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randome

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2. If they propose NO cuts, nothing will get done for at least 2 more years.

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:09 PM

Apr 2013

Proposing a very minor change -with exceptions for certain low incomes- is probably the least they could find to simply get the process moving.

No cuts have been made. I doubt anything will survive the House or Senate. This was only to get the process started, IMO.

I am tired of the 'hate Obama' crowd leaping to excoriate the man who gave us Obamacare, gay rights, gun control and a consistent push for equitable taxation.

He may not be perfect but I think he deserves the benefit of a doubt.

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White House:We only proposed cuts to SS because the GOP asked us to WTF!!!! [View all] bigdarryl Apr 2013 OP

No one could have predicted... JHB Apr 2013 #1

Great graphic! AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #4

Pretty much Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #14

He gave them what they want, but they won't give him what he wants, so no deal. alfredo Apr 2013 #80

My ass. The budget he presented is what he wants. Myrina Apr 2013 #85

Ryan has already said he will not give on anything. I don't think Obama's budget alfredo Apr 2013 #87

Never the less Sherman A1 Apr 2013 #91

with very fancing binding, I might add. robinlynne Apr 2013 #101

There is another poison pill the Reps won't swallow, that is raising the minimum wage to $9. alfredo Apr 2013 #119

Exactly! AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #104

I'd be ROTFLMAO if this wasn't so sad Liberalynn Apr 2013 #25

perfect image. magical thyme Apr 2013 #77

If they propose NO cuts, nothing will get done for at least 2 more years. randome Apr 2013 #2

I grudgingly agree, especially when we MUST end the sequester cuts asap flamingdem Apr 2013 #3

Everyone acts like Obama is the only part of the budget process. randome Apr 2013 #15

stop acting like Obama is a fucking bystander Skittles Apr 2013 #67

Thats what makes this all the more baffling quakerboy Apr 2013 #71

I think (I don't know) that he wanted to peel off a few Repubs from the House. randome Apr 2013 #73

No handthrowing here quakerboy Apr 2013 #126

He's been dangling the CPI (Catfood Price Index) since the debates. Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #83

He hasn't 'given' them anything. randome Apr 2013 #96

PBO is the leader of the Democratic Party GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #88

I wish he hadn't done so. I think it's a mistake to have done so. randome Apr 2013 #95

Yes, I agree we should hold our representatives accountable GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #112

Minor!!! tell that to a 85 year old who lives ONLY off of Social Security bigdarryl Apr 2013 #5

There must be some very wealthy folks posting here to be able to shrug off myrna minx Apr 2013 #10

Did you not see the "-with exceptions for certain low incomes-" part of my post? randome Apr 2013 #11

Yeah, if you manage to make it to 85 you'll get bumped back Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #58

It's still just a way to get the process started. randome Apr 2013 #69

It's a sure fire way to hand both houses to the repukes in 2014. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #78

I hope it's not THAT much of a miscalculation. randome Apr 2013 #81

I'm sorry, but this post is truly apologetic. GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #97

That's not what it says. enlightenment Apr 2013 #105

You're right, I don't know what those phrases are intended to mean. randome Apr 2013 #110

Randome, enlightenment Apr 2013 #113

It seemed that way to me, though. randome Apr 2013 #120

Reasonable. enlightenment Apr 2013 #123

+1 HarmonyRockets Apr 2013 #121

Nothing's going to get done anyway, so why give them this gift. n/t Laurian Apr 2013 #18

What gift? No cuts have happened or are likely to happen. randome Apr 2013 #22

It's a political gift. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #26

Norquist is calling it a tax increase. randome Apr 2013 #28

"the man who gave us Obamacare gayrights, gun control and a consistent push for equitable taxation." Scuba Apr 2013 #24

I guess you won't benefit from health care, are not gay, don't care about Newtown... randome Apr 2013 #43

Actually ... Scuba Apr 2013 #63

He's pushing for all those things. randome Apr 2013 #64

Thank you Scuba GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #117

You feeling it to Scuba? n/t GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #116

To complicate things, Democrats favor 'compromise' (in general) more than republicans pampango Apr 2013 #33

This has always been the problem. We liberals are not representative of the entire Democratic party. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #92

You cannot be serious. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #34

Are those not accomplishments? randome Apr 2013 #44

Some no. Some yes. Some we have yet to see. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #70

You're right, not all of those are 'accomplishments'. randome Apr 2013 #76

The elderly and retired are being SO selfish! bvar22 Apr 2013 #35

Obama does not control the budgetary process. randome Apr 2013 #41

President Obama DOES control the Bully Pulpit, bvar22 Apr 2013 #53

So where are those people now? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #94

He HAS used the bully pulpit on gay rights, gun control, equitable taxation, etc. randome Apr 2013 #98

And I'm standing right there with you, dgibby Apr 2013 #114

"This was only to get the process started, IMO" AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #36

And if any actual cuts -other than hypothetical ones- get through the entire budgetary process... randome Apr 2013 #40

Obama went there AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #42

Not enough to vote Republican, I'll wager. randome Apr 2013 #52

Obama went there AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #56

Bush tried to privatize SS. randome Apr 2013 #72

"The third rail of politics" AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #74

I don't like it, either, and I don't want to be in the position of saying it's right. randome Apr 2013 #79

Gee, I dunno. How about cutting the military instead? progressoid Apr 2013 #47

I'd rather accomplish nothing than "accomplish" something harmful. winter is coming Apr 2013 #65

So we get dragged to the right.... haikugal Apr 2013 #6

Well then Mr President are you working for the Republicans or working for the American people? avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #7

How many dinners did Obama have with Democrats? TheProgressive Apr 2013 #16

...How many meetings has he had with progressive media? avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #27

How many members of the Progressive Caucus... bvar22 Apr 2013 #62

Wouldn't it be grand if... unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #8

Wouldn't it be grand if... randome Apr 2013 #17

Well, I'm pretty damn sure the GOP wants you to write me a check for Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #9

Why don't they do what progressives tell them to do rather than what the GOP tells them to do? Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #12

Just ignore the Republican controlled House of Representatives, then, right? randome Apr 2013 #20

Don't ignore them - Tie progressive policies around their necks Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #32

I think that's a better tactic, too. That's probably what I would do. randome Apr 2013 #48

Money Money Money HangOnKids Apr 2013 #100

Money is not involved in pushing for gay rights, gun control and revenue increases. randome Apr 2013 #103

Jayzus X-mas. Triana Apr 2013 #13

And if the GOP asked you to jump off a bridge? eShirl Apr 2013 #19

So they're saying Obama does what the GOP ask, not what's best for Americans? magellan Apr 2013 #21

+1 Liberalynn Apr 2013 #29

You do know that Republicans control the House, right? randome Apr 2013 #31

No!! Really?? magellan Apr 2013 #39

No 'talking down' intended. randome Apr 2013 #45

Evil? No. magellan Apr 2013 #61

I understand where you're coming from. randome Apr 2013 #66

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying into the fear tactics any more magellan Apr 2013 #75

Agree. Lame and a LIE. NCarolinawoman Apr 2013 #60

^^ This post, right here, for the win ^^ Myrina Apr 2013 #86

They double dog dared him to do it!nt. bravenak Apr 2013 #23

Unfuckingbelievable. City Lights Apr 2013 #30

So much for the oft- repeated "B-b-but he KNEW they wouldn't ACCEPT it!!!1!" talking point. NEXT? forestpath Apr 2013 #37

But I read this morning that you "hate" Obama HangOnKids Apr 2013 #102

ROFL. Their Homecoming King keeps yanking their talking points right out from under 'em. forestpath Apr 2013 #108

Obama is getting very ill-served by his "advisers" (whatever that means) Boomerproud Apr 2013 #38

He's had breakfast with his advisors this morning. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #50

He caved again. Or, should that be "as usual"? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #46

Is it too early to start drinking? progressoid Apr 2013 #49

President Obama who i adore seems to do these kinds of things samsingh Apr 2013 #51

Perfect, this will make for great ads LOL snooper2 Apr 2013 #54

Great leadership Nite Owl Apr 2013 #55

that should have been the first sign that it was a bad fucking idea........ bowens43 Apr 2013 #57

PO used that GOP request to SHOW EVERYONE how the GOP opposes Universal Pre-K patrice Apr 2013 #59

Republicans want the retirement age raised to age 70 too. neverforget Apr 2013 #68

We've been going about this the wrong way. We should contact the WH, winter is coming Apr 2013 #82

lol Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #90

Amen Brother bigdarryl, Am-the fuck-en. I can hardly believe it. GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #84

Well, if the GOP asked you to jump on the Empire State Building, would you? KansDem Apr 2013 #89

He probably would Janecita Apr 2013 #99

It was an exercise in "audacity" to cave to the Republicans and "hope" the left would suck it up. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #93

Perfect!n/t HangOnKids Apr 2013 #107

Ever the victim, this WH plays that role well. Nothing but excuses and the blame game. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #106

Mr President... TDale313 Apr 2013 #109

A more helpful remark might to be hold his feet to the fire. randome Apr 2013 #111

Whatever. TDale313 Apr 2013 #118

Looks like people are pretty much holding all of him to the fire. winter is coming Apr 2013 #122

So, if the GOP asks you to jump off a clif... uh jump off the Empire State Building, woud you? 1monster Apr 2013 #115

Fuck the GOP -- repeat -- FUCK THE GOP Blue Owl Apr 2013 #124

Yeah and if your friends ask you to jump off a bridge you gonna do it? Autumn Apr 2013 #125