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magellan

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36. Not a budget negotiation, but how about an Aug 2011 town hall meeting?

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:37 AM

Apr 2013

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/18/1008266/-Obama-pushes-chained-CPI-in-town-hall-meeting

Q Can we look forward to you telling the Republicans that it's time that the wealthy pay their fair share? (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Well, first—this is a very well-informed young man here. (Laughter.) You're exactly right that the way the Social Security system works, there's what's called—there's basically a cap on your Social Security, which there isn't, by the way, on Medicare. But Social Security, it only goes up to the first $107,000; and you're right, somebody who makes—who has net assets of $250 million and are making maybe $5 million a year just on interest or capital gains or something, just a fraction of it's going to Social Security. I think there's a way for us to make adjustments on the Social Security tax that would be fairer than the system that we use right now.

I do think, in terms of how we calculate inflation, that's important as well.

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Obama destroyed Chained CPI and I don't understand why we're not celebrating [View all] TekGryphon Apr 2013 OP

If that's the case, why not put tax cuts for the wealthy, raise the retirement age to 70 neverforget Apr 2013 #1

America still hasn't figured out the utter idiocy of supply-side economics... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #3

Thanks for the OP, I felt it was like the Sequester. They wanted him to keep taxes down. freshwest Apr 2013 #5

He got a lot more out of the sequester than... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #7

Agree with you 100%, just didn't have time to go into details. Welcome to DU! freshwest Apr 2013 #11

He also got a massive cut in defence spending bhikkhu Apr 2013 #22

I'm surprised I haven't heard anything about it... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #37

Here's one link: bhikkhu Apr 2013 #93

His budget for FY 2014 is $900 million less than this year. It also replaces all of the neverforget Apr 2013 #94

Did it in an election season, no less. sofa king Apr 2013 #100

Welcome to DU, TekGryphon! calimary Apr 2013 #60

You might mean "some" Americans, as I'd guess all or most on this and other progressive boards have. whathehell Apr 2013 #102

You're right! This will work as well as offering RomneyCare to Republicans! MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #2

Health Care reform was massive and 90% of Americans... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #4

health care actually helped Obama with the non partisan types in 2012 JI7 Apr 2013 #10

True, but we're talking about the negotiations TekGryphon Apr 2013 #12

Thank you and welcome to DU madokie Apr 2013 #61

We will see. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #6

The polls are already in: TekGryphon Apr 2013 #9

There's no surprise in that poll; no defense in it magellan Apr 2013 #14

Remember, this wasn't a bluff on Obama's part. He WANTED it. duffyduff Apr 2013 #16

what bollocks. n/t Whisp Apr 2013 #18

Yes, that certainly fits all his other accomplishments... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #21

Actually in 2008 Obama vowed no COLA adjustments: magellan Apr 2013 #31

bullshit Champion Jack Apr 2013 #109

You are right. I think that Obama has not yet given up on chained CPI. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #17

Show me ONE budget negotiation in the last 5 years... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #25

Not a budget negotiation, but how about an Aug 2011 town hall meeting? magellan Apr 2013 #36

Which is why his budget increases SS payments to lower class Seniors TekGryphon Apr 2013 #42

No, it doesn't protect them magellan Apr 2013 #48

Like it or not... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #51

"Obama changed that and put it on center stage" magellan Apr 2013 #57

So you were shown he's been in favour of it for at least 2 years muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #74

Watch the video posted on DU of Democracy Now on Pete Peterson. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #63

Read this article. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #66

How about this from 2011? bvar22 Apr 2013 #111

What would Obama put on the table that would in effect have Reps backing off? Sheepshank Apr 2013 #88

THIS. A lot of how this will play out is still up in the air, I think. Volaris Apr 2013 #24

Yes. Thanks. elleng Apr 2013 #8

This won't be a popular OP with many. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #13

His/her facts don't fit reality either. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #114

This is a preposterous theory, and even the supporting facts are wrong cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #15

Allow me to interject a little reality into your revisionism: TekGryphon Apr 2013 #19

Seriously? You want to go with that? Rex Apr 2013 #23

That's the origin of the Individual Mandate. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #26

Give you a break? Rex Apr 2013 #28

The Heritage Foundation? Oilwellian Apr 2013 #105

Yes, when the Republicans slipped the individual mandate into Obama care in 1989. cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #38

I'm not following, sorry. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #53

Well you know how informative the Heritage Foundation is! Rex Apr 2013 #29

Are you illiterate? Or just trolling? TekGryphon Apr 2013 #35

I was going to ask you the same thing. Rex Apr 2013 #41

Can you actually say anything? TekGryphon Apr 2013 #44

No I don't think that is it at all, but thanks anyway. Rex Apr 2013 #45

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #47

Of course. Rex Apr 2013 #50

"Projection Theater." Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #69

It's really a shame you had that post hidden and can no longer post in this thread Number23 Apr 2013 #62

+1. nt MADem Apr 2013 #89

Are you aware that Romney is a Republican? GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #75

So we got health care that Doctor_J Apr 2013 #95

NOT to mention... Oilwellian Apr 2013 #106

"Every government is run by liars and nothing they say should be believed." ~I.F. Stone n/t DeSwiss Apr 2013 #20

That's the mantra of libertarians. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #27

He didn't. We did. Warpy Apr 2013 #30

Half right, half wrong. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #33

Holding Obama's feet to the fire is exactly what everyone was supposed to do. Sheepshank Apr 2013 #90

I am just not sure what Obama is up to - too soon to tell mettamega Apr 2013 #32

He has a long history and record... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #34

Hear! Hear! solara Apr 2013 #40

You haven't seen very many horror movies, have you? MNBrewer Apr 2013 #80

Sorry, frequently things are exactly what they appear to be. caseymoz Apr 2013 #39

If that's the case, then publicizing the case against chained CPI *helps,* not hurts, his plan. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #43

Of course. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #46

so what? if you're correct, small potatoes in light of the greater service & it will all come out HiPointDem Apr 2013 #55

The whole thing also advertised his jobs and universal daycare. nt patrice Apr 2013 #49

I'm inclined to want to go along with your argument, but ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #52

From the White House (a good read, but focus on the first paragraph) TekGryphon Apr 2013 #56

We should propose an abortion ban LittleBlue Apr 2013 #54

If social reforms were legislated the way budgets are... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #58

Thats what I've been trying to say too madokie Apr 2013 #59

Resorting to the ACA to defend Obama's games is another fail magellan Apr 2013 #64

You seem to be arguing that Republicans are going to be consistent Fumesucker Apr 2013 #67

You obviously missed the point magellan Apr 2013 #68

No, I read your OP. Fumesucker Apr 2013 #70

No, sorry, you're still way off track magellan Apr 2013 #71

Chained CPI will never be madokie Apr 2013 #72

Welcome to DU, TekGryphon Hekate Apr 2013 #65

Another post that assumes the audience here are idiots. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #73

This is a foolish argument to make.... dtom67 Apr 2013 #76

Maybe the worst post on this topic ever! LOL, unbelievable! Logical Apr 2013 #77

Whether this was "clever", remains to be seen OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #78

Oh brother. vi5 Apr 2013 #79

Now hang with me on this BlueStreak Apr 2013 #84

Until the election vi5 Apr 2013 #86

They won't wait fo rthe election BlueStreak Apr 2013 #87

No, *WE* are destroying Chained CPI. Obama just looks like a dumbass on this. reformist2 Apr 2013 #81

He didn't destroy the argument for it, he advanced it instead Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #82

We keep ignoring that Serious People want and expect the Chained CPI Babel_17 Apr 2013 #107

The only thing Obama destroyed is our chance to win back the house in 2014 bowens43 Apr 2013 #83

Nonsense! Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #85

Going by this "rationale," Obama didn't want the ACA either. forestpath Apr 2013 #91

That's the most irrational excuse for Obama's blunder... 99Forever Apr 2013 #92

It was a pathetic attempt to help prop up the 3 people that Rex Apr 2013 #96

+1 nt HomeboyHombre Apr 2013 #98

Ah, the 11 levels of chess excuse HomeboyHombre Apr 2013 #97

... as telegraphed by the President himself: sofa king Apr 2013 #104

Wow, great plan: HomeboyHombre Apr 2013 #117

reminds me of the Pee Wee Herman bike fall..."I meant to do that!" Safetykitten Apr 2013 #99

Making cuts to Social Security the national Democratic Party agenda is something to celebrate? Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #101

OFFS. progressoid Apr 2013 #103

"WE won the argument, but Obama was the one who let us have that argument." Skittles Apr 2013 #113

The Republicans are going to hold the debt ceiling hostage Babel_17 Apr 2013 #108

LOL Skittles Apr 2013 #110

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014454861 GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #112

This is how you destroy chained CPI Mnpaul Apr 2013 #115

. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #116