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Warren DeMontague

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21. There seems to be widespread disagreement on what the word "Feminism" even means.

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 03:13 AM

Apr 2013

As for marital faithfulness being 'relevant', I suppose it depends on the context, not just of the definition of Feminism but also how marital faithfulness (using at least the generally agreed upon definition of that) would relate to it.

If, for instance, divorce laws treated unfaithful women different than unfaithful men, I would think it might be relevant to Feminism. Or any other way that questions of faithfulness might plug into marriage law.

Furthermore, if there was a general societal expectation that men could or would be unfaithful but women couldn't (think Don Draper) ... that, to my mind, would relate to questions of Feminism.

If you're talking about a brand of Feminism that rejects the concept of marriage outright; if there is such a thing- then probably marital faithfulness or lack thereof would be beside the point.

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"Marital faithfulness is irrelevant to feminism" : Discuss [View all] Taverner Apr 2013 OP

Faithfulness in a marriage HappyMe Apr 2013 #1

I agree with the little person.. one_voice Apr 2013 #12

Agree, and agree. n/t LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #30

No but its relevant to being a human Drale Apr 2013 #2

Well, yours is certainly ONE opinion MNBrewer Apr 2013 #10

True, but misleading. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #3

This. nt redqueen Apr 2013 #5

Feminism is Ethics; Faithfulness is Morals Taverner Apr 2013 #7

I don't think there's a universally-applied distinction between the two. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #8

Sure there is. Taverner Apr 2013 #9

There is no universal difference between the two. Many philosophers use them interchangeably. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #16

i actually like this distinction and find it helpful.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #28

Define "faithfulness" MNBrewer Apr 2013 #11

I think it's whatever the couple decides on BainsBane Apr 2013 #18

I don't, but I think you possibly should be for different reasons. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #20

Separate issues get the red out Apr 2013 #4

whatever someone may say about it RainDog Apr 2013 #6

Maybe it's a straight thing MNBrewer Apr 2013 #13

I'm gay Aerows Apr 2013 #14

This exactly. It's between the married people and no one else. Butterbean Apr 2013 #19

To me? Aerows Apr 2013 #23

Yes, I was agreeing with your post above mine. Sorry, my brain is scrambled these days. n/t Butterbean Apr 2013 #33

Then, IMO, you've made a commitment to monogamy, not a commitment to the relationship MNBrewer Apr 2013 #22

A commitment to the relationship Aerows Apr 2013 #24

I think it's a married with children thing RainDog Apr 2013 #17

Threesomes Aerows Apr 2013 #26

to each her/his own and all that RainDog Apr 2013 #32

Even polyamorous people usually pledge faithfulness to those they are dating. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #15

There seems to be widespread disagreement on what the word "Feminism" even means. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #21

Trust maintained when offered is relevant to everyone. Posteritatis Apr 2013 #25

To my mind unconnected; and I'm not interested in either as a MORAL issue. snot Apr 2013 #27

it's actually fairly simple.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #29

I am not married, but have been in a number of relationships where it was understood that smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #31