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99Forever

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44. Okay, you've made me curious enough to ask.

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:23 AM

Apr 2013

If we accept this premise (your words, no one elses):

"Men raping women is static. It doesn't change, IMO."

What is the point of trying to stop it from happening by "talking" to us horrible men about it? Seems (according to you) a complete exercise in futility. Could you please explain?

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Some good news about rape--There is much less of it these days. [View all] Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 OP

Hello? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #1

Certainly doesn't fit the narrative. sibelian Apr 2013 #2

What narrative? The Link Apr 2013 #4

narrative "rape culture is alive and well and growing" snooper2 Apr 2013 #7

Yeah, that's the one. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #9

Rape culture is alive and well, as recent news events have amply demonstrated. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #51

Is that what your goal was? Rex Apr 2013 #26

good news! n/t RainDog Apr 2013 #3

This is good news, I think. Demoiselle Apr 2013 #5

I could post lots of articles that say the decline in rape stats justiceischeap Apr 2013 #6

why would they be more discouraged today than in 1995? seems they'd be less discouraged HiPointDem Apr 2013 #8

And there's no reason to believe reporting is *less* discouraged/impeded today than 15 yrs ago justiceischeap Apr 2013 #14

there's no reason to believe that things have gotten worse re reporting -- on college campuses HiPointDem Apr 2013 #16

my son is going to university of new orleans next year. they have ONE reported rape for last year. seabeyond Apr 2013 #19

*crickets* redqueen Apr 2013 #33

The fear of coming forward and facing your attacker was also true in 1995. Threedifferentones Apr 2013 #38

in 1997, 1 in 36 female college students were raped. Every school year. KitSileya Apr 2013 #54

i do not know. i do not know that they have gone down, stayed the same or gone up. seabeyond Apr 2013 #57

These are actual numbers. Do you have any actual numbers? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #18

... justiceischeap Apr 2013 #28

*more crickets* redqueen Apr 2013 #34

All of that was also true in 1995. Threedifferentones Apr 2013 #42

wrong. i am not going to go hunting for link, but i read not long ago, they decided the questions seabeyond Apr 2013 #43

Once again, as long as the flaws in the questions are consistent, the drop is real. Threedifferentones Apr 2013 #45

as i said, they found how and when they asked the question, gave different answers. so even though seabeyond Apr 2013 #47

Ya, a lot of us do go around saying "see, see" without knowing what we are talking about. Threedifferentones Apr 2013 #61

the top brass at NYPD has been discouraging officers from reporting violent crime as such.... bettyellen Apr 2013 #25

i haven't and there's no reason to think it happens anymore now than in the past. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #35

well in NYC theres been this: bettyellen Apr 2013 #53

No reason to think underreporting happens any more than it did in the past. There has always HiPointDem Apr 2013 #56

This study includes both reported and unreported rapes. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #11

except this seems to be a survey of people dsc Apr 2013 #12

Do you believe rape is less reported today than previously? cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #13

I don't think there is much change in the average of rapes being reported justiceischeap Apr 2013 #15

money is tied into the number the police volunteerly give to FBI. forces are downgrading rape seabeyond Apr 2013 #17

This is from victimization surveys, not police departments. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #21

I posted upthread 1 in every 36 women college students in 1997 were raped. KitSileya Apr 2013 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Apr 2013 #39

here are a couple threads where we actually discuss the issue of manipulating the numbers instead of seabeyond Apr 2013 #20

You ought to actually read the BJS report. You'll find stuff in there that suits you. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #22

you want to know why more people are not cheering. common sense tell us otherwise. fact tells us seabeyond Apr 2013 #24

"Facts tell us otherwise." You're blatantly ignoring the facts, because you don't like what they say Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #29

I looked at your links. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #30

I have this one filed under 'S' Sea.. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #36

Most violent crimes have been trending downwards for years now. temporary311 Apr 2013 #23

Good news if true, but I wonder if rape reporting has to do with this. Dash87 Apr 2013 #27

Problems with their numbers A Little Weird Apr 2013 #31

Got a link for that? Because I looked at the study's methodology... Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #32

No A Little Weird Apr 2013 #37

I imagine some people are indeed comforted that they are drowning in only 20 feet of water... LanternWaste Apr 2013 #40

Men raping women is static. It doesn't change, IMO. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #41

Okay, you've made me curious enough to ask. 99Forever Apr 2013 #44

Please provide a link where I tried to stop "you horrible men" from raping......I'm waiting. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #48

I wasn't being snarky... 99Forever Apr 2013 #52

You can't just lob this turd into the pool and not explain it. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #50

The BJS purposefully excludes series victimization boston bean Apr 2013 #46

Here's a recent thread about the issue. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #49

That's certainly good news mythology Apr 2013 #58

Maybe mercuryblues Apr 2013 #59

Oh. Well, then. Iggo Apr 2013 #60