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PinkFloyd

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57. This is why I'm pondering giving up on voting at all...

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:24 PM

Apr 2013

It seems these days BOTH PARTIES are the same road to hell. Just one gets you there faster than the other by not offering any illusion that it doesn't care about anyone but millionaires. When so-called progressives are for cutting SS and Medicare, it's time to hang up my "chad".

But honestly...If Democrats vote for this "grand bargain", I hope and pray they lose their shirts in 2014. Yes, it'll be hard to take years of hearing idiots discuss the merits of rape and rape babies or homosexuality being like drinking and global warming denial...But I'm so sick and fucking tired of every election I ever vote in being about voting for the perceived lesser evil. Frankly, about now I'd just as soon replace Pelosi herself with a Rand Paul clone. At least then there's a chance that someday THEY might get replaced with an actual liberal.

I am so tried of being sold out.

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47 members of Congressional Progressive Caucus won't promise not to cut Social Security and Medicare [View all] unrepentant progress Apr 2013 OP

Frauds. Just like Obama. forestpath Apr 2013 #1

+1 MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #39

Obama was never a progressive LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #56

Obviously progressive doesn't mean unrealisitc michigandem58 Apr 2013 #108

Shysters SamKnause Apr 2013 #2

We need a list of these traitors. 99Forever Apr 2013 #3

The link to the list is in the article, but I'll reproduce the list here unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #5

oh my effing dawg. Chellie Pingree is on that list. magical thyme Apr 2013 #9

Gwen Moore & Mark Pocan too. Arrrgh! Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #58

they both signed the CPC letter though. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #70

I most certainly hope you're right. Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #73

Gwen inspires me. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #75

Wow! That shocked me too. Lifelong Protester Apr 2013 #104

I see my Rep is on that list. SheilaT Apr 2013 #19

You should, but also see if he's signed this statement: PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #20

Nope. SheilaT Apr 2013 #25

Oh, boo. :( Only 10 of the 47 didn't. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #29

Then why not sign that Grayson thing? gateley Apr 2013 #79

you know very well I cannot answer for any, let alone 47 of them. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #80

it's not a grover norquisty pledge. it's a pledge not to cut social security. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #85

I agree PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #87

I don't. The norquisty pledge is working for the pubs. Too bad our team can't even take a stand HiPointDem Apr 2013 #88

I am taking a stand. Most of the 47 are civil rights heroes. I will 100% back those 47. graham4anything Apr 2013 #96

Alan and Ron Paul seem to have a lot in common. graham4anything Apr 2013 #90

Are equating Alan Grayson with Grover Norquist? neverforget Apr 2013 #92

Blood oaths? How Ron Paulish. graham4anything Apr 2013 #93

You can't even answer the question neverforget Apr 2013 #94

Alan Grayson voted twice as the only democratic officeholder with Ron Paul FOR austerity. graham4anything Apr 2013 #95

You didn't answer the question. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #97

47 -most are civil rights heroes which is far more important issue to the Democratic party. graham4anything Apr 2013 #99

so do you & the boggers. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #98

phew! Chellie signed it. magical thyme Apr 2013 #103

That is truly a show-stopper Samantha Apr 2013 #45

Wtf????? tblue Apr 2013 #59

I am going to call them and thank them for not caving to the 5%. graham4anything Apr 2013 #71

No surprise DJ13 Apr 2013 #82

Shelia Jackson Lee?? Joe Kennedy III??? Jim McDermott??? Charlie Ragel??? WTF???? gateley Apr 2013 #76

47 heroes. 47 people Ron Paul would love to get rid of. graham4anything Apr 2013 #91

Would never have guessed 3. quakerboy Apr 2013 #102

Well, mine is on the list but doesn't require a stern talking to... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #111

+1 magellan Apr 2013 #6

. ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #4

I think it's fine as a one-off tactic unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #7

. ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #8

We've never had to really worry about Social Security being cut before unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #10

But if they vote against SS, we WILL primary them. Squinch Apr 2013 #62

It's called having a boundary... 99Forever Apr 2013 #13

Exactly unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #16

Well said. woo me with science Apr 2013 #49

Thank you Woo... 99Forever Apr 2013 #67

Why not? quakerboy Apr 2013 #100

Mel Watt? Oh hell, no. octoberlib Apr 2013 #11

The four, core principles of the Progressive Promise: magellan Apr 2013 #12

Someone got to them Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #14

anthrax, anyone? works every time. nt valerief Apr 2013 #38

I think many of them don't want to do anything choie Apr 2013 #61

Oh please let it not be that. tblue Apr 2013 #63

Hopefully no one on this board is still under the delusion that this is indepat Apr 2013 #15

If it isn't apparent to anyone yet, it never will be. raouldukelives Apr 2013 #54

Before everyone freaks out on some of these FINE Democrats, read the CPC statements on CPI PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #17

So why won't 47 of them sign the letter? magellan Apr 2013 #21

I am not sure, we should ask them. But I do not believe for a second that many of those would PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #22

I did read it magellan Apr 2013 #24

Only 10 of those 47 didn't sign the CPC letter. They are: PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #27

Even more interesting magellan Apr 2013 #30

Thanks, that would be cool. Or ask him to reply here!! :) PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #32

Drats, I wish I'd thought of that magellan Apr 2013 #35

I have severe "Representative envy" of you and many others. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #36

Oh my magellan Apr 2013 #46

I had the same reaction dflprincess Apr 2013 #55

Ben Ray Lujan SheilaT Apr 2013 #47

Oh, thanks for clarifying!! PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #48

Let us know what he says... haikugal Apr 2013 #68

These Representatives need a MILLION telephone calls a day until these cuts are DEFEATED. Faryn Balyncd Apr 2013 #18

Okay, here's the text of my email: SheilaT Apr 2013 #23

Nicely stated magellan Apr 2013 #31

The Ides of April is definitely here villager Apr 2013 #26

the whole pledge thingy is bullshit... spanone Apr 2013 #28

By their fruits ye shall know them jsr Apr 2013 #33

Wait a minute... PennsylvaniaMatt Apr 2013 #34

I do not agree with your unsupported assertion that willingness to compromise and Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #66

Well, A Gallup poll backs up my claim about the GOP and the notion of "compromise" PennsylvaniaMatt Apr 2013 #72

You don't compromise with destroying 80 years of Democratic policies, period. duffyduff Apr 2013 #106

point taken daybranch Apr 2013 #78

You seem to be in the minority here... cheapdate Apr 2013 #86

Time for me to call Marc Pocan. AllyCat Apr 2013 #37

He signed the CPC letter... PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #41

they need to be primaried in 2014 then if they're up for election stupidicus Apr 2013 #40

+100000 woo me with science Apr 2013 #50

At a minimum, yes Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #60

ridiculous. how many of those representatives do you know anything about? PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #83

I'll leave that up to their constituents to determine stupidicus Apr 2013 #107

You mean like the Norquist pledge? That's a stupid idea, to sign a promise against some future event Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #42

I didn't see your post before I posted my own. randome Apr 2013 #65

But it's not some vague future event unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #89

I'm against the Norquist pledge, and anything like it. Which this would be. For one thing... Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #110

jerks hog Apr 2013 #43

Of the N.J. names, Holt is the biggest surprise. jerseyjack Apr 2013 #44

WTF? I thought double negatives (..WON'T promise to NOT cut..) are supposed to be positive?? 99th_Monkey Apr 2013 #51

I guess 'Progressive' doesn't mean what it used to mean. nt valerief Apr 2013 #52

I'm more interested in action than in loyalty oaths. winter is coming Apr 2013 #53

This is why I'm pondering giving up on voting at all... PinkFloyd Apr 2013 #57

* Sigh * randome Apr 2013 #69

They should no more promise this than Republicans should pledge not to raise taxes. randome Apr 2013 #64

Of course. Congressmen take a pledge to uphold the Constitution.. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #81

Great Now we have PINOs Pregressives In Name Only diabeticman Apr 2013 #74

Maybe they are being realistic about the big picture. Hoyt Apr 2013 #77

Congressional Progressives for/against the SS cpi gimmick! ReRe Apr 2013 #84

So the question needs to be asked; what, exactly, do they see their "progress" leading towards? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #101

I have been telling you we have a government run by and for gangsters duffyduff Apr 2013 #105

You think they "aren't Democrats" because they didn't sign this? Bullshit. How many do you know? PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #109