So then let's just get rid of all the stop signs.

[freshwest]

60. I know... Alternatively, how about a sign saying they're being filmed at the Stop sign? Install

something dangling from a line across the street or street light. It does have an effect if they're paying attention.

It should not have to be a death to get the city to change from a Stop sign to a Stop light, either. Although that's been done here if there is one.

A Stop light is much more noticeable and more likely to get compliance.

Too bad about them not allowing a bump as we described. I've seen them on streets here. Several streets have reduced speed, traffic circles that you must slow to get past an intersection, planted with bushes, etc.

We also have streets with warnings on them like 'children at play' or 'deaf child lives here' that makes people think. It's good to get them to think about the people that live in an area, that they do respect their neighbors and they are intruding on the street where people live, not a speedway.

Those circles and bumps - they make them pay attention. Sorry about the cat there. Could have be prevented. We have some streets with speed limits as low as 10 to 15 mph. Since there are a lot of people of all ages and conditions here.