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Triana

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:02 AM Apr 2013

Social Security belongs to the American people. It is not Obama's to bargain with. [View all]

Last edited Thu Apr 11, 2013, 05:49 PM - Edit history (5)

I voted for Barack Obama twice, however I can no longer defend him since he is advocating unfair and unnecessary cuts to Social Security.

President Obama OWES the American people a clear explanation:

• WHY he is choosing to advocate for cutting SS after repeatedly promising not to?

• WHY he is buying into the debt/deficit propaganda and the austerity bullshit when it's clear that austerity has not worked anywhere else in the world and when virtually EVERY economist says it's JOBS that ought be priority #1 for fixing the economy, NOT cuts!

• WHY he is insisting in coupling the need to "do something" about SS with talks about the deficit, when SS has not added ONE CENT to the deficit. Talks about any "fixes" to SS ought to be separated from debt talks and any fixes to SS can wait since the program is fully solvent for at least another 20 years. Why now?

• WHY he insists on CUTTING SS when other options that most Americans support and which are MUCH less damaging are available - such as raising or removing the FICA cap, or raising FICA tax rates - yet these options are NEVER mentioned or discussed by his admin. Why is that?

Social Security IS OUR MONEY. It is not an "entitlement". It is an EARNED BENEFIT and we have every right to an explanation as to WHY this president is CHOOSING to "bargain" it away in some unnecessary, immoral, unfair, and ill-conceived plan which we know has its roots in a group of very wealthy men who have sought to destroy the program since it was created. WHY is he helping them do it?

President Obama needs to be cornered with these questions. Preferably by some very angry voters who supported his (re)election - however I doubt he has the guts to face them after what he's done on this issue - which he surely knows is wrong, unfair, and grossly immoral.

It is unconscionable to force our nation's elderly, sick, disabled vets, and our poor to suffer even more to pay down a debt which THEY didn't create and which Social Security hasn't added one cent to.

I KNOW this president knows better than this. The American people certainly do. But he likely won't face them on this issue. I wonder how he can even face himself.

He's lost my support. If I wanted policies like this, I'd have voted Republican. I don't want them. I didn't vote for them. And I never will.



In the clip above, Barack Obama said:

"John McCain's campaign has suggested that the best answer for the growing pressures on Social Security might be to cut cost of living adjustments or raise the retirement age. Let me be clear: I will not do either."


In regards to this, a friend commented thusly: "I find him scary, because his image/words/speeches do not match his deeds."

This comment says a lot. I've had people in my life like this: Jekyll-Hyde types. They were two-faced, not trustworthy. You don't want them in your life and you don't want them in power. President Obama's Jekyll-Hyde problem in regards to Social Security is one example of why.

We expect Republicans to conscienceless and diabolical. Not Democrats. And that's what this proposal to cut Social Security is: conscienceless and diabolical. Particularly so since it was Democrats who created and have consistently protected this program. And mark my words, Republicans will use Obama's willingness to cut it as part of their 2014 campaign against Democrats. They've already started.

I wrote previously about Pete Peterson and his "Fix the Debt" lobbying apparatus, and about how Obama's two appointments to the "catfood commission" are its top leaders - Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles. You can see my post about that and other issues here.

Though he made these appointments, perhaps many people thought that they were just some sort of window dressing and that surely a Democratic President would not seriously advocate cutting Social Security. No Democrat has ever done that. They were wrong about him. I was wrong about him.

This issue is a defining one for Barack Obama and his betrayal is worse than just betrayal. It's a Chicago gangster-style knife in back of the majority of Americans for no reason other than achieving a "grand bargain" with obstinate Republicans who've been hellbent on destroying Obama, Social Security and this country practically since their existence.

I can assure President Obama that Americans do not appreciate his presumptuously bargaining away their retirement savings needlessly and unfairly as part of a package to appease the most extreme, greedy, dangerous, unethical, hostage-taking, uncompromising contingent of our government and business sectors who want their hands on our money, and have for decades.

These money-hoarding, greed-driven factions don't care if any middle-class or poor Americans live or die from one day to the next. But most Americans rightly expect an allegedly Democratic President to care. It turns out he doesn't. Some goddamned "grand bargain" with the most greed-driven, impossible and unproductive contingent that has ever existed in Congress is more important to him.

And there's no other reason for this. None. Well, except this one, very nicely pointed out by TheNation magazine:

In fact, there is an even bigger lie concealed by the fiscal scolds and ignored by witless media, too. Again and again, self-righteous critics have portrayed Social Security as the profligate monster borrowing from the Treasury and sucking the life out of federal government. Guess what? It's the other way around. The federal government borrows from Social Security. The Treasury has been borrowing from the Social Security Trust Fund for 30 years, and the debt to Social Security beneficiaries now totals nearly $3 trillion. The day is approaching when that money will be needed for its original purpose: paying Social Security benefits to the working people who contributed to the fund.

That is the real crisis that makes the financial barons and their media collaborators so anxious to cut Social Security benefits. They would like to get out of repaying the debt—that is, giving the money back to the people who earned it. The only way to do this is cut the benefits—over and over again. Count on it. If the president and Congress succeed in this malicious scheme, they will come back again and again to cut more and more. If the politicians join this sordid conspiracy, voters should come after them with pitchforks and torches.


You can read the entire article here: http://www.thenation.com/blog/173771/will-voters-forgive-obama-cutting-social-security

And as for the question of whether voters will forgive Obama for cutting Social Security - the answer is a resounding: "HELL NO!"

Social Security belongs to the American people. It's OURS. It does not belong to President Obama or Wall St. It is not HIS or THEIRS to bargain with.

How dare you Mr. President.

© 2013 Seven Bowie

SOURCE: http://www.sevenbowie.com/2013/04/social-security-belongs-to-the-american-people-it-is-not-obamas-to-bargain-with-how-dare-you-mr-president/

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"How dare you Mr. President." SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #1
+100000 woo me with science Apr 2013 #50
K&R Scuba Apr 2013 #2
Excellent post Oilwellian Apr 2013 #3
That is woo me with science Apr 2013 #4
"...Chicago gangster-style knife in back..." alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #5
Two words - Revelations/antiChrist xtraxritical Apr 2013 #40
One word loudsue Apr 2013 #109
so true! wendylaroux Apr 2013 #6
They ARE listening. To the rich.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #61
Nancy Pelosi is not calling this a "cut". Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #7
Horse shit. We all know this is a cut. COLA adjustments downward are cuts. n/t Triana Apr 2013 #8
What about the poorest elderly? Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #12
It's great that such protections might be included. However.... Triana Apr 2013 #15
Population growth in America has been below Zero for many years now. Cuts are not necessary. DhhD Apr 2013 #17
I don't know where your're getting that. OnlinePoker Apr 2013 #44
Yeah great Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #19
Fuck "PROTECTIONS" from the President's policies. woo me with science Apr 2013 #27
Right on!!! lark Apr 2013 #42
The "protections" ( I read them) are A JOKE.. and you are correct! tokenlib Apr 2013 #83
I agree with YOU. We should be raising the payouts, not making cuts AllyCat Apr 2013 #86
Why cut from others who are not much better off to accomplish that? Where are your posts from the Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #18
It's interesting that you would allow the poorest to suffer Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #22
"allowing"? Why are we getting a Sophie's Choice when it is NOT necessary? djean111 Apr 2013 #23
Now *THIS* is hiding behind the poor. Marr Apr 2013 #25
Amen. woo me with science Apr 2013 #28
Thanks. Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #35
Your straw man needs some work little "Republoprog" Dragonfli Apr 2013 #62
The poor now get food stamps, rent subsidies and other programs that JDPriestly Apr 2013 #90
Yep. It's a shell game. unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #101
You're assuming that those protections won't be negotiated out of the bill dflprincess Apr 2013 #30
Somebody else responded to your bull$hit on another thread brentspeak Apr 2013 #46
I agree with you completely. Further, all those calling for Obama's head are forgetting that we got Hoyt Apr 2013 #80
Do you think $1200-say $1700 is middle class? Or does it still qualify JDPriestly Apr 2013 #85
Will you centrist shills PLEASE quit pretending that Census "poverty" has something to do with REAL eridani Apr 2013 #103
Had not EVERY President for the last 40 years not fiddled with COLA calculations. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #29
And not a single one of them was dealing with the worst depression since the Great Depression eridani Apr 2013 #104
Keeping the 'powder' dry I see....n/t haikugal Apr 2013 #33
If it is not a "cut," why is Obama pushing for it? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #36
Nancy may find herself with a Democratic challenger--a real Democrat! emsimon33 Apr 2013 #64
Don't flatter yourself Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #66
Are you saying you are not a real Democrat and onlty faux Democrats voted in 2010? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #78
What I notice about the corporate "Democrats" dflprincess Apr 2013 #92
LOL emsimon33 Apr 2013 #118
She is rich. What does she care? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #84
"strengthening of Social Security" - will be interesting to see how many fall-in with that? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #117
K&R. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #9
K/R Great article. Autumn Apr 2013 #10
K & R Ganja Ninja Apr 2013 #11
K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #13
Absolutely! It's our money...not a Poker Chip! Recommend KoKo Apr 2013 #14
Wonderful post! Agree 100% byeya Apr 2013 #16
AMEN. K&R closeupready Apr 2013 #20
Agree: K&R Paper Roses Apr 2013 #21
Look at what he surrounds himself with. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #24
After this shit I am wondering what unpleasant surprises might come up with ACA. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #26
What is the problem? earthside Apr 2013 #31
Perhaps the only point of it is to peel off a couple of Republicans to vote for revenue increases. randome Apr 2013 #68
We are all speculating ... earthside Apr 2013 #71
I think that his father abandoning him dgibby Apr 2013 #81
That makes as much sense as anything else. earthside Apr 2013 #87
K&R!!!! haikugal Apr 2013 #32
Actually, we own EVERYTHING, ... as long as we fight for it, Festivito Apr 2013 #34
The whole reason I wrote this .... Triana Apr 2013 #37
We're fighting, fighting hard for this ONE CRUMB! Festivito Apr 2013 #45
We aren't the people that matter lark Apr 2013 #47
K&R - with !!!!! + 1000snds (n/t) bread_and_roses Apr 2013 #38
Wow think_critically Apr 2013 #39
"they need to blame themselves"... ljm2002 Apr 2013 #52
"There is no getting around it" AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #53
You obviously didn't read my post upthread about fixing official rates of inflation. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #54
The Chained CPI calculation *assumes* an ever lowering standard of living. Marr Apr 2013 #60
+1 treestar Apr 2013 #77
It belongs to us, it is not yours to bargain with The Blue Flower Apr 2013 #41
higher taxes think_critically Apr 2013 #43
False flag lark Apr 2013 #51
We already do, Have been since 1983, the tax increase was specifically implemented Dragonfli Apr 2013 #65
The ignorant young need to understand that FICA was DOUBLED in 1983 eridani Apr 2013 #105
Very Well Said supercats Apr 2013 #48
K and R Liberalynn Apr 2013 #49
Oh Hell yes! n/t 99Forever Apr 2013 #55
Well said, Triana. colorado_ufo Apr 2013 #56
Politicians both right and left for decades used to be mindful of not scaring old folks avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #57
'How dare he' is correct. This sense of entitlement these politicians have is truly upsetting. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #58
Agree w/ all you said. And yes speaking of "entitlement"... Triana Apr 2013 #59
+100000 I complained a while back woo me with science Apr 2013 #73
"too many of these clowns seem to have forgotten that they work for us." Triana Apr 2013 #79
K&R emsimon33 Apr 2013 #63
It's a good thing that Obama was elected from Illinois and not Blagojevich. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #67
BINGO! kentuck Apr 2013 #69
Why? zentrum Apr 2013 #70
So do torture camps, for-profit health scams and criminal banks just1voice Apr 2013 #72
Why is it tha there is usually only one person who gives a damn? truedelphi Apr 2013 #74
Double Amen! What hutzpah! Its not "HIS" to compromise! Peregrine Took Apr 2013 #75
Correct. I sent him an email weeks ago that said "It's not yours to 'bargain' with" whathehell Apr 2013 #89
Yet another thread on this treestar Apr 2013 #76
I can't believe what I am reading here. Is there some contest going on to see who can be asjr Apr 2013 #82
Nice post. I'm starting to think that everyone with the capacity to reason Number23 Apr 2013 #88
Complacency.... Triana Apr 2013 #91
I rest my case. asjr Apr 2013 #94
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #95
Oh, aren't you the vicious rage insulter. Cha Apr 2013 #100
A lot of the same people were trashing him before this.. Cha Apr 2013 #99
Recommend jsr Apr 2013 #93
Amazing post. Thank you! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #96
If the consequences weren't so bad, I would actually be enjoying the moment. Beacool Apr 2013 #97
The other candidate was a corporatist as well eridani Apr 2013 #106
Wrong Clinton. Beacool Apr 2013 #112
Goddamn right! Blue Owl Apr 2013 #98
K & R AzDar Apr 2013 #102
i think your expectations of democrats is unwarranted. tomp Apr 2013 #107
Wow! What a GREAT paragraph! This says it all... loudsue Apr 2013 #108
Yep. I cannot believe this is now on the table and being commingled with the deficit. myrna minx Apr 2013 #110
"It's now in the bloodstream with pundits gleefully calling for it's eventual inevitability." Triana Apr 2013 #111
The new spin on this very site is that even if it does pass, its not too bad. myrna minx Apr 2013 #114
Well written and backed up with data. fasttense Apr 2013 #113
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Apr 2013 #115
kick woo me with science Apr 2013 #116
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