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In reply to the discussion: Mocking old folks who are worried about paying their bills? [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)70. That was a stunning post you just made.
Last edited Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:49 PM - Edit history (5)
You'd like to represent posts mocking YOUR ONLINE GROUP or TEAM as posts mocking seniors, the poor, the needy, the hungry....
You tell us these posts mock the poor, or seniors, or the needy. No. They're mocking your online group, the self-appointed advocates...They're not laughing at needy seniors. They're laughing at your group. Not because you're made up of or arguing on behalf of seniors, or the poor, or the needy, but because you're behaving in a ridiculous manner on this board. You conflate the two because you foolishly believe your own rhetoric. It's a ridiculous claim either way.
That was horrifying, in fact.
Perhaps it is natural, if your own primary mission is advocating for the interests of a political "team," to assume that anyone responding to you is also posting merely as part of an opposing "online group or team".....to assume that the fear and horror and anger that people express to you over these needless assaults is just "team rhetoric" like your own and could not possibly be genuine or related to their own or other actual human lives in any way.
The reflexive and facile certainty with which you announce this imaginary distinction between people talking to you at DU and "ACTUAL" Americans who would be affected by the Chained CPI says volumes about how you view these discussions and the level of seriousness you attribute to them.
DU was a discussion board for human beings on the internet before the corporate defense talking points arrived. We are people, and the vast majority of us are not paid to be here. We are out here living the policies that you so blithely assume are just rhetorical games for us. Our lives, our families' lives, are being assaulted by the one percent and their politicians who apparently also see us as just some abstract advocacy group to be defeated with clever rhetoric.
You just drove home for all of DU the problem Cal has been underscoring here, better than Cal or I or anyone else ever could. I don't think I've ever seen a post more revealing of why Americans are mad as hell at what is happening to our country and our government and our media. It is all a game of Monopoly to the one percent. The propaganda is a game. The rhetoric is a game. And the voices of Americans trying desperately to be heard by the ones wielding the ax are dismissed as just talking point scrimmages to be managed and gleefully defeated with rhetoric.
I have written several times this week that the Third Way mask has come off to reveal what corporate-style empathy and morality and compassion really look like. Your post here takes the cake.
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Yes, it's rather callous and heartbreaking. People are hurting. There are those of us
myrna minx
Apr 2013
#2
I agree. Abby Huntsman was awful on Real Time last week. She was disrespectful and stupid.
smokey nj
Apr 2013
#150
Just FYI, but we just went through a series of severe weather alerts to include a tornado warning...
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#46
I see a lot of the usual DU back-and-forth between groups that clearly don't like each other, ....
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#59
"Intellectually dishonest"? Really? I will have a VERY nice day shortly after....
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#64
Don't make any mistake about it, you are correct, they absolutely are mocking those who are
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#79
Was #46 the one that said you had to protect your family from perilous weather
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#98
Please post a link where I ridiculed any elderly and/or poor person. I'm still waiting. nt.
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#142
They are not hard to find, although considering the sources, not surprising at all.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#48
What I've seen so far has been in response to the specific posters, not comments about the
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#55
Mocking the notion that the elderly may be forced to eat cat food is not especially amusing, unless
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#61
I have a pretty good sense of humor, but I never saw any humor at all in mocking the elderly or the
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#67
Sorry, I'm still not seeing any of the "mocking" that some are claiming to see....
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#69
Some people see what they want to see...nothing anyone can do about that, either. nt.
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#97
It is about prespective. You are very emotional about your 'hard years' without a job
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#99
You must have me confused with someone else. Please link ANY post where I've ridiculed....
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#130
You can check out this thread for some pretty disgusting mocking posts about old people eating
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#56
Are you talking about me being "totally busted by Bluenorthwest"? Seriously?? In what respect?....
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#131
No, you specifically stated that I personally ridiculed the elderly and/or poor....
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#141
Let's go, bud...prove RIGHT NOW that I was "totally busted by Bluenorthwest". nt.
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#137
+1 Thank you...I looked at the links and didn't getting 'mocking' out of them. nt
snappyturtle
Apr 2013
#58
Oh yes, they are mocking seniors and those who are concerned about them. It is not a surprise to see
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#81
Give me an example of my nasty behavior. I don't belong to any group here. I am a Democrat, for me
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#86
To deny factionalism on this board is real Flat Earther territory - there are obvious factions
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2013
#105
Did ya see the one about how we are hiding behind seniors on SS? I got pissed and said
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#163
Third Way and their relentless talking points are a Wall Street creation,
woo me with science
Apr 2013
#11
Great info, but pls don't forget that just a few minutes into the First Obama-Rmoney debate
truedelphi
Apr 2013
#15
If we apply Rahm's where-else-are-they-going-to-go thinking, "knowing" does not mean "approval."
AnotherMcIntosh
Apr 2013
#27
Well of course most of the voting age population voted for neither candidate
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#104
"Also, I can say I'll never again vote for a Third Way 'centrist', nor for anyone associated
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#127
Yes and using the huge surplus in the SS fund to increase benefits, money that would cost the Fed
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#148
a rise in suicide among older retirees is inevitable if this goes through
carolinayellowdog
Apr 2013
#38
You stated: "Given that wages for younger workers have not kept pace with the
avaistheone1
Apr 2013
#22
It's always been a right wing theme. How it crept onto Democratic forums, is a question that
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#88
I know. It's especially hard if you are a woman who was NEVER paid as much as a man.(small ss check)
Harriety
Apr 2013
#95
lord knows they completely missed the fact this President has defended, protected, and enhanced
bigtree
Apr 2013
#96
So your theory is that opposing these cuts worries seniors but proposing those cuts
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#107
you act as if you're bound to misrepresent the state of politics surrounding the prospects for this
bigtree
Apr 2013
#120
Aren't the bottom quintile of seniors exempted from the chained CPI in Obama's plan? (nt)
Recursion
Apr 2013
#106
Do you understand that the CPI also dictates tax brackets and eligibilty for credits
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#109
Derail? You asked about the cuts impact, I offered you a link. You offered nothing.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#111
What were you expecting? This tiny faction has a strict playbook from which they
Egalitarian Thug
Apr 2013
#114
Not to mention the fact that SS beneficiaries do not need him or anyone else messing with their
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#132
Thank you. That a Democratic President is proposing legislation that people need "protection" from,
woo me with science
Apr 2013
#153
What's even worse is that no one needs to be 'spared'. There is enough money in the fund itself to
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#154
+10000 It is obscene. It is despicable, not the least because it is UNNECESSARY.
woo me with science
Apr 2013
#156