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AverageJoe90

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106. I think it'll work out, as the Republicans were the ones who started this shit in the first place...

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 05:49 PM

Apr 2013

.....but can we pull ourselves together and stop the infighting? Remember PBO's been in office for his last term for just 3 months now. 3 months, fellas.

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Kos: "White House Appears Shellshocked" [View all] KoKo Apr 2013 OP

Will we ever know what advisors are reponsible for this boneheaded idea? Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #1

The origination of the idea Nite Owl Apr 2013 #6

The origination is very worrisome JimDandy Apr 2013 #74

He picks his advisors. The buck stops with him. FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #118

. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #132

We still need to know who the knuckleheads are that are giving him piss poor advice. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #133

His real advisors are the 1% FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #143

the 1% bankster thugs that pay him datasuspect Apr 2013 #210

Origin still matters quakerboy Apr 2013 #174

Problem with that argument is that this is the President's prime responsibility. It is his word. delrem Apr 2013 #182

I don't think that's the issue in this case. lark Apr 2013 #196

It is the issue for US though quakerboy Apr 2013 #212

Future presidents will take advice from the Koch brothers, just like now. FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #229

Thank you! Carolina Apr 2013 #221

Agreed... ReRe Apr 2013 #93

this is like the stupid fiasco during the election when Israel was not mentioned samsingh Apr 2013 #206

Probably the advisors that Obama met with this morning. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #7

Or the ones he had dinner with last night. bahrbearian Apr 2013 #10

red meat for Republicans carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #45

No doubt. And these "advisors" too (Bowles/Simpson and "Fix the Debt" crowd) Triana Apr 2013 #12

Both of them are not trustworthy. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #136

Thank you tierra Y Libertad - truedelphi Apr 2013 #39

Well stated! "corrupt beyond belief"!!!!! emsimon33 Apr 2013 #183

there is a debt I suppose, to repay maindawg Apr 2013 #61

There IS a debt to pay.... ReRe Apr 2013 #95

There IS a debt, which has nothing to do with the People's Fund. The people have a surplus sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #160

He's just meeting his bosses. Beacool Apr 2013 #62

They used to deliver bribes in brown paper bags...now they call them campaign contributions. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #63

If Hillary runs in 2016 DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #82

I love Hillary Clinton... ReRe Apr 2013 #99

as I have told many DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #107

Unicorns and ponys for everyone! ReRe Apr 2013 #128

too late...Bill screwed things up royally.... antigop Apr 2013 #184

+1,000,000,000,000 dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #112

Amen + 1,000,000 zeeland Apr 2013 #175

There won't be a Warren 2016, not if Hillary is in the running. Beacool Apr 2013 #154

I know you want Hillary DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #178

I just don't see Warren in 2016. Beacool Apr 2013 #181

If DUers don't like Obama with the bankers disndat Apr 2013 #209

Seeing as how some of the appointees hail from a few of these august institutions, gateley Apr 2013 #87

Most if not all of them should be thrown to the wolves. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #135

+1 Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #144

Thank you for that link..I missed seeing that report. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #150

Obama is responsible AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #9

I agree with your first point. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #19

Obama is responsible donnasgirl Apr 2013 #33

Pete Peterson and Robert Rubin the Friedmanite Demeter Apr 2013 #48

Link? Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #50

That is so so true Samantha Apr 2013 #78

Probably not, but I'll bet they're really working for the republians notadmblnd Apr 2013 #75

Obama is responsible. nt Skip Intro Apr 2013 #80

the advisors on Wall Street, is my guess. piratefish08 Apr 2013 #113

I have no doubt Axelrod is one of them. That man makes me ill and he isn't the brightest sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #138

the poor, helpless, powerless President. piratefish08 Apr 2013 #187

Yes, this is only one of a series of dumb ass moves by the president. bowens43 Apr 2013 #2

Oh he's trying Nite Owl Apr 2013 #5

His legacy Plucketeer Apr 2013 #32

That is all he will be to you, Plucketeer rury Apr 2013 #152

Here, here! randome Apr 2013 #163

I believe his presidency will rank with James Buchannan jerseyjack Apr 2013 #166

He will be the Democrat who destroyed his party for decades lark Apr 2013 #198

excellent post, lark Carolina Apr 2013 #222

Sure, Plucketeer Apr 2013 #199

Thank you. mercymechap Apr 2013 #223

Isn't it sad that the best thing we can say about an elected official is that 'he's better than the sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #227

I disagree: His unconstitutional extensions of exec power will he his true legacy. panzerfaust Apr 2013 #201

I'm actually reluctant Plucketeer Apr 2013 #202

There is only one party, the party of money. mother earth Apr 2013 #3

I think your subject line is from Gore Vidal. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #134

TY, rhett o rick. :) mother earth Apr 2013 #218

No Problem. Stay Cool. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #219

Who knew? avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #4

That's funny! Liberalynn Apr 2013 #13

I've been enjoying a lot of gallow's humor in the last couple days. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #18

I keep thinking back to Michael Moore rurallib Apr 2013 #8

+1 BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #23

Mr. President, if this has truly taken you by surprise, you should seriously consider winter is coming Apr 2013 #11

and now that you have seen the response Liberalynn Apr 2013 #17

Or resigning Demeter Apr 2013 #49

I thought of resignation too. ReRe Apr 2013 #102

Living in a bubble is hard! City Lights Apr 2013 #14

Link? WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #15

link: Melinda Apr 2013 #21

Thanks! WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #24

Psssst, it's KoKo's OP or I would, Pop ;-) n/t Melinda Apr 2013 #53

D'oh! WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #56

give the poor sleep deprived guy a break. . . . n/t annabanana Apr 2013 #146

But it seemed like such a great idea over prime rib with Jamie Dimon Maven Apr 2013 #16

The bling in Jamie's cuff links must have blinded him! HangOnKids Apr 2013 #44

Betcha Jamie wrote it off as a business expense. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #139

Excellent, witty response. Peregrine Took Apr 2013 #58

LOL n/t Oilwellian Apr 2013 #142

"...this bumbling White House..." randome Apr 2013 #20

Oh HarmonyRockets Apr 2013 #43

Direct your outrage at the WH and our Reps. randome Apr 2013 #68

Hmm HarmonyRockets Apr 2013 #81

I probably would NOT be as calm with a Republican President. randome Apr 2013 #88

Ugh HarmonyRockets Apr 2013 #94

I'm not 'upset'. And you make good points. randome Apr 2013 #97

Great post! dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #117

Absolutely! Policies over personalities. PA Democrat Apr 2013 #125

Oh my goodness! Pushing for POLICIES over Team D and BHO.... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #162

Very well stated. I'll never understand why some people have issues with that. nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #168

Agree, excellent post! BuelahWitch Apr 2013 #190

You stay put, Harmony Rockets... ReRe Apr 2013 #110

Maybe you're not reading all the comments. mercymechap Apr 2013 #224

It IS a bumbling WH and I'm constantly wondering how a "smart chessmaster" like Obama Boomerproud Apr 2013 #65

First no one has been hurt. randome Apr 2013 #70

Stop revising history. The actual facts are important. This WH advocated for gay rights? Eventually. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #103

George W. Bush wanted to privatize Social Security... cheapdate Apr 2013 #76

Here's what some newspaper readers are seeing today: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #22

I was awake during the campaign, so I know he's aware that Chained CPI is very unpopular and Marr Apr 2013 #25

The President can always withdraw the CPI (let cons think they 'won') and get the deal signed. Sunlei Apr 2013 #28

I think it'll work out, as the Republicans were the ones who started this shit in the first place... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #106

could you please place the link to the news story in OP, thank you. Sunlei Apr 2013 #26

done...just edited. Sorry about that. KoKo Apr 2013 #37

Thanks KoKo, like your comments just wanted to read the article. Sunlei Apr 2013 #195

The fact that the club for growth is defending the president says it all. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #27

But Obama punched some hippies and emos neverforget Apr 2013 #29

Who are the ''hippies" ?? could you please elaborate on that. YOHABLO Apr 2013 #148

The 'libruls' AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #211

Maybe Kos is ProSense Apr 2013 #30

And Norquist is calling chained CPI a tax increase. randome Apr 2013 #40

I see that if we can't defend, now we divert. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2013 #57

Just curious, but does Kos have any direct quotes from anyone in the White House.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #31

But,....but,...but,....Tweety LOVES this deal!!! Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #34

Here's a link to the Kos post. madfloridian Apr 2013 #35

Maybe the President should get treatment for his co-dependency problem. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #36

Olive branch brutus smith Apr 2013 #90

"How many times does it take for him to learn?" FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #141

Touche! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #157

Obama can not seem to understand this one simple fact. MsPithy Apr 2013 #38

That seems to be an issue with most Democrats - mercymechap Apr 2013 #41

It doesn't require being soulless magellan Apr 2013 #47

No wilsonbooks Apr 2013 #167

But that's just it. mercymechap Apr 2013 #225

He does understand. duffyduff Apr 2013 #42

Bingo! ReRe Apr 2013 #115

Thank you n/t Citizen Seattle Apr 2013 #145

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #161

Is KOS truely correct on this, I have not heard of any cuts? azalia Apr 2013 #46

They MUST be stunned if they're blaming REPUBLICANS instead of just insulting liberals. forestpath Apr 2013 #51

SO true. They love to "kick the hippies" don't they? Peregrine Took Apr 2013 #59

A-FUCKING-MEN! forestpath Apr 2013 #60

Damn right! ReRe Apr 2013 #116

Really STUPID strategic move. STUPID! closeupready Apr 2013 #52

This is just about the dumbest thing he's done yet..until he approves Keystone of course... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #54

"After his first term I knew he was no progressive, and I knew that he was the lesser of two evils." Ghost in the Machine Apr 2013 #66

We were headed for a shot at taking back the House in 2014 DaveT Apr 2013 #55

Amen......at this point he is doing more harm then good. yourout Apr 2013 #165

Congressional Dems need to distance themselves from this nonsense. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #172

okay now that the White House appears shellshocked.... AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #64

No, no, you're supposed to stomp your feet and give up! randome Apr 2013 #67

I have a long way to go AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #69

Well if that is how YOU feel, maybe YOU should call the WH et al rather than acting sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #185

2.5 Million Petition Signatures were presented to the WH.. KoKo Apr 2013 #191

Did anyone acknowledge those millions of people who signed the petition? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #200

Keep holding their feet to the fire. No one wants to change that. randome Apr 2013 #193

Amen to that! mercymechap Apr 2013 #226

Yea I mean.. sendero Apr 2013 #73

Rose petals. We should embrace him for sticking... santamargarita Apr 2013 #71

Has anything with the word "chained" in its title EVER been good? Blue Owl Apr 2013 #72

Best of thread! n/ t JimDandy Apr 2013 #85

Does anyone know who came up with that term? "chained-cpi" ReRe Apr 2013 #122

I guess Obama thought people weren't so short-sighted. Hoyt Apr 2013 #77

Here's a hint jeff47 Apr 2013 #86

Here's another hint, look at the big picture, as well as the budget proposals for jobs, unemployment Hoyt Apr 2013 #89

The big picture is that Social Security doesn't cause deficits jeff47 Apr 2013 #98

It's called politics, and borrowing to repay the SS trust fund does contribute to debt. Hoyt Apr 2013 #109

If it's just politics, then that makes the proposal even worse. jeff47 Apr 2013 #111

You can't blame his advisors for this one shawn703 Apr 2013 #79

I agree with the advisors remark. randome Apr 2013 #83

That would require democracy... immoderate Apr 2013 #140

No one on this thread is proclaiming him 'The Enemy' The Green Manalishi Apr 2013 #180

I agree. He needs to be called out on this. randome Apr 2013 #194

Well, neither extreme does any good The Green Manalishi Apr 2013 #220

I'm sure this is just one of his ninja-like kung-fu 10 dimension chess moves Marrah_G Apr 2013 #84

The President has this bizarre idea John2 Apr 2013 #91

He looks like the bumbling amateur he's been accused of being all along. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #92

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #164

It's discouraging...what did we get in return? lib2DaBone Apr 2013 #96

It makes total sense dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #124

Judge the actions not the speeches and it is so clear. wilsonbooks Apr 2013 #169

Is there anyone in that White House that can think a logical thought? Autumn Apr 2013 #100

Rule Number One - Do Not Fuck With Social Security. Blue Idaho Apr 2013 #101

Exactly. Why don't they get this point? Rider3 Apr 2013 #189

Most of this is right, except for one thing: AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #104

Correct about the Repubs dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #127

This is no bumbling me b zola Apr 2013 #105

I think they wanted to triangulate. Clinton probably told Obama to do it. Zen Democrat Apr 2013 #108

If his advice is that bad...then I fear for the next over 4 1/2 Years! KoKo Apr 2013 #119

Could have been any of Obamas good friends, Dimon, Summers, good old Timmy, Autumn Apr 2013 #130

So, it's always either Bush's fault or Clinton's fault. Beacool Apr 2013 #155

lol you made me laugh nt SwampG8r Apr 2013 #215

This message was self-deleted by its author Marrah_G Apr 2013 #114

The key word is 'appears' FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #120

Kos never really loved him....he's a new Jane Hamsher TransitJohn Apr 2013 #121

"Because only a moron would step on that third rail." FlyByNight Apr 2013 #123

Just for the sake of argument... FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #147

Or why would you care how it affects the people that voted for you dflprincess Apr 2013 #170

du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2013 #126

How can it be they are so willfullingly out of touch Rex Apr 2013 #129

A true boneheaded move. And I would know. n/t AAO Apr 2013 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author Citizen Seattle Apr 2013 #137

Just another politician out of touch with not only his base .. but the majority of .. YOHABLO Apr 2013 #149

He's still trying to be Lincoln when he should have been like FDR. n/t davidwparker Apr 2013 #151

Blanche? n/t carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #171

K&R. *Sigh* myrna minx Apr 2013 #153

But wait, I thought he was rope-a-doping in the 11th dimension? nt Bonobo Apr 2013 #156

This says it all. Beacool Apr 2013 #158

Best executive summary ever. jsr Apr 2013 #159

"Show courage and leadership in entitlement reform" - Almost every media pundit has been telling him Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #173

What on Earth is courageous about ripping off the poor and elderly? winter is coming Apr 2013 #176

I'm sure those mainstream media pundits just cannot understand why the poor and elderly don't sell Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #179

+100000000000 woo me with science Apr 2013 #217

You should check on your team of rivals. Herlong Apr 2013 #177

Just emailed the White House Sherman A1 Apr 2013 #186

Can we PLEASE stop the 12D chess bullshit now? Doctor_J Apr 2013 #188

3. A mistake to propose this. randome Apr 2013 #192

IM in a PEACH of a mood. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #197

I would say this problem is party-wide, not just the president. Crowman1979 Apr 2013 #203

Sad but true. kentuck Apr 2013 #204

Thanks for this post locks Apr 2013 #205

The thing about a Messiah complex Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #207

They live in a bubble of 1%ers and their media pundits. /nt Marr Apr 2013 #208

I think they can see outside their bubble. FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #214

The "tough choices" always seem to target the weak. Courtesy Flush Apr 2013 #213

K&R! TeamPooka Apr 2013 #216

I think at this precise moment, the truth is indiscernable (to us) Samantha Apr 2013 #228