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Cal Carpenter

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17. Thanks for the post

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:37 PM

Apr 2013

and you must have raised that kid right

There seem to be quite a few people who honestly believe we have an adequate 'safety net'. We don't. We have systemic poverty and it doesn't take a whole lot of looking (at statistics -or- actual people) to see it.

There are also people who have a tendency to nitpick the anecdotes of others (well, if you'd get a cheaper cell phone and get rid of your dog....) as though any of those decisions are easy, or would save enough to make a difference. They'll never admit it is systemic no matter the statistics, the trends, the 'macro' picture. Instead they blame the individual and push this mentality through pundits and propaganda.

One thing about being poor that really compromises people's 'freedom', is the lack of peace of mind that comes with economic insecurity. There are people who have no idea what that feels like.

I hope we see a day when NO ONE has to know what that feels like.

But these days, there are a lot of people who do. I suppose the only reassurance that offers is that you are not alone.

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Mocking old folks who are worried about paying their bills? [View all] Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 OP

Pretty gross, isn't it? gaspee Apr 2013 #1

Not to mention the condescension... chervilant Apr 2013 #108

Yes, it's rather callous and heartbreaking. People are hurting. There are those of us myrna minx Apr 2013 #2

Please link any post by a DUer mocking the elderly for ANY reason. nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #3

Alrighty then. From just today: 99Forever Apr 2013 #7

Don't forget the "poutrage" and "hissyfit" thread: woo me with science Apr 2013 #10

here's another more recent one: boilerbabe Apr 2013 #29

"Don't think that people aren't paying attention." Nailed! +1 green for victory Apr 2013 #31

Off topic but I like that color for my pedicure. Cleita Apr 2013 #49

Looks like an OPI bottle. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #87

Thanks. I think you are right. n/t Cleita Apr 2013 #91

This: sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #76

Thank you for the post. Three things: OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #102

I agree. Abby Huntsman was awful on Real Time last week. She was disrespectful and stupid. smokey nj Apr 2013 #150

You were just presented several excellent examples. Marr Apr 2013 #39

Just FYI, but we just went through a series of severe weather alerts to include a tornado warning... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #46

... Marr Apr 2013 #50

I see a lot of the usual DU back-and-forth between groups that clearly don't like each other, .... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #59

Then you're intellectually dishonest and not worth having an exchange with. Marr Apr 2013 #60

"Intellectually dishonest"? Really? I will have a VERY nice day shortly after.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #64

Sorry but I read thru them and couldn't find anyone mocking old people Cooley Hurd Apr 2013 #123

The whole THEME of those threads was mocking the concerns of SS recipients. Marr Apr 2013 #124

No, they weren't. Thread titles (i.e *themes*): Cooley Hurd Apr 2013 #126

You don't see this as mocking the fears of seniors: Marr Apr 2013 #129

That SPECIFIC post? Yes. Cooley Hurd Apr 2013 #139

You see how that works? 99Forever Apr 2013 #62

Yep. It seems to be the standard response. Marr Apr 2013 #63

Either some are being insincere, or those threads are like ink blots. PETRUS Apr 2013 #66

Don't make any mistake about it, you are correct, they absolutely are mocking those who are sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #79

How about a response? Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #40

How about reading my response #46. nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #47

Was #46 the one that said you had to protect your family from perilous weather Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #98

Please post a link where I ridiculed any elderly and/or poor person. I'm still waiting. nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #142

40 comes before 46. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #162

They are not hard to find, although considering the sources, not surprising at all. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #48

What I've seen so far has been in response to the specific posters, not comments about the OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #55

Mocking the notion that the elderly may be forced to eat cat food is not especially amusing, unless sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #61

One person's "mocking" is another person's sense of humor.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #65

I have a pretty good sense of humor, but I never saw any humor at all in mocking the elderly or the sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #67

Sorry, I'm still not seeing any of the "mocking" that some are claiming to see.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #69

No problem, a lot of other people saw it and were pretty disgusted by it. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #75

Some people see what they want to see...nothing anyone can do about that, either. nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #97

It is about prespective. You are very emotional about your 'hard years' without a job Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #99

You must have me confused with someone else. Please link ANY post where I've ridiculed.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #130

I'm STILL waiting, and getting more pissed by the minute. nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #136

I see a lot of mocking of serious issues by DU posters, iemitsu Apr 2013 #155

You can check out this thread for some pretty disgusting mocking posts about old people eating sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #56

It is kind of irritating to have former freepers Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #93

+10000 Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #94

Certainly is. cordelia Apr 2013 #100

With the more aggressive sock of the passive-aggressive former Freeper... SMC22307 Apr 2013 #121

"Punch and Judy" certainly enjoy yanking people's chains Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #146

Attempting to yank, yeah, but the bullshit is always called out... SMC22307 Apr 2013 #149

That asshole again. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #116

Totally busted by Bluenorthwest. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #112

Are you talking about me being "totally busted by Bluenorthwest"? Seriously?? In what respect?.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #131

#98 Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #140

No, you specifically stated that I personally ridiculed the elderly and/or poor.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #141

Link it. I said no such thing. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #143

Your post #112....you backed Bluenorthwest with your comment. nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #144

Let's go, bud...prove RIGHT NOW that I was "totally busted by Bluenorthwest". nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #137

k&r n/t RainDog Apr 2013 #4

Who is doing this? ellie Apr 2013 #5

Trope of the week alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6

Well said. +1000. nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #8

This is pretty mocking: Hissyspit Apr 2013 #14

Very Mean Girls HangOnKids Apr 2013 #19

It's a mean time on the board in general alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #23

You used to write a lot finer. HangOnKids Apr 2013 #24

I'm sorry to hear that alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #25

Yeah dude we used to be friends HangOnKids Apr 2013 #26

It was markses alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #37

Sicily should jog your memory HangOnKids Apr 2013 #51

You seem to really think it is all a game Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #42

You're simply wrong alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #43

"self-appointed advocates"--that is a crap accusation.. tokenlib Apr 2013 #53

+1 Thank you...I looked at the links and didn't getting 'mocking' out of them. nt snappyturtle Apr 2013 #58

This. Exactly. nt Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #68

That was a stunning post you just made. woo me with science Apr 2013 #70

+1000 tokenlib Apr 2013 #71

... Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #83

Excellent post. Nothing to add! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #90

This. Very much this quakerboy Apr 2013 #92

Thank you. myrna minx Apr 2013 #101

Mr Woo... 99Forever Apr 2013 #115

I second this Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #157

+1 nt laundry_queen Apr 2013 #151

++++++ n/t haikugal Apr 2013 #159

+1 Very true. n/t FSogol Apr 2013 #73

Oh yes, they are mocking seniors and those who are concerned about them. It is not a surprise to see sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #81

Nastiness in all directions alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #82

Give me an example of my nasty behavior. I don't belong to any group here. I am a Democrat, for me sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #86

Right wingers when called out often say 'both sides do it, Mommy' Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #103

To deny factionalism on this board is real Flat Earther territory - there are obvious factions alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #105

Factions? IveWornAHundredPants Apr 2013 #122

Maybe you should try to read a few more posts...and post a few more.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #138

Neither do you. I've been here since 2004. IveWornAHundredPants Apr 2013 #145

Thank you for saying that. babylonsister Apr 2013 #72

One of the most sickening things I've ever seen posted here, yep. /nt Marr Apr 2013 #36

This is a close second. Puglover Apr 2013 #44

Did ya see the one about how we are hiding behind seniors on SS? I got pissed and said L0oniX Apr 2013 #163

Anyone who's said "emoprog" lately, for one. /nt Marr Apr 2013 #35

who are these people? cause they're not democrats. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #9

Third Way and their relentless talking points are a Wall Street creation, woo me with science Apr 2013 #11

Great info, but pls don't forget that just a few minutes into the First Obama-Rmoney debate truedelphi Apr 2013 #15

If we apply Rahm's where-else-are-they-going-to-go thinking, "knowing" does not mean "approval." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #27

+1 woo me with science Apr 2013 #85

Well of course most of the voting age population voted for neither candidate Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #104

"Also, I can say I'll never again vote for a Third Way 'centrist', nor for anyone associated sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #127

I've been told to shut up and take it before. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2013 #12

+10 n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #30

Full employment, good, stable, decent-paying jobs Triana Apr 2013 #13

Yes and using the huge surplus in the SS fund to increase benefits, money that would cost the Fed sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #148

My son knows. Milliesmom Apr 2013 #16

Thanks for the post Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #17

+100000 woo me with science Apr 2013 #18

Very well said... haikugal Apr 2013 #160

I don't have any family. I am nowhere near retirement. But I can see my Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #32

The old and sick and the the mercy of people who don't care. sorefeet Apr 2013 #20

Yep. That's called capitalism...... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #52

I want to hug you for this post. woo me with science Apr 2013 #89

How many seniors are buying their first firearm? SCVDem Apr 2013 #21

a rise in suicide among older retirees is inevitable if this goes through carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #38

Spot on! chervilant Apr 2013 #117

You stated: "Given that wages for younger workers have not kept pace with the avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #22

Thanks for that link Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #41

Fantastic link. Thank you! woo me with science Apr 2013 #84

Great link, thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #147

K&R Liberalynn Apr 2013 #28

k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #33

K&R MichiganVote Apr 2013 #34

Kick and Recommend! tokenlib Apr 2013 #45

All too true. And it's gone too far now to change........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #54

Just the idea itself gives Paul Ryan a boner Blue Owl Apr 2013 #57

"Mocking the Old People"and Trashing Boomers has been a Theme KoKo Apr 2013 #74

It's always been a right wing theme. How it crept onto Democratic forums, is a question that sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #88

Powerful Democrats also support Petersen Foundation... KoKo Apr 2013 #134

+++++ haikugal Apr 2013 #161

K&R Great post! MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #77

Quit bitching and start acting BanTheGOP Apr 2013 #78

We can bitch AND act, multitaskers we are..love a wealth tax!! tokenlib Apr 2013 #80

I know. It's especially hard if you are a woman who was NEVER paid as much as a man.(small ss check) Harriety Apr 2013 #95

lord knows they completely missed the fact this President has defended, protected, and enhanced bigtree Apr 2013 #96

So your theory is that opposing these cuts worries seniors but proposing those cuts Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #107

you act as if you're bound to misrepresent the state of politics surrounding the prospects for this bigtree Apr 2013 #120

Aren't the bottom quintile of seniors exempted from the chained CPI in Obama's plan? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #106

Do you understand that the CPI also dictates tax brackets and eligibilty for credits Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #109

It was a simple question Recursion Apr 2013 #110

Derail? You asked about the cuts impact, I offered you a link. You offered nothing. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #111

What were you expecting? This tiny faction has a strict playbook from which they Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #114

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #118

You are so correct! Lifelong Protester Apr 2013 #113

Kick and Rec! Fuddnik Apr 2013 #119

Obama mocking seniors locks Apr 2013 #125

Not to mention the fact that SS beneficiaries do not need him or anyone else messing with their sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #132

Thank you. That a Democratic President is proposing legislation that people need "protection" from, woo me with science Apr 2013 #153

What's even worse is that no one needs to be 'spared'. There is enough money in the fund itself to sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #154

+10000 It is obscene. It is despicable, not the least because it is UNNECESSARY. woo me with science Apr 2013 #156

+1,000 azurnoir Apr 2013 #128

not only that, they say that anyone against them is a GOP puppet MisterP Apr 2013 #133

Sophist, Whistling Past the Graveyard usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #135

I can't believe anybody is sticking up for Obama over this. n/t duffyduff Apr 2013 #152

I want to thank everyone who responded to or read this thread. MrYikes Apr 2013 #158