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pipi_k

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49. What?

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 10:19 AM

Apr 2013

OMG!!!!

when did all that happen?

You mean to tell me that people can't criticize the government in public?

And people can't assemble for a peaceful demonstration?

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Never. Gonna. Happen. [View all] cliffordu Apr 2013 OP

That whooshing sound was another point flying right over your head. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #1

True that. n/t ohheckyeah Apr 2013 #3

Well, gee. cliffordu Apr 2013 #5

Don't buy your argument newthinking Apr 2013 #29

Why on earth would you think they were surprised by the response? bornskeptic Apr 2013 #148

Surprised by the breadth of the response newthinking Apr 2013 #150

You're counting on GOP obstinance for the wrong thing. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #45

That may be, and I hope you're right. BUT... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #2

Your right, it is WRONG! GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #17

My dear GiveMeFreedom! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #21

Agreed Liberalynn Apr 2013 #65

I don't see anybody having the vapors. ohheckyeah Apr 2013 #4

That politics is politics. cliffordu Apr 2013 #8

For many people that isn't the point. ohheckyeah Apr 2013 #10

Keep Watching. cliffordu Apr 2013 #11

I've been watching and haven't ohheckyeah Apr 2013 #13

you act as if he always one ups Skittles Apr 2013 #111

SS is not politics, it is the people's fund. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #18

So clifford, if we are ever in the same room and I'm bluffing at cards and you know it Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #43

Seriously, this "bluff" line is just so stupid. Marr Apr 2013 #73

No one is claiming Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #79

I'm sorry, really-- but that's even more absurd. Marr Apr 2013 #81

"No one is reading it that way ... Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #82

Which would back up my point. Marr Apr 2013 #83

Im sure the voters will be real upset with the GOP quakerboy Apr 2013 #84

And where does that refusal leave the Republicans? Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #86

Right where they are right now, except stronger quakerboy Apr 2013 #89

Sorry, but this discussion is ridiculous. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #92

You are wrong on all counts except the first quakerboy Apr 2013 #94

As I said, this discussion is ridiculous. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #96

If you are gonna use a poker analogy HangOnKids Apr 2013 #80

Zee shpeling police arrive and cliffordu Apr 2013 #85

Agreed...He's playing poker with a bunch of selfish, evil, dumb bunnies! Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #107

If he hadn't put this in his budget proposal madokie Apr 2013 #6

Yep - he included it as an inoculation. cliffordu Apr 2013 #9

Without a fucking doubt madokie Apr 2013 #14

Claiming it is an innoculation is like an arsonist claiming he is preventing future fires. Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #33

And he's on record with the false belief that SS contributes to the deficit. That's what burns Nay Apr 2013 #67

+1, Yep-- this excuse-making has become a bad joke. Marr Apr 2013 #74

Well.. Your post is both educational and enlightening. cliffordu Apr 2013 #133

What you said cliffordu Apr 2013 #16

I was told by his supporters that he included it to show the public how awful Republicans are. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #20

sorry madokie Apr 2013 #23

Sounds like you've been Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #30

I saw what you did there.... cliffordu Apr 2013 #39

I think so too, considering who told me why this president put this awful proposal in the budget. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #78

No one is lying to you, Sabrina Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #95

Republicans did ask him to sacrifice SS, no one is calling that a lie. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #102

Do you understand how negotiation towards compromise works? Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #104

I understand it very well. You give a LITTLE and they give a LOT if you are a good negotiator and sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #105

In other words Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #106

SS had nothing to do with the Deficit. Any Democrat who perpetuates that Republican lie sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #113

"SS had nothing to do with the Deficit." Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #115

You know, it's one thing when you just spout nonsense... Marr Apr 2013 #141

Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #144

You can disagree all you like, but you're just wrong. Marr Apr 2013 #146

I have redefined nothing. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #147

If it's never going to happen then why offer it? magellan Apr 2013 #7

He made sure it won't be happening madokie Apr 2013 #15

Does the budget not have to be passed by the Senate? magellan Apr 2013 #24

You can lead a horse to water madokie Apr 2013 #25

Ditto with your horse and water magellan Apr 2013 #28

But most Americans Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #118

Sure they are magellan Apr 2013 #124

The fact that you Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #125

I find it amusing magellan Apr 2013 #127

Recognizing the behavior of children Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #129

And more name-calling magellan Apr 2013 #130

That's the point. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #134

And they're still here magellan Apr 2013 #135

As I said at the outset Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #136

Not willing to share examples of your previous mother-henning, then? magellan Apr 2013 #137

Calling a child a 'child' Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #138

It would seem that the vast majority of DUers you accuse of being "children" magellan Apr 2013 #140

Haha! Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #142

For someone who's not too concerned with what goes on here magellan Apr 2013 #149

Truth be told Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #151

Then you're getting what you want magellan Apr 2013 #153

Ain't whining Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #160

Perhpas putting aside the 'poker' analogy and read some on negotiations Sheepshank Apr 2013 #75

Sure magellan Apr 2013 #77

but Dem Presidents have touched and proposed changes in the past Sheepshank Apr 2013 #87

If you're talking about the negotiations between Clinton and Gingrich magellan Apr 2013 #99

The statement that Dem Presidents have not touched SS is an outright lie Sheepshank Apr 2013 #121

And it isn't something I personally said magellan Apr 2013 #123

As was your initial response, not acknoweldging what I said, but changing the subject. Sheepshank Apr 2013 #156

Again, I never stated that no Dem president had touched SS before magellan Apr 2013 #158

This isn't happening in a vacuum. Marr Apr 2013 #143

Then why not propose a 94% tax on the hoading class instead? grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #12

no it's not going to happend - because even suggesting it causes an uproar. Imagine what the powers Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #19

They won't... TreasonousBastard Apr 2013 #22

You're lying because you are crying. Hair on fire would seem to be a requirement to set the scene. TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #26

All it takes for it to "happen"...is for good men to do nothing stanchaz Apr 2013 #27

If I had a buck Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #31

Well.... cliffordu Apr 2013 #41

I agree daybranch Apr 2013 #32

"Yearly Handout"? JHB Apr 2013 #34

Yeah the fucking COLA cliffordu Apr 2013 #76

Says a lot about where he stands, doesn't it? bananas Apr 2013 #116

I thought the same thing about Freedom of Speech and the Right to Free assembly. dtom67 Apr 2013 #35

What? pipi_k Apr 2013 #49

That's either a lame attempt at sarcasm or an admission of life under a rock Occulus Apr 2013 #100

+1000 n/t truebluegreen Apr 2013 #110

What part of... sendero Apr 2013 #36

are you being deliberately obtuse? cali Apr 2013 #37

I see it the same way you and madokie do... liberalla Apr 2013 #38

Cliff says 'if your friend is bluffing in poker and you know it, tell everyone in the room' Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #44

oh yeah, it's great to have democrats filibustering a democratic presidents bill. boston bean Apr 2013 #40

Don't you think the Dems in Congress ever talk to the Prez? cliffordu Apr 2013 #42

It. Already. Fucking. Happened. WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #46

Well said Will. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #47

Thank you! WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #50

I don't know about you, but I liked it when boston bean Apr 2013 #48

Leave it to a new dad to see the big picture... VOX Apr 2013 #59

you act as if Democrats are defenseless to block this in the legislature bigtree Apr 2013 #61

You're missing the point. WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #63

I can't disagree that it just sucks to have to push off of your own party's president bigtree Apr 2013 #69

Bravo bigtree. Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #108

Damage control time marions ghost Apr 2013 #66

Yeah, well said. I'm stunned by the people on DU who cannot see that the offer itself is Nay Apr 2013 #68

Here's a hint: they see it VERY WELL. Occulus Apr 2013 #88

True--I can generally suss out the trolls, but sometimes I read somebody who's been here Nay Apr 2013 #90

"You live in a world where a Democratic President put Social Security on the table during a deficit Number23 Apr 2013 #128

WHAT happened, Will? jazzimov Apr 2013 #159

"Jerkin the gherkin" riqster Apr 2013 #51

I Will Happily Exchange fredamae Apr 2013 #52

It's already happened. Democrats want to take away your social security. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #53

"Democrats want to take away Social Security" Larrylarry Apr 2013 #56

We'll see who is "panicking" come the 2014 midterms, 99Forever Apr 2013 #54

I dunno what you mean cliffordu Apr 2013 #58

We'll see about that. n/t 99Forever Apr 2013 #60

"He's about to deliver another lesson." Lol - Really! demwing Apr 2013 #55

+1 Exactly. nt snappyturtle Apr 2013 #62

Indeed. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #139

My friends jumped all over me for yelling fire in a crowded elevator.... kentuck Apr 2013 #57

Are all your friends blind? randome Apr 2013 #64

Appears to be the case... kentuck Apr 2013 #72

It's playing Russian Roulette... TDale313 Apr 2013 #70

This is like releasing an attempted purse snatcher, because the police caught him. Marr Apr 2013 #71

and when it doesn't happen (which it never was going to), the disgruntled PUMAS and greens on DU dionysus Apr 2013 #91

Oh, REALLY! Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #152

Good luck convincing the Obama-Hater Club of anything, particularly anything that appears.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #93

We know it is not going to happen. But he just killed our chances in the mid-terms. ieoeja Apr 2013 #97

Defeatist, much?? cliffordu Apr 2013 #98

Obama is playing 3 dinensional chess with checker players. Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #109

Oh, I think he's playing a kind of 3 dimensional chess. Marr Apr 2013 #145

You completely miss the point bowens43 Apr 2013 #101

Of course. DevonRex Apr 2013 #103

Let Obama play 7th level chess on his own dime, not mine. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #112

If it's never going to happen, then why not offer a tax rate of 40% or higher on the neverforget Apr 2013 #114

Precisely. I'd like to know the answer to that question too. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #117

I don't think I am going to get an answer on this one neverforget Apr 2013 #120

Kick and Rec, Clifford Hekate Apr 2013 #119

I agree. Sacred cows and ideological purity are for teabaggers bhikkhu Apr 2013 #122

If it's not going to happen, then why propose it? Laelth Apr 2013 #126

Gosh. I'm SO relieved! truebluegreen Apr 2013 #131

I dunno, do ya?? cliffordu Apr 2013 #132

Well, I guess I did, for you. nt truebluegreen Apr 2013 #157

Never say never. obxhead Apr 2013 #154

Lol, so basically you believe the chess shit! n-t Logical Apr 2013 #155