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randome

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120. It seemed that way to me, though.

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:15 PM

Apr 2013

That too many were giving up and seizing on the next available opportunity to trash the President.

When some posters are saying each and every day how terrible our lives must be and how disappointed they are by Obama, it's hard NOT to take an opposite stance when they point out something that SHOULD be pointed out.

It's like someone saying over and over again, "Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that."

When the opportunity arises, the first thing you want to do is whatever they've been telling you not to do.

But I've 'evolved' on this issue, as I usually do with any DU thread. I think Obama made a mistake and we should hold his feet to the fire. I don't agree with the sentiment, "See? Told you he was ALWAYS against us!"

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White House:We only proposed cuts to SS because the GOP asked us to WTF!!!! [View all] bigdarryl Apr 2013 OP

No one could have predicted... JHB Apr 2013 #1

Great graphic! AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #4

Pretty much Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #14

He gave them what they want, but they won't give him what he wants, so no deal. alfredo Apr 2013 #80

My ass. The budget he presented is what he wants. Myrina Apr 2013 #85

Ryan has already said he will not give on anything. I don't think Obama's budget alfredo Apr 2013 #87

Never the less Sherman A1 Apr 2013 #91

with very fancing binding, I might add. robinlynne Apr 2013 #101

There is another poison pill the Reps won't swallow, that is raising the minimum wage to $9. alfredo Apr 2013 #119

Exactly! AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #104

I'd be ROTFLMAO if this wasn't so sad Liberalynn Apr 2013 #25

perfect image. magical thyme Apr 2013 #77

If they propose NO cuts, nothing will get done for at least 2 more years. randome Apr 2013 #2

I grudgingly agree, especially when we MUST end the sequester cuts asap flamingdem Apr 2013 #3

Everyone acts like Obama is the only part of the budget process. randome Apr 2013 #15

stop acting like Obama is a fucking bystander Skittles Apr 2013 #67

Thats what makes this all the more baffling quakerboy Apr 2013 #71

I think (I don't know) that he wanted to peel off a few Repubs from the House. randome Apr 2013 #73

No handthrowing here quakerboy Apr 2013 #126

He's been dangling the CPI (Catfood Price Index) since the debates. Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #83

He hasn't 'given' them anything. randome Apr 2013 #96

PBO is the leader of the Democratic Party GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #88

I wish he hadn't done so. I think it's a mistake to have done so. randome Apr 2013 #95

Yes, I agree we should hold our representatives accountable GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #112

Minor!!! tell that to a 85 year old who lives ONLY off of Social Security bigdarryl Apr 2013 #5

There must be some very wealthy folks posting here to be able to shrug off myrna minx Apr 2013 #10

Did you not see the "-with exceptions for certain low incomes-" part of my post? randome Apr 2013 #11

Yeah, if you manage to make it to 85 you'll get bumped back Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #58

It's still just a way to get the process started. randome Apr 2013 #69

It's a sure fire way to hand both houses to the repukes in 2014. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #78

I hope it's not THAT much of a miscalculation. randome Apr 2013 #81

I'm sorry, but this post is truly apologetic. GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #97

That's not what it says. enlightenment Apr 2013 #105

You're right, I don't know what those phrases are intended to mean. randome Apr 2013 #110

Randome, enlightenment Apr 2013 #113

It seemed that way to me, though. randome Apr 2013 #120

Reasonable. enlightenment Apr 2013 #123

+1 HarmonyRockets Apr 2013 #121

Nothing's going to get done anyway, so why give them this gift. n/t Laurian Apr 2013 #18

What gift? No cuts have happened or are likely to happen. randome Apr 2013 #22

It's a political gift. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #26

Norquist is calling it a tax increase. randome Apr 2013 #28

"the man who gave us Obamacare gayrights, gun control and a consistent push for equitable taxation." Scuba Apr 2013 #24

I guess you won't benefit from health care, are not gay, don't care about Newtown... randome Apr 2013 #43

Actually ... Scuba Apr 2013 #63

He's pushing for all those things. randome Apr 2013 #64

Thank you Scuba GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #117

You feeling it to Scuba? n/t GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #116

To complicate things, Democrats favor 'compromise' (in general) more than republicans pampango Apr 2013 #33

This has always been the problem. We liberals are not representative of the entire Democratic party. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #92

You cannot be serious. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #34

Are those not accomplishments? randome Apr 2013 #44

Some no. Some yes. Some we have yet to see. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #70

You're right, not all of those are 'accomplishments'. randome Apr 2013 #76

The elderly and retired are being SO selfish! bvar22 Apr 2013 #35

Obama does not control the budgetary process. randome Apr 2013 #41

President Obama DOES control the Bully Pulpit, bvar22 Apr 2013 #53

So where are those people now? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #94

He HAS used the bully pulpit on gay rights, gun control, equitable taxation, etc. randome Apr 2013 #98

And I'm standing right there with you, dgibby Apr 2013 #114

"This was only to get the process started, IMO" AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #36

And if any actual cuts -other than hypothetical ones- get through the entire budgetary process... randome Apr 2013 #40

Obama went there AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #42

Not enough to vote Republican, I'll wager. randome Apr 2013 #52

Obama went there AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #56

Bush tried to privatize SS. randome Apr 2013 #72

"The third rail of politics" AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #74

I don't like it, either, and I don't want to be in the position of saying it's right. randome Apr 2013 #79

Gee, I dunno. How about cutting the military instead? progressoid Apr 2013 #47

I'd rather accomplish nothing than "accomplish" something harmful. winter is coming Apr 2013 #65

So we get dragged to the right.... haikugal Apr 2013 #6

Well then Mr President are you working for the Republicans or working for the American people? avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #7

How many dinners did Obama have with Democrats? TheProgressive Apr 2013 #16

...How many meetings has he had with progressive media? avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #27

How many members of the Progressive Caucus... bvar22 Apr 2013 #62

Wouldn't it be grand if... unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #8

Wouldn't it be grand if... randome Apr 2013 #17

Well, I'm pretty damn sure the GOP wants you to write me a check for Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #9

Why don't they do what progressives tell them to do rather than what the GOP tells them to do? Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #12

Just ignore the Republican controlled House of Representatives, then, right? randome Apr 2013 #20

Don't ignore them - Tie progressive policies around their necks Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #32

I think that's a better tactic, too. That's probably what I would do. randome Apr 2013 #48

Money Money Money HangOnKids Apr 2013 #100

Money is not involved in pushing for gay rights, gun control and revenue increases. randome Apr 2013 #103

Jayzus X-mas. Triana Apr 2013 #13

And if the GOP asked you to jump off a bridge? eShirl Apr 2013 #19

So they're saying Obama does what the GOP ask, not what's best for Americans? magellan Apr 2013 #21

+1 Liberalynn Apr 2013 #29

You do know that Republicans control the House, right? randome Apr 2013 #31

No!! Really?? magellan Apr 2013 #39

No 'talking down' intended. randome Apr 2013 #45

Evil? No. magellan Apr 2013 #61

I understand where you're coming from. randome Apr 2013 #66

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying into the fear tactics any more magellan Apr 2013 #75

Agree. Lame and a LIE. NCarolinawoman Apr 2013 #60

^^ This post, right here, for the win ^^ Myrina Apr 2013 #86

They double dog dared him to do it!nt. bravenak Apr 2013 #23

Unfuckingbelievable. City Lights Apr 2013 #30

So much for the oft- repeated "B-b-but he KNEW they wouldn't ACCEPT it!!!1!" talking point. NEXT? forestpath Apr 2013 #37

But I read this morning that you "hate" Obama HangOnKids Apr 2013 #102

ROFL. Their Homecoming King keeps yanking their talking points right out from under 'em. forestpath Apr 2013 #108

Obama is getting very ill-served by his "advisers" (whatever that means) Boomerproud Apr 2013 #38

He's had breakfast with his advisors this morning. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #50

He caved again. Or, should that be "as usual"? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #46

Is it too early to start drinking? progressoid Apr 2013 #49

President Obama who i adore seems to do these kinds of things samsingh Apr 2013 #51

Perfect, this will make for great ads LOL snooper2 Apr 2013 #54

Great leadership Nite Owl Apr 2013 #55

that should have been the first sign that it was a bad fucking idea........ bowens43 Apr 2013 #57

PO used that GOP request to SHOW EVERYONE how the GOP opposes Universal Pre-K patrice Apr 2013 #59

Republicans want the retirement age raised to age 70 too. neverforget Apr 2013 #68

We've been going about this the wrong way. We should contact the WH, winter is coming Apr 2013 #82

lol Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #90

Amen Brother bigdarryl, Am-the fuck-en. I can hardly believe it. GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #84

Well, if the GOP asked you to jump on the Empire State Building, would you? KansDem Apr 2013 #89

He probably would Janecita Apr 2013 #99

It was an exercise in "audacity" to cave to the Republicans and "hope" the left would suck it up. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #93

Perfect!n/t HangOnKids Apr 2013 #107

Ever the victim, this WH plays that role well. Nothing but excuses and the blame game. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #106

Mr President... TDale313 Apr 2013 #109

A more helpful remark might to be hold his feet to the fire. randome Apr 2013 #111

Whatever. TDale313 Apr 2013 #118

Looks like people are pretty much holding all of him to the fire. winter is coming Apr 2013 #122

So, if the GOP asks you to jump off a clif... uh jump off the Empire State Building, woud you? 1monster Apr 2013 #115

Fuck the GOP -- repeat -- FUCK THE GOP Blue Owl Apr 2013 #124

Yeah and if your friends ask you to jump off a bridge you gonna do it? Autumn Apr 2013 #125