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In reply to the discussion: First SOPA/PIPA, now Komen. We're on to something here, folks! [View all]Ms. Toad
(38,692 posts)6. Not quite so fast...
There's a lot of talk about corporate personhood being bad - and SOPA/PIPA was primarily motivated by corporations exerting free speech rights. (Yes, there was a major response by people to the actions taken by the corporations, but both SOPA and PIPA were around long before the corporate blackouts and barely noticed.)
So - are we only against corporate personhood when they speak with a voice we don't like? What about when they use their money to motivate our voices?
http://www.valleyadvocate.com/article.cfm?aid=14608
UCLA Law School professor Eugene Volokh challenges the idea that people who like today's "blackout" protests by Internet companies can also dislike the now-lowered limits on corporate speech thanks to the Citizens United decision:
Per the Wall Street Journal, ComScore estimates 10 million people will feel the effects of the Wikipedia blackout today. Everyone who visits Google Search's homepage, everyone who tries to go to Reddit during the 12-hour period from 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. EST, everyone who visits any of a number of other high-volume sites will also get the message. In terms of scale and scope for a single political message, this is, at the least, very rare. Are the rules different in a case like this? And should they be?
Today, Googles U.S. query page features an anti-Stop-Online-Piracy-Act statement from Google. Say that Congress concludes that its unfair for Google to be able to speak so broadly, in a way that ordinary Americans (including ordinary Congressmen) generally cant. Congress therefore enacts a statute banning all corporations from spending their money and therefore banning them from speaking in support of or opposition to any statute. What would you say about such a statute? Again, I limit the question to those who think corporations generally lack First Amendment rights.
Per the Wall Street Journal, ComScore estimates 10 million people will feel the effects of the Wikipedia blackout today. Everyone who visits Google Search's homepage, everyone who tries to go to Reddit during the 12-hour period from 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. EST, everyone who visits any of a number of other high-volume sites will also get the message. In terms of scale and scope for a single political message, this is, at the least, very rare. Are the rules different in a case like this? And should they be?
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As much as I mock it, social media is really making an impact - for the better!
Cooley Hurd
Feb 2012
#1
It works in election years. I am not so sure it is that effective in off years. I may be wrong.
jwirr
Feb 2012
#3
You implied a relation between corporate personhood and the blackout.
2ndAmForComputers
Feb 2012
#25
If corporations stayed out of politics, there wouldn't be a NEED for a blackout!
2ndAmForComputers
Feb 2012
#27
I think you are limiting a general feeling that corporations should be out of politics
Ms. Toad
Feb 2012
#15