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delrem

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48. Interesting that you fall back on Norquist, of all people.

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 12:19 AM

Apr 2013

Look, now that Pres. Obama has said chained CPI is OK with him, no budget will go through without it, as Norquist the poker player knows. Everyone knows that now, including the writer of the OP. What Pres. Obama has laid down is, to the opposition Republican mind, *by definition* a position such that no proposal "to the left" of it would be acceptable, and they have Obama on their side to hammer that home. Understand?

This isn't poker, it's negotiation, and it's negotiation where under the rubric of a so-called "bipartisan" president the left concedes, and concedes, until left=right and no trace of progressive positions remain, and where the US is going into the second term of the Democratic administration with the Republicans having conceded *nothing* of any substance, the "bipartisan" Democratic president now heavy into serious cuts.

It isn't only Pres. Obama's fault that this has happened, the blame extends over the whole Democratic Party and it obviously requires some serious rethinking of strategy. It *doesn't* require a pretense that this isn't happening under Pres. Obama's watch.

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The Obama 'panic' amuses me [View all] DainBramaged Apr 2013 OP

I think what we are doing is better than sitting on our hands. trumad Apr 2013 #1

Really? A bazillion angry threads on DU is NOT sitting on our hands? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #25

What you said. cliffordu Apr 2013 #41

My dear DainBramaged... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #2

I think he's made the political calculation that he can take the heat Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #3

If the price of the "grand bargain".... sendero Apr 2013 #6

Bipartisanship = something that can pass both House and Senate. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #10

Obama posted at DK when he was a new senator ... slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #14

Compromise... sendero Apr 2013 #17

Totally agree... slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #27

It's a dangerous, ugly game Warpy Apr 2013 #29

This has gone around too many times. delrem Apr 2013 #43

Yes. Control-Z Apr 2013 #4

There are legitimate concerns about Chanined CPI, and then there is just insane rhetoric... PennsylvaniaMatt Apr 2013 #5

+1 sheshe2 Apr 2013 #8

Thank you sheshe! PennsylvaniaMatt Apr 2013 #13

Well said...nt SidDithers Apr 2013 #44

++++POST OF THE THREAD++++ uponit7771 Apr 2013 #57

There is no panic as he is just doing what he said he would do prior to the first innauguration... slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #7

DainBramaged, sheshe2 Apr 2013 #9

I think in the scheme of things, folks are overreacting, especially with the protections, Hoyt Apr 2013 #11

while my intuition tells me to wait and see, i can understand the panic 0rganism Apr 2013 #12

Well, that was 45 seconds of my life I could have used for other purposes . . . hatrack Apr 2013 #15

yeah, worried older folks is a laugh/riot! hahahahahahahahahaha boilerbabe Apr 2013 #16

There was absolutely nothing in the OP Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #52

I trust Bernie Sanders judgement on this one frylock Apr 2013 #18

Without hesitation - I do, too. 840high Apr 2013 #22

who is pulling the chain, that is the question. mopinko Apr 2013 #19

Keeping score madamesilverspurs Apr 2013 #20

He caved on single-payer... Webster Green Apr 2013 #32

You need to keep better score Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #35

Oh, brother. He *offered* Chained CPI. Do you understand that...? Marr Apr 2013 #38

He also caved on free trade agreements. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #46

NDAA, "Kill Lists," torture and rendition, settlements for corrupt banks, woo me with science Apr 2013 #47

"What have the Romans done for us?" Babel_17 Apr 2013 #51

Fiddle while Rome burns if you must Fearless Apr 2013 #21

Ja, javul fascisthunter Apr 2013 #23

You're no damned fun. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #24

I'm still with you 100% DB Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #26

Your concern is noted. (nt) DirkGently Apr 2013 #28

Thanks. elleng Apr 2013 #30

Interesting that you fall back on Norquist, of all people. delrem Apr 2013 #48

Its poker; THEY are NOT negotiating. elleng Apr 2013 #49

Sheesh, don't you understand that Norquist and co. will be demanding, and getting, more???? nt delrem Apr 2013 #50

Hey Dain, Cha Apr 2013 #31

Humongous K & R... Surya Gayatri Apr 2013 #33

The UAW and AFL-CIO are opposed to it. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #34

If everyone was as calm as the President's defenders recommend, we'd have Chained CPI-- and worse-- Marr Apr 2013 #36

Obama wil NOT all of a sudden find a spine or some fight. He is ... Hotler Apr 2013 #37

We'll see who is "panicking" come... 99Forever Apr 2013 #39

Panic, no. Anger yes. caseymoz Apr 2013 #40

No panic. Just enlightenment. But no amusement, either. nt delrem Apr 2013 #42

I'm sorry your toilet is broken. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #45

It's amazing to me that some don't get it magellan Apr 2013 #53

"We just don't know enough to make judgements." Why is that? Why the secrecy? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #54

It takes courage and strength to ask an honest question. I admire what you just did even if patrice Apr 2013 #55

No breaks, I know that benefits are too meager and are too long delayed. TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #56