, what was posted is readily available for anyone to see. Your statement that AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #53

I understand what you're trying to say. Mr. Evil Apr 2013 #72

Excellent post! K&R NorthCarolina Apr 2013 #41

Excellent post and thread! Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #42

K&R forestpath Apr 2013 #47

Short term pain? wryter2000 Apr 2013 #48

And yet Obama has signed a midnight deal with Kharzi to keep troops in Afghanistan through 2024, MadHound Apr 2013 #51

And what are you saying to those who want to rid themselves of the Taliban? randome Apr 2013 #89

Pretty much, yeah. MindPilot Apr 2013 #91

Umm, the Kharzi government is telling the Taliban MadHound Apr 2013 #101

Having Republicans in charge won't do anything to fix that n/t wryter2000 Apr 2013 #113

Let's do it. I'm ready. One way or the other. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #49

Warning shot across the bow- mass registration for a third party on point Apr 2013 #55

It's a wonderful thought. jaded_old_cynic Apr 2013 #56

Democrats need to be primaried by DU members.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #57

Sorry, I stopped reading at "party uber alles". Have never found hyperbole like this a benefit pinto Apr 2013 #58

I really don't know what to do anymore. Cleita Apr 2013 #59

Yep, dividing the Democratic Party by forming a third party is a GREAT idea!.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #61

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Apr 2013 #63

I have to respectfully disagree stupidicus Apr 2013 #64

I can't continue to do this jopacaco Apr 2013 #65

k/r +100 840high Apr 2013 #66

Jury Results: Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #69

Would like to see us weed out those who don't support lexington filly Apr 2013 #71

People made the same stupid argument in 2000, SpartanDem Apr 2013 #73

"Fine, ever so sensible centrist friends" Jack Rabbit Apr 2013 #74

Most calls for revolution are met with cynicism. Billy Pilgrim Apr 2013 #75

So who do we vote for? Mr. Evil Apr 2013 #81

K&R pam4water Apr 2013 #82

Holding Dems responsible? WTF are PRIMARIES for, anyway? eridani Apr 2013 #85

Primaries are where the battle is fought, I agree. randome Apr 2013 #97

Primary JEB Apr 2013 #111

My Grandmother takes in a little less that $600.00 per month on SSI Jasana Apr 2013 #86

Since you've told us how much your grandmother is receiving... randome Apr 2013 #90

Well, let's start with... Jasana Apr 2013 #127

Once again quaker bill Apr 2013 #87

Not one. Not a single suggestion of how to realistically achieve this in a given time period. cali Apr 2013 #88

You mean as opposed to the people who would sacrifice the poor, disabled and elderly... MindPilot Apr 2013 #92

No. I don't. Now do tell who you sacrifice, how long it will take and what the plan is cali Apr 2013 #93

In any journey toward a compassionate liberal future, woo me with science Apr 2013 #96

yes, I can see you have no grasp of the complexities. that, honeypie, is abundantly clear. cali Apr 2013 #112

Well, *that* certainly settles things, woo me with science Apr 2013 #114

Financially secure?! MadHound Apr 2013 #104

Remember when DU didn't allow third-party advocacy?... SidDithers Apr 2013 #94

Remember when Democrats held onto certain bedrock positions? MadHound Apr 2013 #103

Remember when election season was the only time it was verboten? Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #105

Well, you've been here for a year... SidDithers Apr 2013 #110

Nice deflection. No, Ms. Thug has been here since nearly the beginning, about the same time as you. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #115

Right? Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #130

Unfortunately, "Short Term Pain" will = "The Death of the U.S.A." HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #95

So, hand the keys over to the cons, shills, vultures, christianists and batshit loons? VOX Apr 2013 #98

TOE THE LINE! n/t Hotler Apr 2013 #106

K&R FiggyJay Apr 2013 #107

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #108

Short-term pain = Republican gain = long-term pain Orsino Apr 2013 #118

NO. OCCUPY THE DNC goddamn it. yodermon Apr 2013 #119

It's in my interests that Repubs don't win. caseymoz Apr 2013 #120

Picture a ball on a plane or tabletop whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #121

Your right, we all should be giving the rich and wealthy a lot more to worry about nolabels Apr 2013 #135

You say you want a revolution welllllllll...ya know BrainDrain Apr 2013 #122

+1000 and welcome to DU CokeMachine Apr 2013 #140

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #123

No. And if you think otherwise, you can go start PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #125

Not a third party marions ghost Apr 2013 #128

We used to laugh at what an echo chamber awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #126

All options should be on the table. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #129

I might love to see 20 years of nothing but Republican rule and policies.... SamReynolds Apr 2013 #133

We've had 30 years of Republican rule already and it hasnt taught rhett o rick Apr 2013 #137

But, what will happen to the SC in those few years? Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #141

This didn't go well with Nader in 2000 or Progressive dog Apr 2013 #142

IF this ever comes to a vote (which I doubt), why don't we see how each Dem votes? gateley Apr 2013 #143

I have made some vows to myself. 99Forever Apr 2013 #147

I am so done with these sold out bought and paid for bastards. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #151