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Arcanetrance

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76. This is my objection to your entire argument

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 12:45 PM

Apr 2013

You say the president has proposed the cuts before and Congress rejected them. Does that change the fact they were proposed to begin with no it doesn't. It just means he got lucky while gambling with other people's lives. What happens if they don't reject it. To be honest if I was a Republican I would accept every damn cut he proposes. Because what Obama is proposing would kill our party now and for many years to come.

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Obama budget proposal slashes LIHEAP funds [View all] cali Apr 2013 OP

Countdown to the apologist defense in 4...3...2... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #1

And the hits just keep on coming. Autumn Apr 2013 #2

Kiss the senate and congress xxqqqzme Apr 2013 #87

A budget shows the moral Nite Owl Apr 2013 #3

But, but, but if we tak eon the corporations...to big to fail... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #17

Bright side: Seniors won't have to choose between heating and food anymore kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #4

You know, I'd laugh if I wasn't crying. myrna minx Apr 2013 #11

Next will be a gov. offered voucher on affordable caskets for the poor, the old and the sick. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #26

Voucher? That sounds a lot like freeloading to me! kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #52

... or possibly "Soylent Green!" Donate now, feed the worlds' hungry and impoverished! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #68

When wealthy people buy refrigerators, russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #57

The messages I get are if you are poor, fuck you. If old, go die! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #5

+1000 forestpath Apr 2013 #10

Yep, that's about it....Nice message from our supposed "Democratic" president, huh? whathehell Apr 2013 #19

I'm really fed up with jumping up and down for Obama right or wrong. Yep, he's done RKP5637 Apr 2013 #21

Okay. whathehell Apr 2013 #93

I have to say, I never expected to see this from a Democratically elected President liberal N proud Apr 2013 #6

The country is collapsing for "we the people." Many Americans still don't get what is RKP5637 Apr 2013 #27

That's really sad. Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Armstead Apr 2013 #8

They can burn catfood labels to keep warm. forestpath Apr 2013 #9

Let them eat Global Warming IDemo Apr 2013 #15

"That�s down from $5.1 billion in fiscal 2010. " ProSense Apr 2013 #12

As I read it this is HIS budget proposal...Not what has gone through Congress Armstead Apr 2013 #13

? n/t ProSense Apr 2013 #14

You passed the buck to Congress. But this is the buck he is starting with as his proposed budget. Armstead Apr 2013 #23

The President's budget isn't ProSense Apr 2013 #31

Let me $pell it out for $o that it make$ $en$e to you...this is OBAMA'S proposal... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #33

Save the caps, because you clearly ProSense Apr 2013 #34

Ye$, actually I do... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #37

How about ProSense Apr 2013 #38

Plea$e explain what you're fucking point i$? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #41

Nice deconstruction, demolition and dismemberment. bvar22 Apr 2013 #42

I don't understand the simple point you are making because you are deflecting. Armstead Apr 2013 #40

The President ProSense Apr 2013 #50

So he's suggesting cuts in LIHEAP again.....which is what the OP says...and you continue to defend.. truebrit71 Apr 2013 #54

Yes, "he's suggesting cuts in LIHEAP again" ProSense Apr 2013 #59

And if they don't too bad, right? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #61

But you still haven't answered my question Armstead Apr 2013 #56

Actually, I did ProSense Apr 2013 #63

Okay. So you agree that it is not a good thing to do, although you see the reasoning for it. Armstead Apr 2013 #80

the energy spike is over? dsc Apr 2013 #72

oh, I think we all understand your lame point, hon. cali Apr 2013 #49

You really shouldn't ProSense Apr 2013 #64

They didn't attempt to call you deliberately obtuse..they DID call you deliberately obtuse... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #69

This from someone who can't understand a simple fucking point. n/t ProSense Apr 2013 #81

Because energy prices have dropped since 2009. randome Apr 2013 #55

Not according to this... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #58

Yeah, well, that's Massachusetts. Not the entire country. randome Apr 2013 #62

The entire country doesn't use or need LIHEAP...the North-East does.. truebrit71 Apr 2013 #67

I don't see it that way. randome Apr 2013 #70

But energy prices are NOT going down... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #73

But LIHEAP pays for more than just heating oil. randome Apr 2013 #75

where's the ambiguity? This is the President's budget proposal. cali Apr 2013 #16

He proposes ProSense Apr 2013 #29

Was there outrage on this in 2010? Not that I recall. randome Apr 2013 #39

yes. lots and lots. cali Apr 2013 #44

I recall the last time this was brought up there was much outrage...and the u$ual defen$e... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #48

At long last, have you left no sense of decency? The Link Apr 2013 #51

Get over yourself. ProSense Apr 2013 #53

This is my objection to your entire argument Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #76

LIHEAP is a states grant program. randome Apr 2013 #77

You know the one thing they like more than money is power Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #82

You may be right. But all this 'hate Obama' stuff is premature until something like that happens. randome Apr 2013 #84

WTF are you blathering about? This is HIS PROPOSAL Maven Apr 2013 #86

May I ask WTF you're blathering about? ProSense Apr 2013 #88

No, to the twisted spaghetti code that makes up your Centrist Processing Unit Maven Apr 2013 #89

Woohoo! progressoid Apr 2013 #18

Yep, change you can count on - suckers and marks!!! RKP5637 Apr 2013 #28

pocket change. chump change. crumbs. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #47

Liheap was already slashed to <9,900/year income I think 2 years ago magical thyme Apr 2013 #20

Don't give him any ideas. n/t magellan Apr 2013 #22

I remember living very well on 9,900 a year n2doc Apr 2013 #25

Maybe one of the rah rah types can explain why this is a good thing n2doc Apr 2013 #24

All over the map because he won't drive a stake in the ground and say this is RKP5637 Apr 2013 #30

Oh, they're here already.... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #35

The two main talking points from rah1 and rah2 are.... Dragonfli Apr 2013 #94

Pfffft! Heat is so over-rated! Put on a sweater, Grandma. bullwinkle428 Apr 2013 #32

Of course it does. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #36

Well that's certainly progressive...Socialist? LMAO! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #43

Gee thanks. We elected a DINO. Great. Fearless Apr 2013 #45

Yeah, but LIHOP funding is doubled cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #46

Caring about the poor is sooooo last century. L0oniX Apr 2013 #60

Energy prices have dropped. Thus, the proposed reduction. randome Apr 2013 #65

What does that link have to do with the price of heating oil... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #71

So far as I know, LIHEAP pays for heating assistance, not just heating oil. randome Apr 2013 #74

your are right CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #78

But if energy prices in general have declined, the same level of assistance... randome Apr 2013 #83

I haven't seen my electric, propane or gas bill go down.... ohheckyeah Apr 2013 #95

Now that is rough CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #66

Come on Grandma JEB Apr 2013 #79

Grover Norquist would be so proud. Maven Apr 2013 #85

He's calling CCPI a tax increase. randome Apr 2013 #91

Of course. Maven Apr 2013 #92

Frozen cat food is crunchy. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #90