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30. Bad timing for Obama making plans for Colonel Sanders to self-regulate the chicken industry.

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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 10:48 PM

Apr 2013

Thank you, Robb.

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Urgent Warning On New Bird Flu H7N9: Could Pose Global Threat [View all] Robb Apr 2013 OP

I hope this fizzles out without becoming airborne neverforget Apr 2013 #1

That kind of flu... ReRe Apr 2013 #2

Until I see some real cause for concern..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #3

I disagree Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #6

No, we did NOT have a pandemic, not here in America, at least(what were you even talking about)? AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #10

SARS did not become a pandemic because the Chinese and Canadian officials got on top of it byeya Apr 2013 #11

There is a great documentary out there on the SARS outbreak Marrah_G Apr 2013 #13

Yes the medical staff were helpful and with socialized medicine the sick woman byeya Apr 2013 #15

omg India would especially be a nightmare Marrah_G Apr 2013 #16

That may be true, I think. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #19

We did have a pandemic Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #22

Yup- my friend was only 34 Marrah_G Apr 2013 #25

Tonight it also moved to Henan province Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #32

Hopefully it's just bird to human transmission Marrah_G Apr 2013 #33

I am keeping my fingers and toes crossed! :) nt Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #37

Maybe, but I was referring to just the U.S. alone that time. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #48

CDC has confirmed that the 2012-2013 flu season TM99 Apr 2013 #44

Ignorance, my ass. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #49

Yes, ignorance! TM99 Apr 2013 #52

While it is admittedly true that there is no one standard, as per Wiki..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #54

In fact, there is an internationally TM99 Apr 2013 #58

I love it when internet know-it-alls get schooled by science distantearlywarning Apr 2013 #64

It's pretty clear that he isn't going to listen to anything anyone say Marrah_G Apr 2013 #67

..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #84

I may agree with you in principle TM99 Apr 2013 #99

Preparing how? bhikkhu Apr 2013 #85

That looks more like a zombie apocalypse bag! :) nt Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #88

I disagree Marrah_G Apr 2013 #8

"One of the things that HELP the containment of these things is by making everyone aware....." AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #9

You are correct - it was a serious situation and the next one may be worse. byeya Apr 2013 #12

lol..yeah. The WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!! threads are entertainingly. alphafemale Apr 2013 #53

Do I detect a Monty Python reference somewhere? AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #55

So true, we hear this crap 20 times a year. Crying wolf. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #97

And that worries me a little. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #98

If we choose Hillary as our nominee now, we'll be protected from the flu. winter is coming Apr 2013 #4

Viruses are unpredictable defacto7 Apr 2013 #5

WHO is investigating a couple of clusters Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #7

Thank you for bringing some much-needed level headedness to this thread. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #18

Do you have any scientific information that backs that up? Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #24

No, but it's really based on common sense. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #46

Anyone who has done any serious reading about past pandemics Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #89

Not at all. This isn't 14th century Europe....or early 20th Century NYC, you know. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #90

As a retired nurse with some background in science and medical history, I disagree. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #92

And that's your right. But I'm still correct, though. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #96

102 cases and 20 dead as of today. Still moving slow and steady. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #100

The experts tend to disagree with you Marrah_G Apr 2013 #26

Which experts? Which experts are EXPECTING an H7N9 pandemic? AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #45

Do some reading on viruses Marrah_G Apr 2013 #66

How about some ACTUAL research papers? I'd like to see some actual papers..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #82

AverageJoe90, please read this: Avalux Apr 2013 #38

I did. Doesn't change a thing. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #47

It was for the 100s of thousands affected worldwide. graham4anything Apr 2013 #60

You know what Joe? Marrah_G Apr 2013 #68

But the problem is, there's no proof that anybody is EXPECTING a pandemic from this virus........... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #83

Quack Wakefield has caused great damage. Vaccines put a ring around it graham4anything Apr 2013 #56

Graham, I'm not against vaccines. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #61

But graham4anything Apr 2013 #62

At this point all you can do with that warning is wash your hands HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #14

...and don't underestimate the usefulness of doing so. defacto7 Apr 2013 #21

Which is in itself a huge thing Marrah_G Apr 2013 #27

Well, I am hopeful that sometime around Sept, there will be a new vaccine that includes HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #28

They are working on a long-term flu vaccine laundry_queen Apr 2013 #76

Careful about Forbes "sites" contributor stories, Robb... SidDithers Apr 2013 #17

I didn't know that about Forbes. Thanks. :) n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #20

Thanks, Sid. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #51

Does this mean I need to take the bird feeder down? snooper2 Apr 2013 #23

No proof of human-to-human transmission yet. If it happens, then we can be really worried. Avalux Apr 2013 #29

If it does go human to human you should post that again Marrah_G Apr 2013 #31

Thank you and I will definitely post it again if need be. Avalux Apr 2013 #34

Great post... SidDithers Apr 2013 #39

Thanks Sid. Avalux Apr 2013 #40

Not sure if you ever read Aetiology over at Scienceblogs... SidDithers Apr 2013 #42

Right up my alley. Avalux Apr 2013 #43

These three paragraphs from the bottom of your linked old thread- graham4anything Apr 2013 #57

Bad timing for Obama making plans for Colonel Sanders to self-regulate the chicken industry. Zorra Apr 2013 #30

I just watched a BBC documentary haikugal Apr 2013 #35

I like the BBC, but the truth is, while a pandemic is by no means impossible...... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #50

I think that's wishful thinking... haikugal Apr 2013 #63

Well, I meant an H7N9 pandemic at any rate.... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #86

Pandemic? We're in the midst of one now. HIV. 30 Million dead; 34 Million infected and many are byeya Apr 2013 #77

Fixed it. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #87

Several countries have been proactive in catching cases and quarantining people davidpdx Apr 2013 #36

Can we do that here? It would have the potential of saving more lives than a terrorist(s) attack. byeya Apr 2013 #91

My husband is a family practice doc Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #93

Thanks! But, is the patient fitting those requirements allowed to walk out the door and infect byeya Apr 2013 #94

What does "appears to be resistant to vaccination" mean? Union Scribe Apr 2013 #41

I take it to mean current, because China has said they think it will be 7 months--- graham4anything Apr 2013 #59

The RNA-based viruses present many difficulties and making vaccines against them. byeya Apr 2013 #65

I read an article last week that said historically Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #70

That sounds reasonable to me. The human genome contains about 100K fragments of retrovirus DNA byeya Apr 2013 #74

Thanks for clarification, all. nt Union Scribe Apr 2013 #95

60 infected, 13 dead. I hope China gets those tests out to other countries soon. nt redqueen Apr 2013 #69

Over a wide spread area too Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #71

I'm planning to go to China next month. tarheelsunc Apr 2013 #72

Cooked poultry is fine Marrah_G Apr 2013 #73

I think the thing to do is to avoid live chickens, ducks, geese and other birds raised for food. byeya Apr 2013 #75

This is a nice blog with lots of info presented in a concise manner Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #78

There's a recently published book SPILLOVER: ANIMAL INFECTIONS AND THE NEXT HUMAN byeya Apr 2013 #79

I'm listen to "The Fatal Strain" on Audiobook Marrah_G Apr 2013 #80

Thanks, I am not familiar with that book and feel I need to be. byeya Apr 2013 #81