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bike man

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56. Not necessarily wrong at all

Sat Apr 13, 2013, 02:48 PM

Apr 2013

It is not that hard to find articles that refer to being "entitled" to Medicare/Social Security/et al. Even the Social Security website uses the word.

http://www.seniorcorps.org/medicare/what-is-medicare-entitlement/

<snip> “. . .Medicare is a system of health care that is provided by the government of the United States of America to its citizens who are above the age of 65 years. Medicare entitlement refers to the rights to qualify for a Medicare cover. There are several factors that are considered in determining Medicare entitlement. If you are a worker, you require at least 40 credits to qualify for Medicare entitlement. . .” (Bolding/underline mine, not in the article)

It is true that the author of the LA Times article refers to 'distortion', that does not negate the fact that "entitlements" such as SS/Medicare are given to people who are "entitled" to them, and quite likely some who are not via fraud and/or error.

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If one more person calls my hard earned Social Security an Entitlement. ... [View all] trumad Apr 2013 OP

You paid for it, you're entitled to it. Robb Apr 2013 #1

me thinks that's not what they mean. trumad Apr 2013 #2

Straight out of Orwell, they've taken over the language NightWatcher Apr 2013 #3

Aided and abetted by DUers apparently, if the OP is not just marybourg Apr 2013 #80

Agreed. The word now carries negative connotations, unfortunately, thanks to Right Wing World. whathehell Apr 2013 #26

That's right. The new version of the word "entitlement" is that unworthy people Cleita Apr 2013 #33

Yes, no one, in a RW dominated society, it seems, is "entitled" to anything except the Uber-rich. whathehell Apr 2013 #36

Exactly. earthside Apr 2013 #11

But what they will say is that you really "didn't" pay your way. They will say that today CTyankee Apr 2013 #65

It absolutely IS an entitlement, and there's nothing wrong with saying so. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #79

You haven't been Newest Reality Apr 2013 #4

Excellent post, you explain exactly what has happened with that label Dragonfli Apr 2013 #75

Thanks Newest Reality Apr 2013 #86

You have PAID FOR IT Joel thakkar Apr 2013 #5

And that is relevant how?? This country is a 'society'. The goal is to take care of all those who sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #12

The problem is your assumptions Joel thakkar Apr 2013 #31

No, it is a benefit Oilwellian Apr 2013 #90

Not all those receiving Social Security have "paid for it"? whathehell Apr 2013 #29

So? SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #72

No you didn't... TreasonousBastard Apr 2013 #6

Yes he did, at least if he's been working since 1982 when Social Security underwent an overhaul whathehell Apr 2013 #32

Thank you for pointing that out. So many are unaware of that little fact. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #73

The word, "entitle" comes from the French entitler JDPriestly Apr 2013 #71

The thing is, it's perfectly fine and acceptable to cut entitlements. Autumn Apr 2013 #7

And are you not entitled to it? Entitle, entitlement, entitled - all related. bike man Apr 2013 #8

Wrong. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #21

Not necessarily wrong at all bike man Apr 2013 #56

It IS an entitlement. Anything you are owed is an entitlement. randome Apr 2013 #9

The word has been used to convey the idea that people are NOT entitled to it, but have an sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #14

That's a bogus argument and makes people look silly. duffyduff Apr 2013 #16

True, but you may have noticed how many "bogus arguments" get play now, whathehell Apr 2013 #34

No, it is not a bogus argument. The right wing uses the 'sense of entitlement' framing of the word sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #40

Thank you...It looks like a lot of people here whathehell Apr 2013 #59

Or don't want to! sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #61

Yep, that's also possible, whathehell Apr 2013 #63

I used to work for Social Security. randome Apr 2013 #17

Randome that is a distortion used by the right. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #22

The actual definition of 'entitlement' is that you are owed something. randome Apr 2013 #42

Earned Benefit MattBaggins Apr 2013 #10

Entitlement = Earned Benefit duffyduff Apr 2013 #15

Words matter MattBaggins Apr 2013 #18

This is the difference. randome Apr 2013 #19

Take it up with FDR. duffyduff Apr 2013 #13

"You paid for it" ergo you are "entitled" to the benefit. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #20

You don't necessarily pay for welfare avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #27

The word "entitlement" OnionPatch Apr 2013 #23

You paid for the people now in retirement Rex Apr 2013 #24

K&R forestpath Apr 2013 #25

It's an entitlement. Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #28

You are entitled to monthly benefits, except when the SS fund runs out. Then you are screwed. Hoyt Apr 2013 #30

The SS fund is solvent for at least another 25 years...After that, it pays 75 percent of benefits. whathehell Apr 2013 #38

Assuming actuarial projections are correct, what you gonna do in 25 years with 25% cut? Hoyt Apr 2013 #39

We have a fair amount of time to think about that, don't you think? whathehell Apr 2013 #43

That's it, let's keep kicking that can down the road. While I support raising the cap, Congress Hoyt Apr 2013 #46

If all you've got are RW talking points, I'd suggest you ask Mom & Dad to give up their benefits whathehell Apr 2013 #57

I might be on what you call the "Obama Love Boat." Enjoy your ride on the "Obama Hate Boat." Hoyt Apr 2013 #64

LOL! whathehell Apr 2013 #67

They have moved the date up to 2033 madville Apr 2013 #82

Whatever... whathehell Apr 2013 #88

Ignore math and reality if you want madville Apr 2013 #89

Ignore the "reality" that most here aren't interested in apologizing for this president again. whathehell Apr 2013 #91

That's what I tried to point out when this place went nuts over Ayn Rand B2G Apr 2013 #35

That's the fascist media and GOP branding. santamargarita Apr 2013 #37

If you paid for it then you are entitled to it. Lucky Luciano Apr 2013 #41

Insurance. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #44

That's not what it MEANS. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #45

I half agree with you. Jim Lane Apr 2013 #51

You're damn right: we all should be able to agree that we're indepat Apr 2013 #47

I worked and paid into SS for over 50 years, RebelOne Apr 2013 #48

You could learn what words mean... but nah, the choking thing is better cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #49

oh to be as smart as you... trumad Apr 2013 #50

K&R Jamastiene Apr 2013 #52

might want to look up entitlement in the dictionary... dionysus Apr 2013 #53

agree....it`s mine and a lot other folks who paid into the system madrchsod Apr 2013 #54

What you said! whathehell Apr 2013 #58

K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #55

Ask them what "FICA" stands for. nt rdharma Apr 2013 #60

Republicans aren't talking about Social Security when they say "entitlement"... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #62

If one more person allows the right to redefine the meaning of words Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #66

better post than mine. trumad Apr 2013 #69

This post is better than both, and you are not wrong, you're both right. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #76

Mine's an entitlement and please stay calm, you don't want to get stuck. Progressive dog Apr 2013 #68

What part of entitle ... GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #70

Remember when "Obamacare" used to be a slur, before we claimed that term? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #74

Bloodsucker...how dare you! Purveyor Apr 2013 #77

Absolutely. CBHagman Apr 2013 #78

Webster's New World Dictionary defines "entitlement" as follows: Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #81

"Poltergeist" style? darkangel218 Apr 2013 #83

It's a benefit set by formula Recursion Apr 2013 #84

Even here some do. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #85

It's an entitlement - look it up in the dictionary Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #87

Definition of ENTITLEMENT Ganja Ninja Apr 2013 #92