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89. Ignore math and reality if you want

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Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:38 PM

Apr 2013

Things are going to get ugly the next few election cycles

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If one more person calls my hard earned Social Security an Entitlement. ... [View all] trumad Apr 2013 OP

You paid for it, you're entitled to it. Robb Apr 2013 #1

me thinks that's not what they mean. trumad Apr 2013 #2

Straight out of Orwell, they've taken over the language NightWatcher Apr 2013 #3

Aided and abetted by DUers apparently, if the OP is not just marybourg Apr 2013 #80

Agreed. The word now carries negative connotations, unfortunately, thanks to Right Wing World. whathehell Apr 2013 #26

That's right. The new version of the word "entitlement" is that unworthy people Cleita Apr 2013 #33

Yes, no one, in a RW dominated society, it seems, is "entitled" to anything except the Uber-rich. whathehell Apr 2013 #36

Exactly. earthside Apr 2013 #11

But what they will say is that you really "didn't" pay your way. They will say that today CTyankee Apr 2013 #65

It absolutely IS an entitlement, and there's nothing wrong with saying so. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #79

You haven't been Newest Reality Apr 2013 #4

Excellent post, you explain exactly what has happened with that label Dragonfli Apr 2013 #75

Thanks Newest Reality Apr 2013 #86

You have PAID FOR IT Joel thakkar Apr 2013 #5

And that is relevant how?? This country is a 'society'. The goal is to take care of all those who sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #12

The problem is your assumptions Joel thakkar Apr 2013 #31

No, it is a benefit Oilwellian Apr 2013 #90

Not all those receiving Social Security have "paid for it"? whathehell Apr 2013 #29

So? SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #72

No you didn't... TreasonousBastard Apr 2013 #6

Yes he did, at least if he's been working since 1982 when Social Security underwent an overhaul whathehell Apr 2013 #32

Thank you for pointing that out. So many are unaware of that little fact. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #73

The word, "entitle" comes from the French entitler JDPriestly Apr 2013 #71

The thing is, it's perfectly fine and acceptable to cut entitlements. Autumn Apr 2013 #7

And are you not entitled to it? Entitle, entitlement, entitled - all related. bike man Apr 2013 #8

Wrong. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #21

Not necessarily wrong at all bike man Apr 2013 #56

It IS an entitlement. Anything you are owed is an entitlement. randome Apr 2013 #9

The word has been used to convey the idea that people are NOT entitled to it, but have an sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #14

That's a bogus argument and makes people look silly. duffyduff Apr 2013 #16

True, but you may have noticed how many "bogus arguments" get play now, whathehell Apr 2013 #34

No, it is not a bogus argument. The right wing uses the 'sense of entitlement' framing of the word sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #40

Thank you...It looks like a lot of people here whathehell Apr 2013 #59

Or don't want to! sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #61

Yep, that's also possible, whathehell Apr 2013 #63

I used to work for Social Security. randome Apr 2013 #17

Randome that is a distortion used by the right. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #22

The actual definition of 'entitlement' is that you are owed something. randome Apr 2013 #42

Earned Benefit MattBaggins Apr 2013 #10

Entitlement = Earned Benefit duffyduff Apr 2013 #15

Words matter MattBaggins Apr 2013 #18

This is the difference. randome Apr 2013 #19

Take it up with FDR. duffyduff Apr 2013 #13

"You paid for it" ergo you are "entitled" to the benefit. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #20

You don't necessarily pay for welfare avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #27

The word "entitlement" OnionPatch Apr 2013 #23

You paid for the people now in retirement Rex Apr 2013 #24

K&R forestpath Apr 2013 #25

It's an entitlement. Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #28

You are entitled to monthly benefits, except when the SS fund runs out. Then you are screwed. Hoyt Apr 2013 #30

The SS fund is solvent for at least another 25 years...After that, it pays 75 percent of benefits. whathehell Apr 2013 #38

Assuming actuarial projections are correct, what you gonna do in 25 years with 25% cut? Hoyt Apr 2013 #39

We have a fair amount of time to think about that, don't you think? whathehell Apr 2013 #43

That's it, let's keep kicking that can down the road. While I support raising the cap, Congress Hoyt Apr 2013 #46

If all you've got are RW talking points, I'd suggest you ask Mom & Dad to give up their benefits whathehell Apr 2013 #57

I might be on what you call the "Obama Love Boat." Enjoy your ride on the "Obama Hate Boat." Hoyt Apr 2013 #64

LOL! whathehell Apr 2013 #67

They have moved the date up to 2033 madville Apr 2013 #82

Whatever... whathehell Apr 2013 #88

Ignore math and reality if you want madville Apr 2013 #89

Ignore the "reality" that most here aren't interested in apologizing for this president again. whathehell Apr 2013 #91

That's what I tried to point out when this place went nuts over Ayn Rand B2G Apr 2013 #35

That's the fascist media and GOP branding. santamargarita Apr 2013 #37

If you paid for it then you are entitled to it. Lucky Luciano Apr 2013 #41

Insurance. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #44

That's not what it MEANS. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #45

I half agree with you. Jim Lane Apr 2013 #51

You're damn right: we all should be able to agree that we're indepat Apr 2013 #47

I worked and paid into SS for over 50 years, RebelOne Apr 2013 #48

You could learn what words mean... but nah, the choking thing is better cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #49

oh to be as smart as you... trumad Apr 2013 #50

K&R Jamastiene Apr 2013 #52

might want to look up entitlement in the dictionary... dionysus Apr 2013 #53

agree....it`s mine and a lot other folks who paid into the system madrchsod Apr 2013 #54

What you said! whathehell Apr 2013 #58

K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #55

Ask them what "FICA" stands for. nt rdharma Apr 2013 #60

Republicans aren't talking about Social Security when they say "entitlement"... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #62

If one more person allows the right to redefine the meaning of words Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #66

better post than mine. trumad Apr 2013 #69

This post is better than both, and you are not wrong, you're both right. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #76

Mine's an entitlement and please stay calm, you don't want to get stuck. Progressive dog Apr 2013 #68

What part of entitle ... GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #70

Remember when "Obamacare" used to be a slur, before we claimed that term? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #74

Bloodsucker...how dare you! Purveyor Apr 2013 #77

Absolutely. CBHagman Apr 2013 #78

Webster's New World Dictionary defines "entitlement" as follows: Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #81

"Poltergeist" style? darkangel218 Apr 2013 #83

It's a benefit set by formula Recursion Apr 2013 #84

Even here some do. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #85

It's an entitlement - look it up in the dictionary Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #87

Definition of ENTITLEMENT Ganja Ninja Apr 2013 #92