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Jenoch

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26. I'm no "right-wing Sandy Hook was a false flag" believer.

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:24 PM

Apr 2013

I am however, interested in the facts of the case. Do you have information and a link that provides details contrary to what I have posted?

http://www.thenewsherald.com/articles/2012/12/28/news/doc50ddc8b8e8a5c084913127.txt

"Adam Lanza went into the Sandy Hook Elementary School wearing a utility vest, not a bullet proof vest, state police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said Thursday.

“It was a fishing type vest, a jacket with a lot of pockets; it was not a bullet-proof vest,” Vance said."

http://mobile.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/12/20/the-other-loophole-bulletproof-armor-newtown-guns

"Connecticut state police originally said Adam Lanza was wearing a bulletproof vest. State police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance now says he was wearing a utility vest."

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Adam Lanza was bullied while he attended Sandy Hook Elementary, family member says [View all] DonViejo Apr 2013 OP

So she got him access to guns Politicalboi Apr 2013 #1

I doubt he was coming home with bruises in FIRST GRADE, in any case alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #9

Go tell these parents you think elementary school bullying is a Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #16

Well, I'm not denying that bullying an assaults *happen* alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #18

So sad all around. I wish it were easier for people to get help, and to see the paths that are Brickbat Apr 2013 #2

Lots of us got bullied. Most of us learned to deal with it without shooting everyone in sight. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #3

Most of us don't have deveopmental difficulties, either. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #8

I had my own difficulties. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #11

Fucksake Spider Jerusalem Apr 2013 #40

How many times does this need to be said here?? AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #61

I was actually defending you! Fawke Em Apr 2013 #80

They seem to have built their conclusions around whatever they want to think Jamastiene Apr 2013 #82

+ 100 loyalsister Apr 2013 #87

I have Asberger's DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #31

That was my point. Thank you. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #81

I remember one girl in Jr High who was tormented AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #54

I can think of 20 first grade children who didn't bully him, just off the top of my head alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #4

I wish I could REC this post. zappaman Apr 2013 #21

Yep. Pale Blue Dot Apr 2013 #35

And a motive is emerging. Initech Apr 2013 #5

"bruises all over his body". Yeah, so they say. I think this is highly improbable. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #6

Me too alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #10

Thank you. When I saw I had a message I expected the usual-schools are to blame meme. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #12

If my child were being "assaulted" at school, the police... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #14

I don't remember bruises Sgent Apr 2013 #29

One-one relative has asserted this w/o any verification post the murder of 26 people. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #38

I don't think that accepting his being bullied is in any way justifying his later actions, LanternWaste Apr 2013 #77

Maybe he was just nuts. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #79

This is why just as much effort needs to go into anti-bullying programs as gun control usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #7

Something else would have set him off. AngryOldDem Apr 2013 #62

A lot of adults, including some "progressives" (in other words, even a few DU members), . . . radicalliberal Sep 2013 #88

I don't doubt that he Jenoch Apr 2013 #13

That is a claim only made by right-wing tinfoil hat sites. Robb Apr 2013 #22

Aurora was Holmes and CO, nt WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #25

I'm no "right-wing Sandy Hook was a false flag" believer. Jenoch Apr 2013 #26

You are right; I stand corrected. Robb Apr 2013 #33

Robb is not the god of the gun control debate. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #50

So says you, supporter of all things guns. Hoyt Apr 2013 #58

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #65

Proud to have been excluded from your gun club. Hoyt Apr 2013 #66

It's always good to be proud of your accomplishemnts. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #67

Got your targets that resemble humans? Hoyt Apr 2013 #68

Shows where your mind is. I meant the driving range. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #69

He committed suicide and took revenge while doing it. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #15

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #17

Nah, won't alert it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author radicalliberal Sep 2013 #89

For the record, alphafemale is on record as condoning bullying in mandatory P.E. radicalliberal Sep 2013 #90

Thanks nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #91

You're welcome! radicalliberal Sep 2013 #92

My, I expected some denial but this is impressive. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #20

A mother who doesn't report or document bruises from school beatings? Robb Apr 2013 #23

Clutching at straws, trying to deflect blame from the villain of their own bloodline. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #24

It is why 100% of all guns/bullets in the hands of private citiizens need to be gone. graham4anything Apr 2013 #27

What plan do you have Jenoch Apr 2013 #30

Elect Hillary Clinton and change the US Supreme Court in the next 10 years graham4anything Apr 2013 #32

If Secretary Clinton were Jenoch Apr 2013 #47

Doubtful she would campaign on it AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #55

Of course i understand that. Jenoch Apr 2013 #57

Might as well start now, before gun nuts buy up another 100 million of the dang things Hoyt Apr 2013 #59

Thanks so much for your advocacy... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #34

Against what? A gun never saved anything, but bullets have killed millions. graham4anything Apr 2013 #36

On the contrary. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #37

A sign outside the home saying Gun inside does the same thing graham4anything Apr 2013 #39

All that would do is say, in effect, "burglarize my home when I'm away." Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #41

Back in NYC in the late 70s graham4anything Apr 2013 #42

You get the burglar Jenoch Apr 2013 #48

As a 5'3" 110 lb woman who has never carried a gun... Jasana Apr 2013 #83

I say no - she doesn't need "her"* gun. "She"** needs to get into the civilized world and call apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #84

I honestly don't understand your post... Jasana Apr 2013 #86

"Bullets have killed billions?" TimberValley Apr 2013 #44

typo. Millions.Glad you caught it, spell check missed it. Will change it. Thanks buddy! graham4anything Apr 2013 #45

Was it a typo, Jenoch Apr 2013 #49

Millions or billions -- it's still way too friggin many. Gawd you gun guys crack me up. Hoyt Apr 2013 #64

Glad I could be of service. Jenoch Apr 2013 #78

i don't believe this, looks like they are trying to take blame away from him or bring JI7 Apr 2013 #28

To all those above who doubt Adam Lanza was bullied daveMN Apr 2013 #43

Agree RobinA Apr 2013 #46

The right wing argument DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #52

Not surprising. And easy access to guns is a problem when inner demons are Lex Apr 2013 #53

The only bottom line to ALL these shootings is easy access to guns. Period. riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #56

Since when is stealing from a family member and shooting your mother "easy access"? 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #72

Most people that were bullied as children don't take revenge on children 20 years younger... Kalidurga Apr 2013 #60

Fact is Adam Lanza took a gun that should not, madokie Apr 2013 #63

No excuse. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #70

It was an elementary school, with children between 5 and 12 years old, the shooter was 20 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #71

No excuse for the mass murder. Plenty of people are bulllied and don't become mass murderers. raccoon Apr 2013 #73

IMO Mr Dixon Apr 2013 #74

I don't know. HappyMe Apr 2013 #75

So?! eissa Apr 2013 #76

I don't buy that at all. Apophis Apr 2013 #85