War is Peace. (Reply #187) - Democratic Underground

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 06:10 PM

187. War is Peace.

Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
Drone murders are Ethical, Legal, and Wise.
Chained CPI is Superlative
and
Assault is Protection.

Corporate Propaganda will repeat the Mantras with Great Seriousness, despite having been corrected and corrected and corrected and corrected and corrected.

Why? Because that is the nature of Propaganda.

The chocolate ration will, always and forever, only have been increased.

Myths About Chained CPI, Debunked
http://www.thenation.com/blog/173786/top-5-myths-about-chained-cpi-debunked

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Does Anyone Know When My SS Payment Will Be Cut? [View all]	MineralMan	Apr 2013	OP
Reduction of growth vs. status quo is a fucking cut. We already went through this game with Reagan	cthulu2016	Apr 2013	#1
But I just read in another thread that I'll be getting	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#3
Perhaps you should have asked in that thread (?)	cthulu2016	Apr 2013	#4
You really shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internets.	Rex	Apr 2013	#12
+1	Go Vols	Apr 2013	#19
Oh, OK. That's sort of a relief, then.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#26
Yes it is the latest budget proposal	Rex	Apr 2013	#34
The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#70
+1. They can't put it on the internet if it isn't true!	FSogol	Apr 2013	#40
So you support SS cuts then?? I always wondered where you stood on these issues.	sabrina 1	Apr 2013	#30
No. I depend on my Social Security payments.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#32
Yes, it's one of the best fiscal and social programs ever. I am glad you are benefiting from it.	sabrina 1	Apr 2013	#44
Yes. I missed those two COLA increases, too.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#60
The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#71
The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#68
That's not how CPI works	Cal Carpenter	Apr 2013	#2
So, are you saying that I'll keep getting my regular	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#5
Here's some info	Cal Carpenter	Apr 2013	#16
The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#72
Ah thanks	Cal Carpenter	Apr 2013	#76
For a couple recent years there wasn't even a cost-of-living adjustment.	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#111
Only the innumerate..	sendero	Apr 2013	#28
I'll take it further	Skittles	Apr 2013	#38
The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#73
YOU WILL LOSE	Skittles	Apr 2013	#37
The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#75
He probably does, but it would take away from his headline...	russspeakeasy	Apr 2013	#9
Yeah	Cal Carpenter	Apr 2013	#27
+1	russspeakeasy	Apr 2013	#48
Especially the poorest elderly	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#124
You must have missed the 2006 drug coverage, and not only that, but Obama closed much of donut hole.	Hoyt	Apr 2013	#148
+1	leftstreet	Apr 2013	#153
Really, you're going there?	Cleita	Apr 2013	#6
Hey, I already can't buy the stuff I was once able to.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#8
Well, then get used to not eating at the cheap fast food joints in the future	Cleita	Apr 2013	#15
Hmm...I work with what I have, you know.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#29
So what will you do when you can't work?	Cleita	Apr 2013	#41
I have been self-employed since 1974. I'm still self-employed.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#63
Well isn't that nice for you	gaspee	Apr 2013	#94
Hello, there. So, you don't think that writing stuff for people to read	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#102
I still find you insuffereable	gaspee	Apr 2013	#120
OK.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#127
So, by your own definition you're actually another, "Mr. Sit On His Ass All Day"?....	OldDem2012	Apr 2013	#149
Wait, You Aren't A Thoracic Surgeon As Well?	HangOnKids	Apr 2013	#170
You don't get my post. What if you can't work?	Cleita	Apr 2013	#106
That's possible, of course.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#116
whoosh	SammyWinstonJack	Apr 2013	#152
I don't know why I bother	gaspee	Apr 2013	#123
LOL. You just keep piling up the insulting comments, don't you?....	OldDem2012	Apr 2013	#150
It attracts readers	HangOnKids	Apr 2013	#156
Also...	marew	Apr 2013	#184
They can't.	Cleita	Apr 2013	#185
Doesn't that 1%er water get heavy?	99Forever	Apr 2013	#7
As I understand it, you've already lost everything, you contracted cancer, were denied treatment...	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#10
Oh. Nobody told me. I'm sad now...	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#14
My remorse has consumed me. I am inconsolable.	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#20
You think you have it bad? Now, I find out I'm already dead.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#22
you need critical thinking skills	Skittles	Apr 2013	#39
This thread was desperately needed.	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#56
If only we'd let you and the Serious People do our thinking for us	Maven	Apr 2013	#98
More ridiculous DU hyperbole.	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#101
"More ridiculous DU hyperbole"	Maven	Apr 2013	#133
By supporting the President I have disqualified myself from DU. Anything wrong with that picture?	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#177
Very well stated!	randome	Apr 2013	#178
No, you've disqualified yourself by acting like a condescending know-it-all	Maven	Apr 2013	#186
Looks like we're destined to disagree unitl hell freezes over. But, be forewarned:	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#189
Way to go Mavin	GiveMeFreedom	Apr 2013	#196
"You and your ilk unwaveringly support a political figure, not any discernible set of principles."	Marr	Apr 2013	#210
WTF???	Skittles	Apr 2013	#103
Uh, yeah, you are.	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#105
um....no I do not	Skittles	Apr 2013	#108
So, because you have 85,000+ posts on DU, you can insult anyone you want, is that about it? nt.	OldDem2012	Apr 2013	#144
Don't like her post alert on it	HangOnKids	Apr 2013	#159
Having an opinion is not a license to insult.	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#180
if a fact is an insult, so be it	Skittles	Apr 2013	#190
Yes especially if you are still collecting SS. That's fraud and you'll wind up dead in prison. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2013	#191
Shhh...tell nobody.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#193
Explain pls	brush	Apr 2013	#203
He found out he was dead. It's not legal to collect SS benefits after death. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2013	#209
Ahhh! A minor but important matter. nt	brush	Apr 2013	#213
I understand he was made to eat cat food, as well	bigtree	Apr 2013	#23
I tried a piece of dry cat food once. Not to my taste, really.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#66
Gosh this clever little exchange would fit right in at Rush Limbaugh's forum	Armstead	Apr 2013	#52
Aw. Surely you can stand a little light on the subject.	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#54
I can certainly appreciate lighthearted piling on....	Armstead	Apr 2013	#62
Out of pure self defense from the overwhelming outpouring of angst, ...	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#87
Aren't they so clever? And so Serious?	Maven	Apr 2013	#100
you don't seem to grasp that proposed doesn't equate to passed into law.	cali	Apr 2013	#11
I know it hasn't been passed yet. But, surely if the President	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#17
Would you be as cavalier if he had asked for increased tax breaks for oil companies?	progressoid	Apr 2013	#67
He hasn't done that, has he?	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#74
I always GOTV.	progressoid	Apr 2013	#126
Straw Man.	Hissyspit	Apr 2013	#137
I wouldn't call it "troubled by"...I'd call it pissed off about being lied to.	Katashi_itto	Apr 2013	#18
Bingo	Armstead	Apr 2013	#53
Well said.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#77
Where have you been lately?	Coyotl	Apr 2013	#13
Well, I'm trying to figure out when my SS will be cut.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#21
Good luck with that.	Coyotl	Apr 2013	#25
As we speak!	HappyMe	Apr 2013	#33
Man! I've gotta start watching Congress more closely.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#35
There, there.	HappyMe	Apr 2013	#45
Hey! Wait! I'm still typing in this thread.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#78
Oh, I see. You just took the bad acid. Sorry.	HappyMe	Apr 2013	#86
I hate when that happens, you know.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#90
Lots of emoprogs on DU think it has passed. I keep asking for a link...	tridim	Apr 2013	#192
I am on SS also, but as I understand,	RebelOne	Apr 2013	#81
in other words, you have critical thinking skills	Skittles	Apr 2013	#110
Well, I guess you could call my knowledge of what is going on	RebelOne	Apr 2013	#151
well besides knowing what is going on	Skittles	Apr 2013	#212
Shit!	GiveMeFreedom	Apr 2013	#197
tip of the hat, MineralMan	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#24
Your standards are pretty low, apparently.	Hissyspit	Apr 2013	#134
Being a condescending a** is brilliant?	SammyWinstonJack	Apr 2013	#157
Poor baby. Did mean old MineralMan hurt your little feelings?	Buzz Clik	Apr 2013	#179
when your grocery bill, utilities bill and other basic requirements for life	magical thyme	Apr 2013	#31
The proposal means you have ALREADY been cut!	randome	Apr 2013	#36
Yeah, and so's your old man!	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#79
Between 2014 and 2015 fiscal year would seem to be the answer here	alcibiades_mystery	Apr 2013	#42
It's already smaller, it is now half of what it should be. Seniors I know have been very	sabrina 1	Apr 2013	#47
Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA) Information for 2013 (SSA info) -	pinto	Apr 2013	#59
That's true. My monthly payment was increased a bit in January.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#84
I'm sure it's far less than half of what it should be	alcibiades_mystery	Apr 2013	#65
Dunno.	PETRUS	Apr 2013	#43
The ugly demonstrations of Third Way sincerity and compassion keep coming and coming.	woo me with science	Apr 2013	#46
Yes, it is the mocking aspect of this that is so disturbing. Seniors have already lost since the	sabrina 1	Apr 2013	#50
Social conservatives are threatening to leave the GOP.	dgibby	Apr 2013	#58
We shall see if MM is this snarky	Rex	Apr 2013	#61
Chained CPI also has protections in place for the poorest elderly	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#145
Fuck "PROTECTIONS" from the President's policies.	woo me with science	Apr 2013	#172
How about still protecting the elderly?	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#175
War is Peace.	woo me with science	Apr 2013	#187
Please educate yourself about what this does. It has already adversely affected the poorest of the	sabrina 1	Apr 2013	#174
So lifting the poorest elderly above the poverety line	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#181
And "...already adversely affected..."	randome	Apr 2013	#182
Nobody buys that.	bvar22	Apr 2013	#207
No, MM, no one knows IF or WHEN or HOW MUCH.	elleng	Apr 2013	#49
I have a more serious question: How are the estimates of the impact being figured	onenote	Apr 2013	#51
The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#80
It's simple-- ignore everything you hear...	TreasonousBastard	Apr 2013	#92
It'll be gradual, and you'll need to do some math	tkmorris	Apr 2013	#55
The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#83
Yeah, I know that. Thanks though.	tkmorris	Apr 2013	#155
There is no proposed cut to SS, only a change of how a COLA would be	sinkingfeeling	Apr 2013	#57
Thanks. That's true. There were no COLA increases for two years.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#89
As soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended to increase the amount of SS payments subject to taxation	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#64
this sort of thread must come easy for you to post after all those years posting on	boilerbabe	Apr 2013	#69
Hit the nail right on the head.	Hassin Bin Sober	Apr 2013	#85
"after all those years posting on Free Republic"	OhioChick	Apr 2013	#88
I did post on Free Republic, until I was banned in 2006	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#93
That story keeps changing, and YOU posted many times about your 'former' Freeper past that's the	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2013	#109
"You wrote lots of horrible anti gay things there"	The Link	Apr 2013	#147
He self-deleted all of those back when we had Meta.	Occulus	Apr 2013	#176
I think your worrying a little to much	GiveMeFreedom	Apr 2013	#198
+1	Marr	Apr 2013	#211
Anti-Freeping?	Wind Dancer	Apr 2013	#130
Zactly	Maven	Apr 2013	#139
Find some new material -- META is dead, get over it!!	CokeMachine	Apr 2013	#146
Ziiiiinnnnnggggg!!! Nice one! nt.	OldDem2012	Apr 2013	#82
You do harm to the Party by even suggesting cutting Social Security.	kentuck	Apr 2013	#91
Hell, I'm not suggesting that Social Security be cut.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#95
People are responding to the actual content of your post, not the affected pose you wrap that	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2013	#99
I was asking an important question, though. The answer, of course, was	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#107
Passive aggressive posturing.	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2013	#113
Whatever you say...	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#118
Your question was answered in post #64.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#115
And several other times in this thread, as well.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#117
I suppose that you are thanking me for kicking your thread. I didn't post such comments for that	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#143
This affectation is beneath even you. Passive aggression is the tactic of choice for folks who fear	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2013	#96
Funny how the same people who once assured us all that Obama would never ever propose this, are now	Marr	Apr 2013	#97
Actually, it would be a big deal, if it were actually implemented.	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#125
do you not get it?	Skittles	Apr 2013	#135
Have you not noticed?	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#138
"President Obama's proposal has ensured that it will not be enacted"	Skittles	Apr 2013	#140
I doubt that it will happen, too-- but I don't see how this can be viewed as any sort of	Marr	Apr 2013	#168
Lets put faces on your callousness and indifference.	bvar22	Apr 2013	#104
Rec	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2013	#112
There is no way that this stupid and cruel proposal can be justified	Jersey Devil	Apr 2013	#121
OK. Here's mine:	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#128
PERFECT!!!	bvar22	Apr 2013	#141
If a photo of a smiling elderly man in sunglasses says all of that to you, then you need ...	11 Bravo	Apr 2013	#158
Hey! Who you calling elderly?	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#161
Hey, I took a shot. I'm pretty sure we're about the same age (I'm 62), and I sure as shit ...	11 Bravo	Apr 2013	#183
This message was self-deleted by its author	bvar22	Apr 2013	#166
You get 2 Zantis for taking this thread in a bizarre direction!	randome	Apr 2013	#167
SNAP!!!!!!	Number23	Apr 2013	#194
So in other words, a chunky old man with one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel...	Hassin Bin Sober	Apr 2013	#171
I don't recall anyone mocking folks currently taking SS or any other earned benefit.....	OldDem2012	Apr 2013	#131
...	SammyWinstonJack	Apr 2013	#165
This thread is smartass crapola	Jersey Devil	Apr 2013	#114
Of course it is.	Hissyspit	Apr 2013	#129
Hyperbole	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#154
Grover Norquist calls it a tax increase.	randome	Apr 2013	#163
I caught that	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#164
Best summary in the thread. nt	woo me with science	Apr 2013	#188
Stupider and crueler than interning Japanese Americans	WonderGrunion	Apr 2013	#199
So you admit it is pretty far down there on the list then...	Pholus	Apr 2013	#204
You might want to add the execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg	Jersey Devil	Apr 2013	#206
Same as it ever was. nt	raouldukelives	Apr 2013	#200
Are you trying to talk us all into voting Republican?	aandegoons	Apr 2013	#119
Progressives and like minded individuals are fighting for your social security.	NCTraveler	Apr 2013	#122
I've been opposing Chained CPI in my communications with	MineralMan	Apr 2013	#132
The backlash against Obama was swift.	NCTraveler	Apr 2013	#136
But the Democratically controlled Senate is not in agreement, I'll wager.	randome	Apr 2013	#162
Dead? Not a chance.	bvar22	Apr 2013	#169
Ha!	greytdemocrat	Apr 2013	#142
Did you vote twice again?	randome	Apr 2013	#160
it won't be, it will be raised for inflation on a different formula	treestar	Apr 2013	#173
Well, if you should happen to pass away this year your payment will probably not be cut	tularetom	Apr 2013	#195
Treat it like we were told to treat the sequester which was never gonna happen.	Pholus	Apr 2013	#201
really stuck a nerve with this one..	DCBob	Apr 2013	#202
Yes. MM rally struck a nerve!	bvar22	Apr 2013	#208
He wasnt attacking those things..	DCBob	Apr 2013	#214
He was marginalizing and discounting the Righteous FURY of DEMOCRATS...	bvar22	Apr 2013	#215
You do realize that there have been numerous changes to the social security program over the years.	DCBob	Apr 2013	#216
7-12 years before it is privatized, we seem to have had your permission to discuss and react to that	TheKentuckian	Apr 2013	#205

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