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In reply to the discussion: Never. Gonna. Happen. [View all]stanchaz
(50 posts)27. All it takes for it to "happen"...is for good men to do nothing
No matter what you call it: A cut is a cut is a CUT. And it will HURT.
Those who retire today would get $650 less a year when they are 75 ....and over $1,100 less a year when they reach age 85. This, when more than two-thirds of senior beneficiaries rely on Social Security for over HALF their income. Maybe the President needs to revise his stump speech to if you work hard, and play by the rules .....then youll get shafted!
Come on, Mr. Obama: Do you REALLY want to throw Grandma off the train?
Sir, do you REALLY want to throw disabled vets receiving benefits...under the bus?
Is THIS the Barack Obama that we voted for? ...the Barack we BELIEVED in?
This is not a "Grand Bargain , Sir. Your chained C.P.I. proposal
(which decreases annual Social Security & Disabled Veteran Cost of Living COLAS)
is nothing but a GRAND BETRAYAL.
Its a betrayal of the promises, a betrayal of the ideals, and a betrayal of the programs that Democrats have fought for ....long and hard ....over the years.
The elderly, struggling thru their final years on earth --they deserve better than this!
Those disabled by war or disease -- they deserve better than this!
And those blameless children and orphans receiving benefits --they deserve better than this!
And we --we as a society-- surely deserve better than this.
The annual COLA is critically important to millions --and not only to retirees. The administrations budget cuts cost-of-living increases for current and future Social Security beneficiaries by $130 billion over 10 years, and much more in future years. Lowering the presently insufficient COLA... with a "Chained C.P.I. " - is a discredited and dishonest way of calculating annual cost-of-living increases that does not keep up with actual costs, and eats into benefits of recipients. Switching to a chained CPI will permanently cut COLAS , and the longer you live, the worse it gets. Call it what it is - plain and simple: a cut. People will suffer. Real people. Real suffering. Real pain.
And whats worse is the fact is that Social Security doesnt contribute a dime to the deficit. It is funded by payroll taxes, and currently enjoys a $2.7 trillion surplus, enough to fund the program without any changes until 2033. Social Security is a regressive flat tax, like a retail tax. It is the same rate for everyone regardless of income, and at present it is it is capped at $113,700. But...on income above that level,the rich dont have to pay Social Security tax. Theres a simple solution to making it even more solvent: Raise -oe ELIMINATE_ the cap on the Social Security payroll tax for higher income earners. And secondly, pass the immigration reform bill, bringing 12 million legal, younger workers into the system.
Don't make me ASHAMED of being a lifelong Democrat,and your supporter, Mr. President --
by compromising away your basic principles, your promises, and your fundamental ideals.
REAL Democrats dont cut Social Security. Heck, they CREATED it. When one out of four profitable U.S. corporations doesnt pay a penny in taxes, ask THEM to do their fair share first- before you even THINK of cutting Social Security! Dont try to balance the budget on the backs of the most vulnerable, and the least of these. Dont use the old, the young, the poor, and the disabled as pawns in these political games ..while the super-rich continue to laugh all the way to the bank, and their off shore tax havens. Thats not compromise or compassion - its capitulation. Its immoral, shameful, and wrong to ask senior citizens, veterans and the disabled to pay for the greed and mistakes of the top 1% -- at a time when corporations and the wealthiest are not paying their fair share of taxes, despite soaring profits. For the debt we have comes from a decade of tax cuts for the wealthy, unlimited spending on foreign wars, and a recession caused by unregulated Wall Street speculation and greed. Are we to then punish the victims even more, America? Is that what weve come to?
Any person in Congress who votes for this proposal will live to regret it -and remember it- because WE will not forget it: ....NOT in the primaries ......NOT in he media .... NOT at the fund raisers ...and most definitely- NOt in the polling booth on Election Day! Unfortunately, you havent shown yourself to be much of a fighter, Mr. President. Well, you've got a HELL of a fight on your hands now, from your own Party, -unless you come to your senses. Year after year, you keep on trying to compromise towards the so-called middle- while they openly laugh and jeer at you, and keep moving the goalposts to the right. Again, ...and again, ...and again! Stop --- and stand your ground, Mr. Obama! BE the real change that you wanted, and promised. Make us proud and hopeful ....not ashamed, duped, and abandoned. You should be rallying Americans to protect and strengthen our already inadequate Social Security system. For the real crisis that we face isn't that Social Security benefits are too generous; it is that more and more Americans lack the means for a secure retirement. Drop this misguided Chained C.P.I. proposal, Mr. President. For you are better than this. WE are better than this! We cannot -we will not- allow our Social Security system to be chipped away and dismantled inch by inch.
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That whooshing sound was another point flying right over your head. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Apr 2013
#1
So clifford, if we are ever in the same room and I'm bluffing at cards and you know it
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#43
Claiming it is an innoculation is like an arsonist claiming he is preventing future fires.
Demo_Chris
Apr 2013
#33
And he's on record with the false belief that SS contributes to the deficit. That's what burns
Nay
Apr 2013
#67
I was told by his supporters that he included it to show the public how awful Republicans are.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#20
I think so too, considering who told me why this president put this awful proposal in the budget.
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#78
I understand it very well. You give a LITTLE and they give a LOT if you are a good negotiator and
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#105
SS had nothing to do with the Deficit. Any Democrat who perpetuates that Republican lie
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#113
As was your initial response, not acknoweldging what I said, but changing the subject.
Sheepshank
Apr 2013
#156
no it's not going to happend - because even suggesting it causes an uproar. Imagine what the powers
Douglas Carpenter
Apr 2013
#19
You're lying because you are crying. Hair on fire would seem to be a requirement to set the scene.
TheKentuckian
Apr 2013
#26
I thought the same thing about Freedom of Speech and the Right to Free assembly.
dtom67
Apr 2013
#35
Cliff says 'if your friend is bluffing in poker and you know it, tell everyone in the room'
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#44
oh yeah, it's great to have democrats filibustering a democratic presidents bill.
boston bean
Apr 2013
#40
I can't disagree that it just sucks to have to push off of your own party's president
bigtree
Apr 2013
#69
Yeah, well said. I'm stunned by the people on DU who cannot see that the offer itself is
Nay
Apr 2013
#68
True--I can generally suss out the trolls, but sometimes I read somebody who's been here
Nay
Apr 2013
#90
"You live in a world where a Democratic President put Social Security on the table during a deficit
Number23
Apr 2013
#128
It's already happened. Democrats want to take away your social security.
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2013
#53
This is like releasing an attempted purse snatcher, because the police caught him.
Marr
Apr 2013
#71
and when it doesn't happen (which it never was going to), the disgruntled PUMAS and greens on DU
dionysus
Apr 2013
#91
Good luck convincing the Obama-Hater Club of anything, particularly anything that appears....
OldDem2012
Apr 2013
#93
We know it is not going to happen. But he just killed our chances in the mid-terms.
ieoeja
Apr 2013
#97
If it's never going to happen, then why not offer a tax rate of 40% or higher on the
neverforget
Apr 2013
#114