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bobclark86

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197. The first Dem in my district announced this week...

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 01:05 AM

Apr 2013

and 20 months out, I know they're fucked. A boilerplate Dem can't win in this district (they've tried for 30 years now, and got their asses kicked each and every time... occasionally by 30 points).

You need something that at least a few center-right independents can sign on to in some way. With some of the most conservative counties in the state, you need to do more than just show up with party talking points and expect to win anything at all.

Unless somebody really special comes in, Tom Reed doesn't even need to campaign... again.

Get me Shawn Hogan (longest-tenured city mayor in New York... but I don't think Shawn will want to deal with that bullcrap with his sweet gig in Hornell), or pretty much anyone other than ANOTHER bloody Tompkins County legislator. We tried that last time, and with a piss-poor campaign (we're talking dead silence after the primary -- literally months between press releases) and the perceived Ithaca ivory tower mentality that nobody else can stand, we wound up winning only one of 10 counties (losing Tompkins would have just been embarrassing...).

Wake me up when my party is serious about a win in my district. With no Senate races, I could not honestly care less...

Signed,
--A Very Bored Dem in NY-23.

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Pissed at President Obama? Feel Like Skipping 2014? [View all] MineralMan Apr 2013 OP

Skipping 2014??? I'm more motivated for 2014 than ever! arcane1 Apr 2013 #1

Outstanding! nt MineralMan Apr 2013 #2

Same here, we really need to turn out a neuter these repukes! ISW Apr 2013 #82

IS OBAMA AN UNDERCOVER REPUBLICAN HowHasItComeToThis Apr 2013 #101

I used to think so FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #106

My conclusion: Yes. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #115

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+1, MineralMan. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #3

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You're the man. The MineralMan. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #12

Ain't that always the case? MineralMan Apr 2013 #19

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I can see being upset and concerned. HappyMe Apr 2013 #41

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once again we will be voting against something Skittles Apr 2013 #4

And the Republican turnout will be driven nobodyspecial Apr 2013 #15

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it occurred to me today Skittles Apr 2013 #142

I would say that the *one percent corporatists* always get what they want. woo me with science Apr 2013 #175

worthy of its own thread Skittles Apr 2013 #185

+1000 blackspade Apr 2013 #199

Back atcha nt broadcaster75201 Apr 2013 #148

Ayuh. Isn't it always the way? GreenPartyVoter Apr 2013 #177

No and no. Rex Apr 2013 #5

Some folks are openly saying that they plan to do just that, MineralMan Apr 2013 #10

For some reason I don't believe they represent the other 1000s Rex Apr 2013 #16

I don't think they do, either. MineralMan Apr 2013 #21

It is and was easy to get recs/unrecs on DU2. Rex Apr 2013 #31

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I hope very sincerely that you are correct. MineralMan Apr 2013 #167

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There was a lot of "teach them a lesson, don't vote" crap in 2012 too. arcane1 Apr 2013 #17

I question someone like thats true intentions. Rex Apr 2013 #22

Just because you.. sendero Apr 2013 #162

Votes must matter, 5catjenny May 2013 #212

why anyone would think Dems would NOT vote in the next elections Flashmann Apr 2013 #45

Yeah...this is NOT one of those instances Rex Apr 2013 #54

You mentioned what happened in 2010. Some people are afraid that 2010 totodeinhere Apr 2013 #169

Some people are afraid that 2010 could happen again Flashmann Apr 2013 #179

Well, it happened in 2010 jeff47 Apr 2013 #86

And this I never understood. It's stupid. Don't people realize that Obama is not on the ballot? Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #172

Mid-term elections almost always favor the party that's not in the White House Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #191

Of course I know this. Midterm elections always favor the party not represented in the White House. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #192

Once again, Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #193

And once again, enough so-called progressives stayed home that liberal stalwarts like Russ Feingold Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #210

But that's what they did in 2010, upset with Obama because he didn't magically clean up the economy Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #171

ya, now we need new dems to counter the repubs and the president. let's go get em! nt msongs Apr 2013 #6

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I know a lot of true believer Democrats who have already given up. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #7

So, just throw in the towel. HappyMe Apr 2013 #11

I have made the prescribed calls and emails. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #29

So you will be voting Green or repuke in 2014 then? HappyMe Apr 2013 #47

As angry as I am I don't think I could ever vote Repuke. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #58

I looked into the Greens. HappyMe Apr 2013 #66

Meh, what? avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #78

This administration is not running in 2014. MineralMan Apr 2013 #49

Understood. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #61

I see. Well, I guess I'll have to work even harder, then. MineralMan Apr 2013 #13

You're downer attitude has made me give up. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #18

You have given me a good laugh. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #44

Agree. No my focus is getting my masters and getting out of the country. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #27

A few years ago that idea seemed extreme to me, avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #39

Rather than causing me to give up it motivates me all the more to work for and totodeinhere Apr 2013 #170

It's never a good time HappyMe Apr 2013 #9

We do, indeed. MineralMan Apr 2013 #14

Then we don't need our base demoralized and kicked under the bus... tokenlib Apr 2013 #20

I'm voting FOR a Democratic majority in Congress. MineralMan Apr 2013 #26

The party has our votes..they need our hearts...that is my point. N/T tokenlib Apr 2013 #42

You have one heart. MineralMan Apr 2013 #46

You vote to protect your interests...if that's not enough motivation, then by all means,.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #38

I'm simply saying there are ways to bring people together..and ways to push people away.. tokenlib Apr 2013 #67

Agreed! GreenPartyVoter Apr 2013 #178

Problem is, there are so many more like him. progressoid Apr 2013 #23

So many like who? MineralMan Apr 2013 #28

I'll be voting and volunteering on the national and state level. octoberlib Apr 2013 #24

I'm very dissappointed with much of Obama's policies. But, I'm sure as hell going to vote ladjf Apr 2013 #25

Thank you! MineralMan Apr 2013 #30

Obama was in the position to have become one of the greatest Presidents. But, for ladjf Apr 2013 #34

Then let's get a Democratic Congress to send him some MineralMan Apr 2013 #51

That's a good goal. nt ladjf Apr 2013 #84

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I agree with a single caveat Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #32

That ain't happening before 2014. MineralMan Apr 2013 #40

Shooting oneself in the foot comes to mind treestar Apr 2013 #33

Well, that's a trend we need to counter. MineralMan Apr 2013 #43

You nailed it. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2013 #138

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Yes I'm ROYALLY pissed at his lying ass. And NO. I'm NOT SKIPPING 2014! ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2013 #36

I expect to be very active in 2014. hay rick Apr 2013 #48

Thank you very much! MineralMan Apr 2013 #50

A) YES. B) NO. bullwinkle428 Apr 2013 #52

I WILL NOT skip the opportunity to exercise my vote--it's the only way to keep it healthy! lastlib Apr 2013 #53

makes me more determined to elect progressives! ebbie15644 Apr 2013 #55

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And how did that primary affect the general? tabbycat31 Apr 2013 #114

I'm glad you brought that up. bvar22 Apr 2013 #141

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Brilliantly well criticized and documented LooseWilly Apr 2013 #201

I wouldn't skip 2014 if you paid me. WAY too much is at stake. Hekate Apr 2013 #59

Excellent! MineralMan Apr 2013 #122

And let a Tea Partier win? LeftInTX Apr 2013 #60

A voice of reason in a sea of hopelessness. Thanks, M.M. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #62

So THIS time it's going to be different? MindPilot Apr 2013 #63

It is up to you, really. MineralMan Apr 2013 #123

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K&R Scuba Apr 2013 #69

In Case You Need Motivation allinthegame Apr 2013 #70

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Only genuine liberals, and not centrist turd-wayers, will ever get my vote again whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #72

K&R SunSeeker Apr 2013 #75

If we don't turn out in 2014, more states will end up the way NC did in 2010. Not pretty. mnhtnbb Apr 2013 #76

Our Democratic president damnedifIknow Apr 2013 #77

Skipping 2014 would be one of the stupidest moves we voters could make. liberal N proud Apr 2013 #79

+100 MineralMan Apr 2013 #126

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The motivation to me will always be MzNov Apr 2013 #81

Exactly! Pissed at PO? Go over his head by... ReRe Apr 2013 #83

Yes, by all means, vote for the party that screwed you over MadHound Apr 2013 #85

Good way to keep 840high Apr 2013 #90

Actually, if the Democratic party goes away due to lack of votes, MadHound Apr 2013 #91

You're right. We'll be much better off with a Republican majority in the Senate. name not needed Apr 2013 #108

I stopped listening to you long ago. MineralMan Apr 2013 #127

When and how can we get rid of Baa-ach-mann? Harriety Apr 2013 #88

2014, if we are determined. MineralMan Apr 2013 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Apr 2013 #89

Left leaning Independents may stay home, just like they did in 2010. Zorra Apr 2013 #92

The more fools they, then. MineralMan Apr 2013 #130

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K&R BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #93

So you say don't waste your vote by not voting then you say. aandegoons Apr 2013 #94

I'm motivated to get rid of DLC pukes like we have now. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #95

I'm completely pissed, but there will NEVER be a midterm election that I skip DearHeart Apr 2013 #96

2014 is pretty fucked as thing sit. It isn't up to a handful of DUers HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #97

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I respectfully disagree. Moostache Apr 2013 #124

I am looking forward to voting in 2014. lucca18 Apr 2013 #100

2014 starts today. Every single politician who supports these cuts has to be brutally primaried Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #102

+1 Marr Apr 2013 #105

But, as happened in VA this last election, the Dem machine doesn't seem to "brutally Nay Apr 2013 #187

Oh but don't you understand..... Rosco T. Apr 2013 #103

It's funny, in my State we set record turnout for a midterm in 2010...what did you do wrong? Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #111

Because I'm pissed at him I'm more inclined to vote. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #104

Thank You unapatriciated Apr 2013 #131

Fuck that. Marr Apr 2013 #107

Yes indeed! nt flamingdem Apr 2013 #109

Focus now should be on the PRIMARY campaigns. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #110

This OP is so insincere it's ridiculous. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #112

I remember the 2010 election when people Stellar Apr 2013 #113

+1,000,000! calimary Apr 2013 #116

I assume that what he'd like us to do. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #117

You are correct. redqueen Apr 2013 #118

Thank you! MineralMan Apr 2013 #132

They're the same people coming here bitching and moaning...about voting.. Historic NY Apr 2013 #119

It's hard to get pumped upped about 2014 when unapatriciated Apr 2013 #120

Lots of things are hard. MineralMan Apr 2013 #133

re-read my post unapatriciated Apr 2013 #135

You will do what pleases you, MineralMan Apr 2013 #136

just as you did. unapatriciated Apr 2013 #137

I will be blunt: if the DLC doesn't curb Obama on this then the hell with them. Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #121

The thing that burns my ass. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #129

An excellent question, indeed. MineralMan Apr 2013 #134

We've done our part, we elected a man who pretended to be on our team Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #140

The real question is when will the pols listen and learn? on point Apr 2013 #150

Voting against your own best interests zeeland Apr 2013 #143

Pissed off? LWolf Apr 2013 #144

I refer you to 2010 Arkana Apr 2013 #145

I haven't missed a single election in my life. This time? GO THIRD PARTY! on point Apr 2013 #146

Yes. No. broadcaster75201 Apr 2013 #147

When our party's leader has set an anti-SS agenda... Orsino Apr 2013 #149

...becasue the last time they had a majority they really did a lot. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #151

Are you working on getting an FDR Democrat up for President?. Needed more than ever now. kickysnana Apr 2013 #152

Re: Jackal87 Apr 2013 #153

I'm working on the 2014 elections. MineralMan Apr 2013 #154

All Of Us In Ohio Would Like To Thank 2010's "Foot-Stompers" For John K-Suck ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2013 #155

Mid-term elections are about legislators, MineralMan Apr 2013 #157

You play, you pay. It's simple. 99Forever Apr 2013 #156

Do as you please. MineralMan Apr 2013 #159

Thanks for your permission. 99Forever Apr 2013 #160

You don't need anyone's permission to do nothing. MineralMan Apr 2013 #161

oh bullshit...... BrainDrain Apr 2013 #163

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Any chance to vote against Vicky Hartzler xmas74 Apr 2013 #165

Not mad enough to not vote Lifelong Protester Apr 2013 #168

Not skipping 2014 because of men like Grayson, AND because of Obama for opposite & mother earth Apr 2013 #174

The Immigration Reform bill will help us go over the top BanTheGOP Apr 2013 #180

Actually, that would take a long time. MineralMan Apr 2013 #181

Actually, it will, and the POINT if fasttracking the bill is to ensure enough voters 2014 BanTheGOP Apr 2013 #182

Michelle Bachman boomerbust Apr 2013 #183

We can't sit out! Indyfan53 Apr 2013 #184

Unfortunately Yukari Yakumo Apr 2013 #188

Right...because "Hold your nose and vote... nonoxy9 Apr 2013 #190

I will be voting and doing my part to encourage others to vote davidpdx Apr 2013 #194

2014, local, state, and federal!! 2014! mountain grammy Apr 2013 #195

This whole uproar is part of the right-wing tactics melody Apr 2013 #196

The first Dem in my district announced this week... bobclark86 Apr 2013 #197

I plan on voting regardless, but blackspade Apr 2013 #198

Anybody reading this post (or any other on DU) is likely voting in 2014 SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #200

Skip 2014? But... my rep is one of the ones working to stop Obama's stupid ideas... LooseWilly Apr 2013 #202

Thanks for making it that much harder for the REAL DEMOCRATS in 2014/2016, BHO. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #203

We'll still end up with corporate sponsored candidates... Mr.Pain Apr 2013 #204

I'll never skip out on voting Skittles Apr 2013 #205

I have no problem voting Dem in 2014. My rep promised not to support the cuts. merrily Apr 2013 #206

All republicans are bad. Diremoon Apr 2013 #207

Politicians who side with RepUGLYcans do not deserve our votes. Conium Apr 2013 #208

Hear, hear!! LaPera Apr 2013 #209