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Samantha

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15. It is stunning to dissect

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 05:08 PM

Apr 2013

I might be wrong to say this but at this point I do believe President Obama sees his future as the type of life Former President Clinton now leads. In that connection, he needs when he leaves office to have a high poll number with them (the VIPs) rather than us. That is what leads to the $100,000 per plate speeches. I don't see him as the type of person to sit around and do nothing when he leaves office, so I think he is preparing for his future.

But I also do not see him as a man that would deliberately do something extremely cunningly in a way that would deliberately hurt many poor and/or struggling middle class people (as well as the disabled and veterans). I think because of the advice he was given, he underestimated the outrage that would ensue. But what do I know??

I would like to think it was just a huge mistake, but again, what do I know ....

Sam

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Rather than dancing with those that "brung" him, Obama eyes making a deal with the Devil [View all] Samantha Apr 2013 OP

Well said and I share your opinion. forestpath Apr 2013 #1

Last night, Chris Hayes said there was not the same public opposition shown to this issue Samantha Apr 2013 #4

Very disingenous of him. Polls show overwhelming opposition even though SS cuts have not forestpath Apr 2013 #6

It is staggering, isn't it Samantha Apr 2013 #11

Multi dimensional chess pscot Apr 2013 #61

Of course - why didn't I think of that? Samantha Apr 2013 #63

Intergalactic GO` Newest Reality Apr 2013 #76

Yes, it is disingenuous of him. But we have to remember that no one who goes against the sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #77

He knows who butters his bread. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #23

Larry O'Donnell went out of his way last night to point snappyturtle Apr 2013 #52

I don't think I have seen many DU'ers say President Obama is the only Democratic President Samantha Apr 2013 #53

Thanks Samantha for your thoughtful reply. I guess I've caught remarks snappyturtle Apr 2013 #60

I purposely waited for awhile to respond to you because I knew you were sincere Samantha Apr 2013 #62

I don't regret voting for the President twice either...far from it. snappyturtle Apr 2013 #65

That is becoming more and more obvious every single day Samantha Apr 2013 #64

It's sounds almost comical... UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #71

Absolutely. Gun control & immigration reform are distractors. Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #42

I posted that somewhere here on DU that I do not think this is a coincidence these 3 issues Samantha Apr 2013 #45

Absolutely right. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #2

Thank you - I braced myself when I hit "Post" for a lot of flaming Samantha Apr 2013 #5

No flaming from me. dgibby Apr 2013 #8

I think the Sensible Ones, the Large Conifers, Crackers for Whatever, and the lot are worn down Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #43

Maybe they know me pretty well - been around since 2001 Samantha Apr 2013 #44

K&R MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #3

there are many good things in the budget treestar Apr 2013 #7

Then perhaps you should start one. n/t dgibby Apr 2013 #9

Those issues are not connected to Social Security Samantha Apr 2013 #10

There is no controversy? treestar Apr 2013 #16

+100 PennsylvaniaMatt Apr 2013 #30

Why is that relevant? Apparently the President knew that the GOP would not accept any budget sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #50

Social Security benefits, unemployment benefits, food stamps Samantha Apr 2013 #56

Just too simple and obvious! maddiemom Apr 2013 #68

Some simply don't understand what Obama is truly about. duffyduff Apr 2013 #79

Actually, he's pitching deals to the Devil. JVS Apr 2013 #12

That is true, but I dove for the alliteration to attract attention Samantha Apr 2013 #13

Agree...there's no way this isn't going to hurt the Dem Party... KoKo Apr 2013 #14

It is stunning to dissect Samantha Apr 2013 #15

As I've thought more about it..Why do the Trial Balloon on this KoKo Apr 2013 #22

The more you think about it, the more murkier it becomes Samantha Apr 2013 #31

Thanks for that link.......it's very interesting... KoKo Apr 2013 #33

I missed that thread but it is very interesting Samantha Apr 2013 #34

On the "Fix the Debt" Source Watch Link.... KoKo Apr 2013 #38

How comforting it is to know the cast of characters constituting our shadow government Samantha Apr 2013 #54

I have a postscript to the post below answering your thoughts above Samantha Apr 2013 #32

Going to Source Watch....and looking at the cast of characters KoKo Apr 2013 #39

We are now Wisconsin? Samantha Apr 2013 #66

Yes...we are Wisconsin.... KoKo Apr 2013 #67

or it all may be a smokescreen to give the corporations what they really want antigop Apr 2013 #36

Seems to be the plan sadly.... KoKo Apr 2013 #40

I don't think this will end well. The question is...what will take its place afterwards? nt antigop Apr 2013 #41

William Greider said, "At the end of the day, Social Security will not be cut. " antigop Apr 2013 #51

Didn't you just post a link to a thread which says the chained CPI has passed in the house? Samantha Apr 2013 #47

I don't think it passed the House. I wish TPM would have posted a roll call. nt antigop Apr 2013 #48

It's the hypocrisy of the NRCC Chairman who said it was an "attack on seniors", yet he voted for it. antigop Apr 2013 #49

I'ts more than a betrayal of his base. It's a betrayal of the entire country. nt magical thyme Apr 2013 #17

Yes, it is Samantha Apr 2013 #18

Indeed...already they are coming out Against It...like THEY KoKo Apr 2013 #25

I have always been a big supporter of Obama, but not so much anymore. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #26

It's easily explained by the fact that many of his appointments and advisors xtraxritical Apr 2013 #70

At least Warren is a gem. She is fighting for us. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #72

I would love to see her on the Democratic ticket in 2016 as the VP candidate Samantha Apr 2013 #73

I would too. Would also like to see Al Frnken on the ticket. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #74

He is a real Democrat but he seems to prefer a really low profile Samantha Apr 2013 #75

Well it is now cringe-worthy Samantha Apr 2013 #27

He never had the right to agree to it, it is NOT his to bargain with. That fund is not in trouble, sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #69

I thought it was our side which advocated for those tax loophole changes in his budget bigtree Apr 2013 #19

You do not mean the tax subsidies to Big Oil and other corporations do you? Samantha Apr 2013 #20

And since SS has nothing to do with the deficit, it's positively Hellish. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #21

I think that is why everyone is pretty hot under the collar about it! Samantha Apr 2013 #24

Great post jsr Apr 2013 #28

Funny thing jsr Samantha Apr 2013 #29

just fyi...a month ago, half the House GOP voted for chained CPI antigop Apr 2013 #35

I got so excited when I read your thread I posted on it instead coming back here! Samantha Apr 2013 #46

Satan Sandwiches for the 99 Percent. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #37

We needed a little humor added to this thread Samantha Apr 2013 #57

When the Devil is in control of the House it hard to ignore him. DCBob Apr 2013 #55

I guess we have to work toward a political exorcism in 2014 Samantha Apr 2013 #58

exactly what we need! DCBob Apr 2013 #59

It's not a bluff. Obama has been in favor of "fixing" Social Security duffyduff Apr 2013 #78

During the debates, I heard President Obama say to Mitt Romney words to the effect Samantha Apr 2013 #80

You describe the betrayal very well. woo me with science Apr 2013 #81

Thank you - I have a question for you Samantha Apr 2013 #82