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cleanhippie

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204. Great post, but you left off one thing from your list...Gods.

Sat Apr 13, 2013, 12:03 PM

Apr 2013

Just as imaginary and lacking tangible truth as unicorns, dragons, Hobbits, fairies or the Easter Bunny.

Surely you agree?

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Rachel Mocks UFO Citizen Hearing [View all] ZX86 Apr 2013 OP

People who have taken this topic seriously are no longer on the air... fadedrose Apr 2013 #1

Forgot to mention - the enormous interest she has generated in the topic....nt fadedrose Apr 2013 #2

I saw Ratigan interview Leslie Kean. ZX86 Apr 2013 #8

It all gets very very weird. Someone someplace knows a hell of a lot more about all of RKP5637 Apr 2013 #9

Maybe presidents are out of the loop and really don't know Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #60

No, the Presidents are privy to this knowledge Mnpaul Apr 2013 #73

Crop circles as well... Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #89

I said advanced not perfect Mnpaul Apr 2013 #94

Sci-Fi movies would tell me they are "not" so advanced to avoid crashing Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #100

Carl Sagan on crop circles Brainstormy Apr 2013 #134

Not as simple as that... truth2power Apr 2013 #297

No alien life was found on a meteorite Peregrine Apr 2013 #281

Didn't know it was debunked Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #286

Maybe not. Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #109

Aliens can travel the galaxy but can't overcome govt. secrecy jberryhill Apr 2013 #131

zing!! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #137

Ah yes, like that famous scene nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #226

I think there is, in fact, there has to be IMO. No responsible nation is going to let RKP5637 Apr 2013 #150

"you don't know the half of it" Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #289

Miles O'Brien left CNN because CNN dumped the entire science and technology unit unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #63

i thought he left.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #138

I have seen a UFO twice in my life AverageMe Apr 2013 #70

By the way, this was more then 40 years ago and I still remember it AverageMe Apr 2013 #77

I too have seen some strange stuff Mnpaul Apr 2013 #80

All things are really possible in a world of infinite permutations and combinations ... it is RKP5637 Apr 2013 #153

I'd like to think that they are. When I'm even older I will remember that snappyturtle Apr 2013 #335

~100 years ago, many people thought they were doing well if they had indoor RKP5637 Apr 2013 #345

You're so right. My brain is forever imprinted. Others really can't snappyturtle Apr 2013 #334

30 for me....1983! I look at it as a little unexpected gift! nt snappyturtle Apr 2013 #333

Me too. The late evening, 10:30 or so with my five year old daughter in snappyturtle Apr 2013 #82

I saw a UFO once NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #361

There might be another reason the History Channel mixes UFO stuff in with ghosts, vampires auras,.. Captain Stern Apr 2013 #108

no shanti Apr 2013 #205

Pandering to the lowest common denominator and the ignorant masses for profit? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #216

Dylan Ratifan wasn't disappeared Shivering Jemmy Apr 2013 #133

Yep, and I strongly agree with you. The universe is a vast and RKP5637 Apr 2013 #3

I think you're the only sane voice in this conversation. nt snappyturtle Apr 2013 #339

Thanks! Part of my education was/is in the sciences ... and the more I learned the RKP5637 Apr 2013 #348

I think many forget UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object magellan Apr 2013 #4

Exactly. If it can't be identified it's obviously a bug-eyed extraterrestrial! Owl Apr 2013 #321

THANK you! nt snappyturtle Apr 2013 #336

quite right NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #365

Bingo! hatrack Apr 2013 #428

There's more evidence that UFOs exist than there is that God does but she'd NEVER mock forestpath Apr 2013 #5

And, there's always the chance God = UFO! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #11

.. Flying Spaghetti Monster cvoogt Apr 2013 #17

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Could well be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 Apr 2013 #24

There ya go!!!! forestpath Apr 2013 #223

No, there's marginally more evidence for God. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #122

Marginally more evidence for God? Gore1FL Apr 2013 #152

+1, n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #154

What I just said, in the post you're replying to... Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #155

I don't know the statistics of your claim, but it doesn't matter. Gore1FL Apr 2013 #162

Sorry, but a person having an experience they do not understand does not equate to evidence for god. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #195

Yes, it does. Not strong evidence, but evidence. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #201

Evidence. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #207

And someone who says that they had an experience which they did understand? Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #208

Stop it. You're projecting your insecurities onto me. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #212

How much do you know about Bayesian statistics? Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #343

Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy, not evidence. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #350

True, but irrelevant, since that's not what I'm doing. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #375

People saying " I have experienced X" is not evidence for "X", it's evidence of an experience. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #390

Depends on the context doesn't it? ZX86 Apr 2013 #392

This isnt a U.S. Court, this is reality. And in reality, empirical evidence is the only evidence cleanhippie Apr 2013 #393

U.S. courts are not reality? ZX86 Apr 2013 #395

My point is that this is not a court of law. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #397

How is it a red herring? ZX86 Apr 2013 #398

Since you brought up context, did you read this sub-thread to get the context? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #400

I get the context. ZX86 Apr 2013 #403

Not worlds apart at all. The empirical evidence for either premise is non-existent. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #405

You are mistaken. ZX86 Apr 2013 #410

I am not mistaken. Currently, there is no empirical evidence to support the existence cleanhippie Apr 2013 #416

I think we might agree. ZX86 Apr 2013 #417

So what was your point of posting the OP then? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #418

Deserve ridicule? Seriously? ZX86 Apr 2013 #419

The IDEA is deserving of ridicule. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #422

So you would ridicule a war veteran for his beliefs? ZX86 Apr 2013 #423

I would consider a war vet who makes those claims to be dealing with bigger issues cleanhippie Apr 2013 #424

You clearly stated that that "People" ZX86 Apr 2013 #426

Are they claiming the UFO they sighted was ALIENS? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #429

Not true. At least according to the participants of the COMETA Report. ZX86 Apr 2013 #430

They are entitled to their opinion, no matter how ridiculous it is. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #431

They are also entitled to be ridiculed or mocked zappaman Apr 2013 #433

Pretty much. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #435

Opinions from people with serious credientials. ZX86 Apr 2013 #436

Again, who a person is or what their credentials are mean squat. If there is no empirical evidence cleanhippie Apr 2013 #438

I totally agree with his theories about the brain. My theory and those of others is that the brain WCLinolVir Apr 2013 #408

ROFL snooper2 Apr 2013 #324

Rachel only mocks ONE group. And I find her double standard hypocritical and forestpath Apr 2013 #222

Two matters: snappyturtle Apr 2013 #338

With the vastness of space and the difficulty of interstellar travel... onehandle Apr 2013 #6

"but they have never been here." ... but how do you know that for sure? n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #14

Sci-fi movies show regular people 'rocketing' around. onehandle Apr 2013 #22

Yep, quite true ... conventional travel is absurd. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #27

Sorry, but you don't get to pull the fallacy of "argumentum ad ignorantiam..." Moonwalk Apr 2013 #42

... we'll never know. ... we'll be long gone. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #52

You're assuming traveling at the speed of light. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #200

complete woo. pseudoscientific quantum woo. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #224

Yes, that is our understanding of it. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #230

Granted. But if we accept that, then why are these amazing beings so sloppy? Moonwalk Apr 2013 #274

It could be the graduate class from Gliesse 589 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #275

The grad class from Gilesse 581 actually makes sense--we're the final frat boy ritual... Moonwalk Apr 2013 #319

Enter the lowest number outside of zero and solve it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #320

What is the "lowest number outside of zero"? n/t LTX Apr 2013 #344

I have entered very low variables nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #349

Why would the lowest number not be one? (a stupid question, I'm sure . . .) n/t LTX Apr 2013 #396

The lower number of civilizations nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #399

Oh. Of course. LTX Apr 2013 #401

I hope you're not a Christian. If you are, you have a lot of 'splainin'" to do. nt snappyturtle Apr 2013 #341

Then Rachel should have some scientists come on her show and say that. ZX86 Apr 2013 #19

How do you know? Mnpaul Apr 2013 #79

you wanna know why nobody takes the tinfoil hat crowd seriously? Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #98

Tin foil hat? Mnpaul Apr 2013 #102

+1, n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #157

He does nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #197

ANYTHING is possible, little is plausible. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #198

Ever heard of the quantum level? The science is growing. Very rude post.nt Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #106

What is really interesting is the work being done by David LaPoint Mnpaul Apr 2013 #111

no what is rude is expecting me or anyone else.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #142

My goodness - He's really a maroon! GoneOffShore Apr 2013 #192

You have a lot of hubris Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #206

what does that arblegarble even mean? Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #215

Woo or not ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #219

let's not make this about me plz. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #220

Yes, I did mean anthropocentric. Excuse me, I'm on muscle relaxers, and had a "moment." Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #221

you are still trying to make this about me to deflect from the fact.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #225

You made this about you. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #227

no you made this about me. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #229

I don't agree. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #232

I will repeat this, if you were alive at the time of Galileo nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #237

I love Michio Kaku Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #241

Yes he is. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #243

Yes, they kept and keep open minds, and certainly don't act like our resident know-it-all. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #245

As a science fiction writer I have to keep my mind open as well nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #247

This message was self-deleted by its author Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #242

No, I will not kindly fuck off nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #244

i have *hubris*! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #234

I'm happy for you. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #236

jeesh, what a ridiculous smear NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #362

Exactly. krispos42 Apr 2013 #143

yeh but you're being *rude* Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #144

Well, the universe is a pretty big place krispos42 Apr 2013 #146

space is always easy to travel through.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #149

Not so. ... spin Apr 2013 #250

yes i posted a link to similar info downthread.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #251

To us, yes. To the travelers at 1 g constant acceleration not so much. ... spin Apr 2013 #300

"our planet would have been colonized millions of years ago." Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #306

and there are many who say it was NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #367

I seen the theories that earth is a life seeding project... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #374

lots of people think they ARE here NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #363

Aliens are not visiting earth. No proof at all. Pilots do not matter. Neither do police. Rachel..... Logical Apr 2013 #7

Mocking is not journalism. ZX86 Apr 2013 #12

Rachel is not a traditional journalist. Most commentary. Mocking pseudo science falls in that area. Logical Apr 2013 #18

If someone was selling bogus cancer treatments ZX86 Apr 2013 #25

Cancer treatments are real. There is proof. Aliens visiting earth is not. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #26

Bogus cancer treatments are not real. ZX86 Apr 2013 #36

They are mistaken. Like PHDs in Geology who claim the earth is 6000 years old. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #38

Then why are they mistaken? ZX86 Apr 2013 #41

I do to a doctor who believes in god. Same difference. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #44

Does your doctor see God during the performance of his duties? ZX86 Apr 2013 #48

We do fly in planes piloted by people who make mistakes. Luckily, there are instruments... Moonwalk Apr 2013 #45

Reporting a UFO is not a simple mistake. ZX86 Apr 2013 #57

Yes it is. Especially if the pilot isn't sober...this may make you never want to fly again-- Moonwalk Apr 2013 #265

Unsupported blanket statement? ZX86 Apr 2013 #389

They are not reporting "alien" visitation they are reporting unidentified objects. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #86

Then if they AREN'T actually space aliens the pilots claiming to have seen "something weird" Occulus Apr 2013 #43

Is your argument that no pilot has ever claimed to see a UFO that was later explained? n-t Logical Apr 2013 #46

No, my claim is that all the craft that seem to be UFOs were later explained by advanced craft Occulus Apr 2013 #56

She should mock this bullshit alarimer Apr 2013 #145

Ever been ghost hunting yourself? (nt) The Straight Story Apr 2013 #28

No, not looked for vampires either. Or unicorns. Or Santa Claus. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #33

So you can't really speak about it then The Straight Story Apr 2013 #61

It's okay to be open-minded Apophis Apr 2013 #68

Every pseudo science as a person like you with a personal experience.... Logical Apr 2013 #88

+1 ... quite true, it's difficult to be an observer when one has, is in, the same RKP5637 Apr 2013 #156

If your intution tells you that what you've seen but cannot explain is ghosts, gods, or aliens... cleanhippie Apr 2013 #199

I haven't read anywhere on this site of anyone claiming/admitting what they saw was the snappyturtle Apr 2013 #337

Nope. ZX86 Apr 2013 #37

U.S Government has taken the UFO phenomenon very seriously in the past. ZX86 Apr 2013 #47

So do the astronauts count? They have seen things also. My ex-fil was a police detective and tracked Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #107

I find it odd that now, when cameras are everywhere and people carry phone everywhere that.... Logical Apr 2013 #140

nope. the astronauts don't count either. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #158

Well, of course you're wrong. Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #110

Really, no pilot has reported a UFO that was easily explained. Even many UFO "experts" admit most... Logical Apr 2013 #379

Of course you know nothing. Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #381

LOL, then anything might be true! Unicorns! Send me definite proof of ANY..... Logical Apr 2013 #382

No need. Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #383

You have none, I get it! n-t Logical Apr 2013 #387

"Pilots do not matter"? WTF? NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #364

Are you serious? Want a list of pilots who reported UFOs that turned out to be easily explained??? Logical Apr 2013 #378

yes, I am serious NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #441

We are evidence of aliens - the notion that we are alone in the universe seems almost like religious aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2013 #434

Why would Rachel Maddow even bother mentioning it? Quantess Apr 2013 #10

Maybe because of the recent WikiLeaks releases. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #105

Actually this post will be moved per DU rules MattBaggins Apr 2013 #13

It's not a UFO topic. ZX86 Apr 2013 #15

It's a UFO post MattBaggins Apr 2013 #16

It's about a news person making fun nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #23

Wrong. Read it closer. This is not about UFOs. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #20

There is something to the subject nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #21

Exactly! ... "we would see panic." n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #30

I think it is nation dependent. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #35

I saw one. Everyone can mock it if they will but I know what I saw one snappyturtle Apr 2013 #59

too many have seen the chupacabra too.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #147

Yep, you caught me....I made it up! snappyturtle Apr 2013 #167

97% of sightings can be explained, world wide nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #182

i never said we were alone in the universe.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #184

Right now we could nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #186

i have read on it.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #188

Physicists believe warp drives are possible nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #191

With our current tech level nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #269

I have had two UFO sightings in my lifetime... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #255

I had one in Mexico that may or may not qualify nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #258

Seen what? Seeing something you cannot explain does not equate to aliens. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #203

I saw an unidentified flying object 60 miles NW of Chicago. snappyturtle Apr 2013 #252

Could it have been something made on earth? immoderate Apr 2013 #293

I have no idea if it could be from Earth or not. All I know is that snappyturtle Apr 2013 #332

Neat story. Are aliens the best and most plausible explanation? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #315

I'm not suggesting anything. I have no idea what it was. The lights were SO snappyturtle Apr 2013 #331

I am sure that 2naSalit Apr 2013 #358

That lame excuse has been around for decades. Archae Apr 2013 #40

Yep, quite true ... as technology marches forward RKP5637 Apr 2013 #50

Yes, it is lacking. Archae Apr 2013 #81

Would you put religion in the same category? ... I do. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #151

Great post, but you left off one thing from your list...Gods. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #204

Panic? longship Apr 2013 #128

The science community, nope, nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #180

In about 1981, I was driving along defacto7 Apr 2013 #29

Well, you did see an UFO nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #31

If commercial and military pilots are reporting seeing UFO's ZX86 Apr 2013 #32

but.. but.. aren't you being *rude*..? Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #159

I pray to the Lords that there is 'intelligent life' out there because it sure as hell can't be Purveyor Apr 2013 #34

And of course I HAD to do this.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #74

That was great...thank you for posting. Purveyor Apr 2013 #99

I think he's made up to look like the "geocentric guy" up thread. immoderate Apr 2013 #294

I love that song! 2naSalit Apr 2013 #376

So,....can we have your liver? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #380

Only after I'm done with it. 2naSalit Apr 2013 #388

ITA. I didn't see it -- I don't usually watch her show -- but it sounds beneath her to do that. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #39

oh, FFS... zappaman Apr 2013 #49

but of course, there can't be any other intelligence in the whole universe besides Rachel's. Whisp Apr 2013 #51

Not everything is a real issue. Deep13 Apr 2013 #53

I've seen plenty of programs analyze why people believe ZX86 Apr 2013 #58

TV shows? nt Deep13 Apr 2013 #67

Yes. TV Shows. ZX86 Apr 2013 #85

Non-issue, maybe but real none the less....possible. Please enlighten snappyturtle Apr 2013 #62

The concept that the Earth is a destination for space aliens generally... Deep13 Apr 2013 #65

Sorry but that's thin at best. So-o it was debunked because of projection of snappyturtle Apr 2013 #76

big enough to include alien life forms you mean.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #161

???? What did you eat for breakfast? Vitriol? snappyturtle Apr 2013 #169

let's not make this about me plz.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #171

With our current technology base you mean nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #185

And if that technology is thousands, if not millions of years ahead of ours... theHandpuppet Apr 2013 #384

Alas we are already doing that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #386

Every issue is open to corruption.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #104

very true. nt Deep13 Apr 2013 #117

I didn't see it Gore1FL Apr 2013 #54

Since when does yellow journalism Riftaxe Apr 2013 #114

I rank Rachel above Fox when it comes to professionalism Gore1FL Apr 2013 #148

I think someone up thread expressed it best: Mocking is not journalism. gateley Apr 2013 #55

I don't think it's about beliefs. ZX86 Apr 2013 #69

Maybe she is mocking it because Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #78

I think a lot of them are military top secret, but I can't say for sure that all of them are -- gateley Apr 2013 #84

i don't mock believers either just for believing, but.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #170

Maybe they just want their questions answered and their concerns addressed. gateley Apr 2013 #253

but there's no reasoning with true believers. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #254

That may very well be, but that's not a justification for mocking them. gateley Apr 2013 #296

My understanding is the hearing is not simply sci fi, living at home, fanboys "demanding truth" ZX86 Apr 2013 #257

They're right about only one thing. They are unidentified. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #64

Whether we're alone in the galaxy or not is not the issue. ZX86 Apr 2013 #72

I thought the issue was the way the topic was covered by a supposedly open minded Liberal. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #75

Being an open minded liberal has nothing to do with it. ZX86 Apr 2013 #91

It's part of a journalistic formula.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #95

yes and corporate and military engineers and officers.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #173

Corporate cover up? Apophis Apr 2013 #66

Seems to be three camps on UFOs... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #71

you forgot the ufo group of the forth kind... Javaman Apr 2013 #83

Met one of those. They were hostile about most everything. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #87

Yup, that's me... Javaman Apr 2013 #217

Funny you would use this... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #218

Yes, blame the icon. Javaman Apr 2013 #347

I've seen ufos. Apophis Apr 2013 #90

Expected a cat picture with that post. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #92

I hate cat pictures. Apophis Apr 2013 #93

With the Eye of Ra??? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #96

It's the eye of Horus, actually. Apophis Apr 2013 #97

Great,....my fiance hates cats as much as her bird does. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #101

so what did you see? NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #369

Something beyond our physics... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #373

hello from camp 3.5 roscoeroscoe Apr 2013 #439

What I find funny is people who speak with certainty that it's all fake. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #440

Recommendable. Jack Sprat Apr 2013 #103

Almost all science was at one time considered pseudoscience Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #112

It was only a few years ago ZX86 Apr 2013 #113

Exactly. Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #116

Yes, but a lot of pseudoscience is still just pseudoscience. randome Apr 2013 #132

Yep, well said, I do the same. To me, it is quite foolish for one to assume they know everything RKP5637 Apr 2013 #163

No one is suggesting they know everything about the universe Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #168

Yep, agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #174

Fine. ZX86 Apr 2013 #259

Because her show is about politics not astronomy Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #261

Rachel has scientists on her show all the time explaining ZX86 Apr 2013 #264

Climate change and pollution are real issues Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #267

In context they are related. ZX86 Apr 2013 #276

One is worthy of serious discussion Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #278

When the U.S. Airforce convenes a committee to study ZX86 Apr 2013 #283

Climate science is real science, there is no such thing as UFO science Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #284

If there is no such thing as UFO science? ZX86 Apr 2013 #288

Point me to a peer reviewed study on UFOs Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #290

COMETA Report ZX86 Apr 2013 #295

I searched for the COMETA report and it is clear it was not peer reviewed Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #298

Who claimed the COMETA Report was peer reviewed? ZX86 Apr 2013 #301

The former Congress members who are participating in the fake hearing are being paid $20,000 each Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #302

I fail to see the relevance. ZX86 Apr 2013 #307

Ask any legal expert and they will tell you eye witnesses are very unreliable Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #309

Again what is the relevance? ZX86 Apr 2013 #312

Eyewitnesses who say they saw an alien spaceship in court... Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #314

Michio Kaku and Neil DeGrassee Tyson nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #270

how very open-minded of you NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #360

I am open minded to ideas with evidence to back them up Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #366

well, this is complicated NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #370

Yes it is more complicated than people want to admit, but it is humans complicating it not aliens Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #371

Absoultely no evidence? ZX86 Apr 2013 #372

But this is not science, scientists are not claiming we are being visited by aliens Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #166

why are you being so hostile? :sarcasm: Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #175

You're missing the point. ZX86 Apr 2013 #262

Radical debunkers? Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #263

Again, not the issue. ZX86 Apr 2013 #266

Who cares whether or not they see them? Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #271

And 97% are easily explained nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #273

Who cares? Who cares? ZX86 Apr 2013 #280

Has there ever been a case of a commercial airliner colliding with a UFO? Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #282

You're not making sense. ZX86 Apr 2013 #285

I don't feel a pilot's personal beliefs are relevant to his safe handling of a plane Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #287

Call mecrazy but..... ZX86 Apr 2013 #291

So tell me, how does a pilot identify a classified military aircraft? Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #292

Pilots should report any and all unusual occurances they experience on duty. ZX86 Apr 2013 #299

Should they also fake a Congressional hearing if they see something? Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #303

What's your point? ZX86 Apr 2013 #308

They don't have credibility, that is the point. Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #310

Based on what? ZX86 Apr 2013 #313

I am basing it on the fact that they claim to have seen something that is scientifically impossible Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #316

That's a fair opinion. I can accept. ZX86 Apr 2013 #317

That's just straight up untrue... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #235

UFOs per se are one thing... pauliedangerously Apr 2013 #115

People who believe in woo-woo deserve to be mocked Hugabear Apr 2013 #118

Do people who believe in angels also "deserve to be mocked"? Quantess Apr 2013 #119

Yes. alphafemale Apr 2013 #121

Funny. "woo-woo" spontaneously flew out of my mouth when I read the thread title. alphafemale Apr 2013 #120

Maybe because the one thing America is not short of is huckstrers. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #124

i am asking myself that same question right now. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #176

BTW folks,...here's the episode... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #123

UFO loons should be mocked... SidDithers Apr 2013 #125

Rachel lost me after the 1st debate.No longer care what she says.I Just watch Rev. Al Sharpton. graham4anything Apr 2013 #126

Al Sharpton is definitely one of the 'good people' in life IMO! RKP5637 Apr 2013 #165

if the universe if infinitely large then there must be an infinite number of planets which do piratefish08 Apr 2013 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Apr 2013 #129

no it's not 'plain ignorant'. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #178

What are your credentials? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #187

i do call it an appeal to authority.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #189

3% are not explained. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #193

Unexplained does NOT equate to aliens! n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #238

I did not make that equation either nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #240

That doesn't mean that ETs are visiting us Hugabear Apr 2013 #181

What if we ignore we are being screwed? get the red out Apr 2013 #130

Years ago, when the SR71 (then as the YF12) was being evaluated/tested, there bike man Apr 2013 #135

Rachel makes a living by mocking JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2013 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author Turborama Apr 2013 #139

You cannot be serious. alarimer Apr 2013 #141

There was an interesting point in, I think, Close Encounters jberryhill Apr 2013 #164

Actually 3% of sightings are not explained nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #202

I don't "believe" in UFOs. But I do know that I saw one. Berlum Apr 2013 #160

not GroupThink.. CriticalThink. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #179

Medicus cura teipsum Berlum Apr 2013 #190

It's not Phil that needs to take that advice. n/t GoneOffShore Apr 2013 #194

what did you see exactly? NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #368

I had an uncle who was a colonel in the AF during the early part of the cold war Victor_c3 Apr 2013 #172

Regarding this thread, the term "hot mess" comes to mind. Iggo Apr 2013 #177

I believe in UFOs and I don't mind that she is mocking believers Marrah_G Apr 2013 #183

As well she should. Silly notions deserve mockery. GoneOffShore Apr 2013 #196

When did mockery become staples of the scientific method or journalism? ZX86 Apr 2013 #256

The ignorance of science and the scientific method in this thread is astounding EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2013 #209

+100 n/t zappaman Apr 2013 #210

yep. a real train wreck.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #213

The issue is responsible journalism. ZX86 Apr 2013 #260

The whole "the media is complicit in the conspiracy!!!11elevel!!1!" EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2013 #268

+100 n/t zappaman Apr 2013 #272

Who claimed Rachel is part of a conspriracy? ZX86 Apr 2013 #279

some final thoughts.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #211

Their so advanced, we may not even see them Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #214

that's right! or even so advanced.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #228

We're all aliens with the DNA they implanted a couple thousand years ago Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #233

that explains a lot. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #239

I'll take her over... Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #248

Anchorage UFO Incident cantbeserious Apr 2013 #231

So utterly bizarre Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #246

Good for her! Not mocking such woo is a fault. MineralMan Apr 2013 #249

I'm honestly OK with UFO hearings being mocked. n/t gollygee Apr 2013 #277

Usually I love Rachel in all she does aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2013 #304

Rachel is mocking the "panel of gerbils" that are conducting the "investigation." immoderate Apr 2013 #305

Who claimed that the ex-Congress persons were experts? ZX86 Apr 2013 #311

Well, I don't see that it causes any harm... immoderate Apr 2013 #325

Then there are people nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #318

No scientist 'discounts things out of hand...' immoderate Apr 2013 #322

I have nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #323

I put it at hitting the Powerball a dozen times in a row. immoderate Apr 2013 #326

With California and a few other states joining this week nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #327

Yep, part of my background ... n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #356

When I frogmarch Apr 2013 #328

Those are really neat by the way. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #329

The "subject matter" should be mocked: there is no such thing as little green men. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #330

Someday an actual alien ship will fly close by the Earth. Archae Apr 2013 #340

+1000, this country is getting dumber. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #351

No signs of intelligent life here Mnpaul Apr 2013 #377

I think you need a new hobby. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2013 #342

Good thing thread isn't about UFOs... SidDithers Apr 2013 #346

Heheheh. Iggo Apr 2013 #353

So says ZX86 Apr 2013 #357

I'm still mad about the War on Astrology! valerief Apr 2013 #352

same old, same old-- this is a main thing the media loves to mock and cover-up. NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #354

I asked a pretty good psychic about my memory issues fried eggs Apr 2013 #355

if she was a "pretty good " psychic wouldn' you not have to ask her questions ? olddots Apr 2013 #359

Many in the Main stream mocks such things. Knightraven Apr 2013 #385

On UFO's IDemo Apr 2013 #391

Wild speculation. ZX86 Apr 2013 #394

The presumption being that 'space aliens' as represented even exist IDemo Apr 2013 #406

The science Channel had a series on first contact nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #411

Kaku also projects wildly optimistic future scenarios for us IDemo Apr 2013 #414

Then dismiss the science nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #420

SETI is looking for evidence of intelligent signals, not of Earthly visitation IDemo Apr 2013 #425

Part of the science and the possibilities for contact nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #427

More wild speculation. ZX86 Apr 2013 #412

I've been a causual observer of the UFO "community" for a while phobos Apr 2013 #402

Greer is a snake oil salesman. ZX86 Apr 2013 #404

The fact is there is not one shred of proof phobos Apr 2013 #409

Up until 1992 there was not shred of proof ZX86 Apr 2013 #413

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #415

While that is true nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #421

UFO landed on our farm once. ieoeja Apr 2013 #407

It always amazes me how quickly people are to put down and mock people who believe in UFO's, Drale Apr 2013 #432

That is fine, I don't expect everyone to believe in ETs. Rex Apr 2013 #437