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ljm2002

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83. Good points all...

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:45 AM

Apr 2013

...and I've given to out of state candidates too. But if the laws were changed across the board so that there were strict monetary limits on campaigns and no one could give from out of state then it would even out.

I know that the Citizens United ruling also gives unions a bit more power to contribute to candidates of their choice, just like does corporations in general. But that doesn't mean I like the ruling.

However, you are correct, there are always wider effects and often unintended consequences. That's why the law itself tends to a cautious approach rather than encouraging sudden sweeping changes. I had not considered our own out of state contributions when talking about this. That's what's great about having wider discussions isn't it -- we have to hear what others have to say and may (hopefully) learn or be reminded of a thing or two along the way!

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