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In reply to the discussion: Amina a Tunisian Woman Protested about Anti-Women policies and Anti-Women acts in Tunisia. [View all]
BainsBane
(57,757 posts)184. I don't find it suprising
all kinds of people have radio shows.
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Amina a Tunisian Woman Protested about Anti-Women policies and Anti-Women acts in Tunisia. [View all]
stevenleser
Apr 2013
OP
while i am completely against people justifying their islamophobia by using women and gays
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2013
#5
I really think it is hostility about the showing of boobs. I think all else is a smokescreen.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#6
i think part of it is also that no one wants to admit oppression in their own culture
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2013
#8
I don't think that is what is going on here on DU. I think most of us are aware of global issues of
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#15
You are wilfully misrepresenting the arguments of those opposed to FEMEN.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#11
There is nothing to represent. At best, you advocate a form of belief segregation. That's at best.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#12
More willful misrepresentation. Directing away from our argument to boobs.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#19
As I said, your stated argument itself is a form of ethnocentrism. If you are happy to stand on that
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#21
Oh, I know what that word means. Do you? You keep saying only people of certain ethnic backgrounds
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#71
Ethnicity is the spurious connection. What I'm really talking about are power relationships.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#76
What you're really doing is making it up as you go along, to attack Femen. And hide the fact that
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#79
So it's not about ethnicity, it's about power. Oh yeah and because they're white, and not muslim.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#91
The don't speak FOR, they speak in SUPPORT OF. Please show some evidence that FEMEN
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#119
Please explain what in that picture suggest to you FEMEN speaks FOR Muslim women.
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#135
*sigh* If it's not self apparent to you, you're either not ready to see...
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#136
Thank you. I am really curious what is it they see in that picture that makes them believe
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#141
What is self apparent to me, is definitely not self apparent to you. What in that picture
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#140
Women have been going to Tunisia and showing off their Boobs for years and were never stoned
JI7
Apr 2013
#42
Not completely correct. Femen is anti-religion. And they are anti-religion because they believe that
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#31
I do not think the are Islamophobic. They definitely support full separation of chirch and state,
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#126
Or are they Islamist-phobic? Or do they reject specific notions of mainstream Islam?
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#142
I don't equate a book with people, obviously you do. The book IS racist, sexist and homophobic.
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#162
"Many don't see veiling as a form of oppression, particularly since it isn't required in Tunisia."
cliffordu
Apr 2013
#100
That's is how it's done! **APPLAUSE** I think it takes more than 15 minutes of fame, you know...
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#167
oh, I missed that. I am trying not to be dismissive or snarky about what they are doing, but....
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#166
thanks, I was disheartened to read they bailed on Russia instead of accomplishing anything.
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#169
Amina has herself stated that she was not kidnapped nor thrown in a psych ward.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#9
And she said that while in the country where some political groups are threatening to stone her to
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#16
I think that is a culturally and colonially biased statement against erasures. nt
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#18
Really. Did you mention them? You who told me that Muslim feminists are like Log Cabin Republicans..
Luminous Animal
Apr 2013
#45
And just like Log Cabin Republicans, they exist in surprising numbers. And? nt
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#47
do Catholics support Child Molestation ? should they leave the church to prove they don't ?
JI7
Apr 2013
#58
Wrong question. The question to ask is, if Opus Dei promoted molesting children and the state
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#64
why do you not give the same consideration to Muslims rather than thinking they are all like the
JI7
Apr 2013
#66
Are all Catholics "Opus Dei"? When you have figured out the answer to that, you will understand why
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#68
i always got it , i know TUnisia unlike the idiot screaming about stoning to death there
JI7
Apr 2013
#80
Why don't you admit up until like maybe yesterday you believed that there
Luminous Animal
Apr 2013
#99
Why dont you admit you mischaracterized my statement. In fact you make two contradictory accusations
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#101
I'm happy to let DUers read my previous statement and make up their own minds. nt
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#108
women have been protesting outside for years there and been threatened with stoning, death etc
JI7
Apr 2013
#40
"Some political groups" = a regional leader of one group who reportedly said she 'should' be stoned,
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#131
shit, the same can be said about Obama and all the other Democrats , Catholics make up
JI7
Apr 2013
#54
And if a woman says she is not offended by a dongle joke or door being held open
The Straight Story
Apr 2013
#44
Eh eh. The door again. I hope you are in real life milking that canard for all it is worth...
Luminous Animal
Apr 2013
#82
Benevolent sexism has nothing to do with any individual woman's preference.
Luminous Animal
Apr 2013
#97
Seems to me like extremely convoluted concept. It makes an assumption that "benevolent"
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#127
I think you are confusing "individualism" with feminism. Really common mistake.
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#179
Individualism is about the personal choices you get to make. Feminism concerns itself with societal
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#210
when you prattle on about your individual relationships with men, it's individualism...
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#228
Here we go again. Can you actually hold a conversation without dictating what someone else should
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#231
not sure why you would presume to know what anyone here does in their spare time
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#232
25 years of activism most definitely qualifies you to lead by personal example! FEMEN needs you to
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#233
you might like to use DU to talk all about yourself and make up stories about others in an
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#234
It's not correct. As with most of my detractors on the Femen issue, that person mischaracterizes nt
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#51
Amina flat out states she was not thrown into a psych ward. Address that.
Luminous Animal
Apr 2013
#22
No, it didn't. I got your intended meaning. But applying what you claim is your belief system, you
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#33
You just described an undersea craft with a magnetohydrodynamic drive. And here I thought I was
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#43
Barking up the wrong tree with your wiki searching. My username is there for a reason.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#53
I thought your username was just more Wharrgarbl like your attacks on Femen nt
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#61
Femen is like that Quron Burning Guy in the United States , of course they have a right to protest
JI7
Apr 2013
#48
I wasn't specifically referring to Tunisia. I'm well aware Sharia isnt law in Tunisia YET.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#105
I'll say it again since Femen detractors seem to love to mischaracterize and misquote.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#111
Quote: "The argument was that the experts talk too much and do too little." That's not what you said
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#156
YOU made a dishonest statement, YOU provided me with a proof of your dishonesty and its my fault?
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#161
This wouldn't be the first time this poster makes dishonest statements. Its kind of amusing really.
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#168
ROFTLOL, THAT is absolutely hillarious. She definitely should get a point for "creativity".
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#173
Accoding to the evidence YOU provided they did not say what you claim they did.
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#165
Out of your entire post only 2 sentences are correct. Rest of it is dishonest bullshit. See below.
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#197
noticed that, have you? i did too. the same few people show up all over europe. i wonder where
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#133
In fairness, Muslim women openly supporting Femen would probably be placing themselves in danger,
Zorra
Apr 2013
#149
Another totally dishonest personal attack post, ignoring the content of my post. Tsk tsk ~
Zorra
Apr 2013
#172
Aliaa Magda Elmahdy would defintely disagree with you. I am sure you know who I am talking about.
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#180
It is very apparent that you simply wish to believe that we lowly DUers can't be bothered
Zorra
Apr 2013
#230
"thrown into the psych ward" = lie. "threats by various political factions in her country to have
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#128
femen is being touted by a lot of middle east hawks; they cheered on the pnac coups too.
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#134
I mean the hawks on this board. Many of the same people taking the hard line on Iran and
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#215
He slam dunks the easy arguments. Yet cannot appreciate more complex...
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#206
REALLY? Interesting. Why do so many sources indicate that these statements are, apparently, TRUE?
Zorra
Apr 2013
#148
because they all have the same source for that factoid: femen's Inna Shevchenko.
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#152
no. The internationally-known female Tunisian civil rights lawyer who represents amina didn't
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#216
'appears to be true'. can you cite someone besides femen on that? Bouchra Hamida is an inter-
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#217
What I was saying is that what you posted about her not being in the psych ward appears to be true.
Zorra
Apr 2013
#220
I heard two different stories attributed to her about their "kidnapping" too
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#171