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In reply to the discussion: In 2008 I supported John Edwards....And then Obama. ...What was I thinking? [View all]"I still think he screwed the pooch with healthcare for example, by initiating mandates without even a public option. "
...I think you're absolutely wrong.
Howard Dean on the health care law
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022560359
Alan Grayson in January 2011:
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We still have over 30 million Americans who cannot see a doctor when they are sick. According to this Harvard study, adjusting for gender, race, smoking, weight, and just about everything else that you can think of, in any given year, the uninsured are 40% more likely to die than the insured are. That results in 44,789 additional deaths in America each year. All of which are avoidable.
This is more than twice the number of homicides in America.
It is more than ten times the number of deaths on 9/11. And it happens every year.
Do you think that we should solve this problem? I do.
And the Democratic Party does. Which is why we passed health care reform. And why we brought the wrath of lobbyists and their sewer money down on our heads in the last election over $65 million by the Chamber of Commerce and Karl Roves American Crossroads alone.
I see one party taking on the special interests and enacting laws to keep Americans alive, and assure that you can see a doctor when you are sick. Like in every other industrialized country in the world.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/20/937697/-What-I-Didnt-Hear
We still have over 30 million Americans who cannot see a doctor when they are sick. According to this Harvard study, adjusting for gender, race, smoking, weight, and just about everything else that you can think of, in any given year, the uninsured are 40% more likely to die than the insured are. That results in 44,789 additional deaths in America each year. All of which are avoidable.
This is more than twice the number of homicides in America.
It is more than ten times the number of deaths on 9/11. And it happens every year.
Do you think that we should solve this problem? I do.
And the Democratic Party does. Which is why we passed health care reform. And why we brought the wrath of lobbyists and their sewer money down on our heads in the last election over $65 million by the Chamber of Commerce and Karl Roves American Crossroads alone.
I see one party taking on the special interests and enacting laws to keep Americans alive, and assure that you can see a doctor when you are sick. Like in every other industrialized country in the world.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/20/937697/-What-I-Didnt-Hear
In 2012, despite the RW efforts to attack Grayson on his support for health care reform, he won.
U.S. Chamber Hits Alan Grayson, Bill Nelson With Anti-Obamacare Ads
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is airing ads in Florida, attacking incumbent Sen. Bill Nelson and congressional candidate Alan Grayson over their support for health care reform. Grayson, who lost his seat in 2010, voted for the law in 2009.
The ads claim that reform could cost 20 million Americans their health care coverage and, in the ad against Grayson, recalls that a Florida judge ruled parts of Obamacare unconstitutional.
The ads ask Floridians to call Grayson and Nelson and ask them to support the repeal of Obamacare. Of course, as a private citizen, Grayson cannot do anything to repeal health care reform even if he did change his mind.
Watch the ads at FactCheck.org.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/us-chamber-hits-alan-grayson-bill-nelson-with
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is airing ads in Florida, attacking incumbent Sen. Bill Nelson and congressional candidate Alan Grayson over their support for health care reform. Grayson, who lost his seat in 2010, voted for the law in 2009.
The ads claim that reform could cost 20 million Americans their health care coverage and, in the ad against Grayson, recalls that a Florida judge ruled parts of Obamacare unconstitutional.
The ads ask Floridians to call Grayson and Nelson and ask them to support the repeal of Obamacare. Of course, as a private citizen, Grayson cannot do anything to repeal health care reform even if he did change his mind.
Watch the ads at FactCheck.org.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/us-chamber-hits-alan-grayson-bill-nelson-with
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In 2008 I supported John Edwards....And then Obama. ...What was I thinking? [View all]
Armstead
Apr 2013
OP
"Ignore the smell of the decaying corpse in the middle of the room . . ."
markpkessinger
Apr 2013
#85
Enough of that ProSense. If he can't stand up for seniors on Social Security
JDPriestly
Apr 2013
#92
Guess what. You'll Never Have to Vote for Obama nor Edwards for President Ever Again
Yavin4
Apr 2013
#8
Yeah, being the PERPETUAL Hillary apologist is so much more worthy of your time
Number23
Apr 2013
#68
You're right. That is certainly not something you'll ever have to worry about.
Number23
Apr 2013
#87
Focus on Congress, cast a symbolic vote for president. If we have a strong, progressive Dem
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#89
The FIRST thing Obama DID do was the stimulus - and it was as big as could pass Congress
karynnj
Apr 2013
#29
no argument on any of your points, but by the VA primary Kerry looked like a done deal
carolinayellowdog
Apr 2013
#42
Could it be that had Dean won the nomination and Presidency, you would have been dissapointed
karynnj
Apr 2013
#38
I was concerned about a Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton-Clinton lock on the presidency
AndyA
Apr 2013
#26
I supported Obama - but it was because I could not overlook the obvious phoniness of Edwards
karynnj
Apr 2013
#28
Give the same amount of trust and skepticism to "our" folks as "the opposition" to start
TheKentuckian
Apr 2013
#44
I think that path has been closed off, lots of fail safes and bureaucratic entropy since FDR
TheKentuckian
Apr 2013
#102
You do realize that Obama couldn't actually do much in his first term, right?
AverageJoe90
Apr 2013
#46
I think the bigger problem is the poor choices we have to begin with
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Apr 2013
#47
Thank you immoderate, good to be here with so many kindred spirits!
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Apr 2013
#56
Wow, I didn't realize all the people here were for Edwards.The $400 haircut man.
graham4anything
Apr 2013
#52
We're already on the slow road now...I can't live with that...although I'm not very pleased.
Auntie Bush
Apr 2013
#95
This place is going to be a nightmare for 3 1/2 years until we all get back to....
Walk away
Apr 2013
#77
He is as he presented himself to be: a moderate Democrat. If you saw something else,
Honeycombe8
Apr 2013
#101