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29. He proposes

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:22 AM

Apr 2013

"where's the ambiguity? This is the President's budget proposal."

...almost the equivalent amount every year, and Congress sends him a budget with additional funding.

Maine Congressional Delegation Decries Proposed LIHEAP Cuts
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x414930

EXCLUSIVE: White House to Cut Energy Assistance for the Poor
http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/exclusive-obama-to-cut-energy-assistance-for-the-poor-20110209

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Obama budget proposal slashes LIHEAP funds [View all] cali Apr 2013 OP

Countdown to the apologist defense in 4...3...2... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #1

And the hits just keep on coming. Autumn Apr 2013 #2

Kiss the senate and congress xxqqqzme Apr 2013 #87

A budget shows the moral Nite Owl Apr 2013 #3

But, but, but if we tak eon the corporations...to big to fail... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #17

Bright side: Seniors won't have to choose between heating and food anymore kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #4

You know, I'd laugh if I wasn't crying. myrna minx Apr 2013 #11

Next will be a gov. offered voucher on affordable caskets for the poor, the old and the sick. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #26

Voucher? That sounds a lot like freeloading to me! kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #52

... or possibly "Soylent Green!" Donate now, feed the worlds' hungry and impoverished! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #68

When wealthy people buy refrigerators, russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #57

The messages I get are if you are poor, fuck you. If old, go die! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #5

+1000 forestpath Apr 2013 #10

Yep, that's about it....Nice message from our supposed "Democratic" president, huh? whathehell Apr 2013 #19

I'm really fed up with jumping up and down for Obama right or wrong. Yep, he's done RKP5637 Apr 2013 #21

Okay. whathehell Apr 2013 #93

I have to say, I never expected to see this from a Democratically elected President liberal N proud Apr 2013 #6

The country is collapsing for "we the people." Many Americans still don't get what is RKP5637 Apr 2013 #27

That's really sad. Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Armstead Apr 2013 #8

They can burn catfood labels to keep warm. forestpath Apr 2013 #9

Let them eat Global Warming IDemo Apr 2013 #15

"That�s down from $5.1 billion in fiscal 2010. " ProSense Apr 2013 #12

As I read it this is HIS budget proposal...Not what has gone through Congress Armstead Apr 2013 #13

? n/t ProSense Apr 2013 #14

You passed the buck to Congress. But this is the buck he is starting with as his proposed budget. Armstead Apr 2013 #23

The President's budget isn't ProSense Apr 2013 #31

Let me $pell it out for $o that it make$ $en$e to you...this is OBAMA'S proposal... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #33

Save the caps, because you clearly ProSense Apr 2013 #34

Ye$, actually I do... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #37

How about ProSense Apr 2013 #38

Plea$e explain what you're fucking point i$? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #41

Nice deconstruction, demolition and dismemberment. bvar22 Apr 2013 #42

I don't understand the simple point you are making because you are deflecting. Armstead Apr 2013 #40

The President ProSense Apr 2013 #50

So he's suggesting cuts in LIHEAP again.....which is what the OP says...and you continue to defend.. truebrit71 Apr 2013 #54

Yes, "he's suggesting cuts in LIHEAP again" ProSense Apr 2013 #59

And if they don't too bad, right? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #61

But you still haven't answered my question Armstead Apr 2013 #56

Actually, I did ProSense Apr 2013 #63

Okay. So you agree that it is not a good thing to do, although you see the reasoning for it. Armstead Apr 2013 #80

the energy spike is over? dsc Apr 2013 #72

oh, I think we all understand your lame point, hon. cali Apr 2013 #49

You really shouldn't ProSense Apr 2013 #64

They didn't attempt to call you deliberately obtuse..they DID call you deliberately obtuse... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #69

This from someone who can't understand a simple fucking point. n/t ProSense Apr 2013 #81

Because energy prices have dropped since 2009. randome Apr 2013 #55

Not according to this... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #58

Yeah, well, that's Massachusetts. Not the entire country. randome Apr 2013 #62

The entire country doesn't use or need LIHEAP...the North-East does.. truebrit71 Apr 2013 #67

I don't see it that way. randome Apr 2013 #70

But energy prices are NOT going down... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #73

But LIHEAP pays for more than just heating oil. randome Apr 2013 #75

where's the ambiguity? This is the President's budget proposal. cali Apr 2013 #16

He proposes ProSense Apr 2013 #29

Was there outrage on this in 2010? Not that I recall. randome Apr 2013 #39

yes. lots and lots. cali Apr 2013 #44

I recall the last time this was brought up there was much outrage...and the u$ual defen$e... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #48

At long last, have you left no sense of decency? The Link Apr 2013 #51

Get over yourself. ProSense Apr 2013 #53

This is my objection to your entire argument Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #76

LIHEAP is a states grant program. randome Apr 2013 #77

You know the one thing they like more than money is power Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #82

You may be right. But all this 'hate Obama' stuff is premature until something like that happens. randome Apr 2013 #84

WTF are you blathering about? This is HIS PROPOSAL Maven Apr 2013 #86

May I ask WTF you're blathering about? ProSense Apr 2013 #88

No, to the twisted spaghetti code that makes up your Centrist Processing Unit Maven Apr 2013 #89

Woohoo! progressoid Apr 2013 #18

Yep, change you can count on - suckers and marks!!! RKP5637 Apr 2013 #28

pocket change. chump change. crumbs. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #47

Liheap was already slashed to <9,900/year income I think 2 years ago magical thyme Apr 2013 #20

Don't give him any ideas. n/t magellan Apr 2013 #22

I remember living very well on 9,900 a year n2doc Apr 2013 #25

Maybe one of the rah rah types can explain why this is a good thing n2doc Apr 2013 #24

All over the map because he won't drive a stake in the ground and say this is RKP5637 Apr 2013 #30

Oh, they're here already.... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #35

The two main talking points from rah1 and rah2 are.... Dragonfli Apr 2013 #94

Pfffft! Heat is so over-rated! Put on a sweater, Grandma. bullwinkle428 Apr 2013 #32

Of course it does. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #36

Well that's certainly progressive...Socialist? LMAO! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #43

Gee thanks. We elected a DINO. Great. Fearless Apr 2013 #45

Yeah, but LIHOP funding is doubled cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #46

Caring about the poor is sooooo last century. L0oniX Apr 2013 #60

Energy prices have dropped. Thus, the proposed reduction. randome Apr 2013 #65

What does that link have to do with the price of heating oil... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #71

So far as I know, LIHEAP pays for heating assistance, not just heating oil. randome Apr 2013 #74

your are right CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #78

But if energy prices in general have declined, the same level of assistance... randome Apr 2013 #83

I haven't seen my electric, propane or gas bill go down.... ohheckyeah Apr 2013 #95

Now that is rough CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #66

Come on Grandma JEB Apr 2013 #79

Grover Norquist would be so proud. Maven Apr 2013 #85

He's calling CCPI a tax increase. randome Apr 2013 #91

Of course. Maven Apr 2013 #92

Frozen cat food is crunchy. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #90