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187. War is Peace.

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 06:10 PM

Apr 2013

Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
Drone murders are Ethical, Legal, and Wise.
Chained CPI is Superlative
and
Assault is Protection.

Corporate Propaganda will repeat the Mantras with Great Seriousness, despite having been corrected and corrected and corrected and corrected and corrected.

Why? Because that is the nature of Propaganda.

The chocolate ration will, always and forever, only have been increased.

Myths About Chained CPI, Debunked
http://www.thenation.com/blog/173786/top-5-myths-about-chained-cpi-debunked

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Does Anyone Know When My SS Payment Will Be Cut? [View all] MineralMan Apr 2013 OP

Reduction of growth vs. status quo is a fucking cut. We already went through this game with Reagan cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #1

But I just read in another thread that I'll be getting MineralMan Apr 2013 #3

Perhaps you should have asked in that thread (?) cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #4

You really shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internets. Rex Apr 2013 #12

+1 Go Vols Apr 2013 #19

Oh, OK. That's sort of a relief, then. MineralMan Apr 2013 #26

Yes it is the latest budget proposal Rex Apr 2013 #34

The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #70

+1. They can't put it on the internet if it isn't true! FSogol Apr 2013 #40

So you support SS cuts then?? I always wondered where you stood on these issues. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #30

No. I depend on my Social Security payments. MineralMan Apr 2013 #32

Yes, it's one of the best fiscal and social programs ever. I am glad you are benefiting from it. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #44

Yes. I missed those two COLA increases, too. MineralMan Apr 2013 #60

The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #71

The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #68

That's not how CPI works Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #2

So, are you saying that I'll keep getting my regular MineralMan Apr 2013 #5

Here's some info Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #16

The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #72

Ah thanks Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #76

For a couple recent years there wasn't even a cost-of-living adjustment. Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #111

Only the innumerate.. sendero Apr 2013 #28

I'll take it further Skittles Apr 2013 #38

The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #73

YOU WILL LOSE Skittles Apr 2013 #37

The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #75

He probably does, but it would take away from his headline... russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #9

Yeah Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #27

+1 russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #48

Especially the poorest elderly Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #124

You must have missed the 2006 drug coverage, and not only that, but Obama closed much of donut hole. Hoyt Apr 2013 #148

+1 leftstreet Apr 2013 #153

Really, you're going there? Cleita Apr 2013 #6

Hey, I already can't buy the stuff I was once able to. MineralMan Apr 2013 #8

Well, then get used to not eating at the cheap fast food joints in the future Cleita Apr 2013 #15

Hmm...I work with what I have, you know. MineralMan Apr 2013 #29

So what will you do when you can't work? Cleita Apr 2013 #41

I have been self-employed since 1974. I'm still self-employed. MineralMan Apr 2013 #63

Well isn't that nice for you gaspee Apr 2013 #94

Hello, there. So, you don't think that writing stuff for people to read MineralMan Apr 2013 #102

I still find you insuffereable gaspee Apr 2013 #120

OK. MineralMan Apr 2013 #127

So, by your own definition you're actually another, "Mr. Sit On His Ass All Day"?.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #149

Wait, You Aren't A Thoracic Surgeon As Well? HangOnKids Apr 2013 #170

You don't get my post. What if you can't work? Cleita Apr 2013 #106

That's possible, of course. MineralMan Apr 2013 #116

*whoosh* SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #152

I don't know why I bother gaspee Apr 2013 #123

LOL. You just keep piling up the insulting comments, don't you?.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #150

It attracts readers HangOnKids Apr 2013 #156

Also... marew Apr 2013 #184

They can't. Cleita Apr 2013 #185

Doesn't that 1%er water get heavy? 99Forever Apr 2013 #7

As I understand it, you've already lost everything, you contracted cancer, were denied treatment... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #10

Oh. Nobody told me. I'm sad now... MineralMan Apr 2013 #14

My remorse has consumed me. I am inconsolable. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #20

You think you have it bad? Now, I find out I'm already dead. MineralMan Apr 2013 #22

you need critical thinking skills Skittles Apr 2013 #39

This thread was desperately needed. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #56

If only we'd let you and the Serious People do our thinking for us Maven Apr 2013 #98

More ridiculous DU hyperbole. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #101

"More ridiculous DU hyperbole" Maven Apr 2013 #133

By supporting the President I have disqualified myself from DU. Anything wrong with that picture? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #177

Very well stated! randome Apr 2013 #178

No, you've disqualified yourself by acting like a condescending know-it-all Maven Apr 2013 #186

Looks like we're destined to disagree unitl hell freezes over. But, be forewarned: Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #189

Way to go Mavin GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #196

"You and your ilk unwaveringly support a political figure, not any discernible set of principles." Marr Apr 2013 #210

WTF??? Skittles Apr 2013 #103

Uh, yeah, you are. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #105

um....no I do not Skittles Apr 2013 #108

So, because you have 85,000+ posts on DU, you can insult anyone you want, is that about it? nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #144

Don't like her post alert on it HangOnKids Apr 2013 #159

Having an opinion is not a license to insult. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #180

if a fact is an insult, so be it Skittles Apr 2013 #190

Yes especially if you are still collecting SS. That's fraud and you'll wind up dead in prison. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #191

Shhh...tell nobody. MineralMan Apr 2013 #193

Explain pls brush Apr 2013 #203

He found out he was dead. It's not legal to collect SS benefits after death. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #209

Ahhh! A minor but important matter. nt brush Apr 2013 #213

I understand he was made to eat cat food, as well bigtree Apr 2013 #23

I tried a piece of dry cat food once. Not to my taste, really. MineralMan Apr 2013 #66

Gosh this clever little exchange would fit right in at Rush Limbaugh's forum Armstead Apr 2013 #52

Aw. Surely you can stand a little light on the subject. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #54

I can certainly appreciate lighthearted piling on.... Armstead Apr 2013 #62

Out of pure self defense from the overwhelming outpouring of angst, ... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #87

Aren't they so clever? And so Serious? Maven Apr 2013 #100

you don't seem to grasp that proposed doesn't equate to passed into law. cali Apr 2013 #11

I know it hasn't been passed yet. But, surely if the President MineralMan Apr 2013 #17

Would you be as cavalier if he had asked for increased tax breaks for oil companies? progressoid Apr 2013 #67

He hasn't done that, has he? MineralMan Apr 2013 #74

I always GOTV. progressoid Apr 2013 #126

Straw Man. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #137

I wouldn't call it "troubled by"...I'd call it pissed off about being lied to. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #18

Bingo Armstead Apr 2013 #53

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #77

Where have you been lately? Coyotl Apr 2013 #13

Well, I'm trying to figure out when my SS will be cut. MineralMan Apr 2013 #21

Good luck with that. Coyotl Apr 2013 #25

As we speak! HappyMe Apr 2013 #33

Man! I've gotta start watching Congress more closely. MineralMan Apr 2013 #35

There, there. HappyMe Apr 2013 #45

Hey! Wait! I'm still typing in this thread. MineralMan Apr 2013 #78

Oh, I see. You just took the bad acid. Sorry. HappyMe Apr 2013 #86

I hate when that happens, you know. MineralMan Apr 2013 #90

Lots of emoprogs on DU think it has passed. I keep asking for a link... tridim Apr 2013 #192

I am on SS also, but as I understand, RebelOne Apr 2013 #81

in other words, you have critical thinking skills Skittles Apr 2013 #110

Well, I guess you could call my knowledge of what is going on RebelOne Apr 2013 #151

well besides knowing what is going on Skittles Apr 2013 #212

Shit! GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #197

tip of the hat, MineralMan Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #24

Your standards are pretty low, apparently. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #134

Being a condescending a** is brilliant? SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #157

Poor baby. Did mean old MineralMan hurt your little feelings? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #179

when your grocery bill, utilities bill and other basic requirements for life magical thyme Apr 2013 #31

The proposal means you have ALREADY been cut! randome Apr 2013 #36

Yeah, and so's your old man! MineralMan Apr 2013 #79

Between 2014 and 2015 fiscal year would seem to be the answer here alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #42

It's already smaller, it is now half of what it should be. Seniors I know have been very sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #47

Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA) Information for 2013 (SSA info) - pinto Apr 2013 #59

That's true. My monthly payment was increased a bit in January. MineralMan Apr 2013 #84

I'm sure it's far less than half of what it *should* be alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #65

Dunno. PETRUS Apr 2013 #43

The ugly demonstrations of Third Way sincerity and compassion keep coming and coming. woo me with science Apr 2013 #46

Yes, it is the mocking aspect of this that is so disturbing. Seniors have already lost since the sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #50

Social conservatives are threatening to leave the GOP. dgibby Apr 2013 #58

We shall see if MM is this snarky Rex Apr 2013 #61

Chained CPI also has protections in place for the poorest elderly Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #145

Fuck "PROTECTIONS" from the President's policies. woo me with science Apr 2013 #172

How about still protecting the elderly? Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #175

War is Peace. woo me with science Apr 2013 #187

Please educate yourself about what this does. It has already adversely affected the poorest of the sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #174

So lifting the poorest elderly above the poverety line Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #181

And "...already adversely affected..." randome Apr 2013 #182

Nobody buys that. bvar22 Apr 2013 #207

No, MM, no one knows IF or WHEN or HOW MUCH. elleng Apr 2013 #49

I have a more serious question: How are the estimates of the impact being figured onenote Apr 2013 #51

The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #80

It's simple-- ignore everything you hear... TreasonousBastard Apr 2013 #92

It'll be gradual, and you'll need to do some math tkmorris Apr 2013 #55

The cuts will take effect as soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended and made applicable. Please see #64. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #83

Yeah, I know that. Thanks though. tkmorris Apr 2013 #155

There is no proposed cut to SS, only a change of how a COLA would be sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #57

Thanks. That's true. There were no COLA increases for two years. MineralMan Apr 2013 #89

As soon as 26 USC § 86 is amended to increase the amount of SS payments subject to taxation AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #64

this sort of thread must come easy for you to post after all those years posting on boilerbabe Apr 2013 #69

Hit the nail right on the head. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2013 #85

"after all those years posting on Free Republic" OhioChick Apr 2013 #88

I did post on Free Republic, until I was banned in 2006 MineralMan Apr 2013 #93

That story keeps changing, and YOU posted many times about your 'former' Freeper past that's the Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #109

"You wrote lots of horrible anti gay things there" The Link Apr 2013 #147

He self-deleted all of those back when we had Meta. Occulus Apr 2013 #176

I think your worrying a little to much GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #198

+1 Marr Apr 2013 #211

Anti-Freeping? Wind Dancer Apr 2013 #130

Zactly Maven Apr 2013 #139

Find some new material -- META is dead, get over it!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #146

Ziiiiinnnnnggggg!!! Nice one! nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #82

You do harm to the Party by even suggesting cutting Social Security. kentuck Apr 2013 #91

Hell, I'm not suggesting that Social Security be cut. MineralMan Apr 2013 #95

People are responding to the actual content of your post, not the affected pose you wrap that Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #99

I was asking an important question, though. The answer, of course, was MineralMan Apr 2013 #107

Passive aggressive posturing. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #113

Whatever you say... MineralMan Apr 2013 #118

Your question was answered in post #64. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #115

And several other times in this thread, as well. MineralMan Apr 2013 #117

I suppose that you are thanking me for kicking your thread. I didn't post such comments for that AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #143

This affectation is beneath even you. Passive aggression is the tactic of choice for folks who fear Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #96

Funny how the same people who once assured us all that Obama would never ever propose this, are now Marr Apr 2013 #97

Actually, it would be a big deal, if it were actually implemented. MineralMan Apr 2013 #125

do you not get it? Skittles Apr 2013 #135

Have you not noticed? MineralMan Apr 2013 #138

"President Obama's proposal has ensured that it will not be enacted" Skittles Apr 2013 #140

I doubt that it will happen, too-- but I don't see how this can be viewed as any sort of Marr Apr 2013 #168

Lets put faces on your callousness and indifference. bvar22 Apr 2013 #104

Rec AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #112

There is no way that this stupid and cruel proposal can be justified Jersey Devil Apr 2013 #121

OK. Here's mine: MineralMan Apr 2013 #128

PERFECT!!! bvar22 Apr 2013 #141

If a photo of a smiling elderly man in sunglasses says all of that to you, then you need ... 11 Bravo Apr 2013 #158

Hey! Who you calling elderly? MineralMan Apr 2013 #161

Hey, I took a shot. I'm pretty sure we're about the same age (I'm 62), and I sure as shit ... 11 Bravo Apr 2013 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 Apr 2013 #166

You get 2 Zantis for taking this thread in a bizarre direction! randome Apr 2013 #167

SNAP!!!!!! Number23 Apr 2013 #194

So in other words, a chunky old man with one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2013 #171

I don't recall anyone mocking folks currently taking SS or any other earned benefit..... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #131

... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #165

This thread is smartass crapola Jersey Devil Apr 2013 #114

Of course it is. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #129

Hyperbole Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #154

Grover Norquist calls it a tax increase. randome Apr 2013 #163

I caught that Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #164

Best summary in the thread. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #188

Stupider and crueler than interning Japanese Americans WonderGrunion Apr 2013 #199

So you admit it is pretty far down there on the list then... Pholus Apr 2013 #204

You might want to add the execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg Jersey Devil Apr 2013 #206

Same as it ever was. nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #200

Are you trying to talk us all into voting Republican? aandegoons Apr 2013 #119

Progressives and like minded individuals are fighting for your social security. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #122

I've been opposing Chained CPI in my communications with MineralMan Apr 2013 #132

The backlash against Obama was swift. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #136

But the Democratically controlled Senate is not in agreement, I'll wager. randome Apr 2013 #162

Dead? Not a chance. bvar22 Apr 2013 #169

Ha! greytdemocrat Apr 2013 #142

Did you vote twice again? randome Apr 2013 #160

it won't be, it will be raised for inflation on a different formula treestar Apr 2013 #173

Well, if you should happen to pass away this year your payment will probably not be cut tularetom Apr 2013 #195

Treat it like we were told to treat the sequester which was never gonna happen. Pholus Apr 2013 #201

really stuck a nerve with this one.. DCBob Apr 2013 #202

Yes. MM rally struck a nerve! bvar22 Apr 2013 #208

He wasnt attacking those things.. DCBob Apr 2013 #214

He was marginalizing and discounting the Righteous FURY of DEMOCRATS... bvar22 Apr 2013 #215

You do realize that there have been numerous changes to the social security program over the years. DCBob Apr 2013 #216

7-12 years before it is privatized, we seem to have had your permission to discuss and react to that TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #205