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Ms. Toad

(38,692 posts)
6. Not quite so fast...
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 03:19 PM
Feb 2012

There's a lot of talk about corporate personhood being bad - and SOPA/PIPA was primarily motivated by corporations exerting free speech rights. (Yes, there was a major response by people to the actions taken by the corporations, but both SOPA and PIPA were around long before the corporate blackouts and barely noticed.)

So - are we only against corporate personhood when they speak with a voice we don't like? What about when they use their money to motivate our voices?

http://www.valleyadvocate.com/article.cfm?aid=14608

UCLA Law School professor Eugene Volokh challenges the idea that people who like today's "blackout" protests by Internet companies can also dislike the now-lowered limits on corporate speech thanks to the Citizens United decision:


Today, Google’s U.S. query page features an anti-Stop-Online-Piracy-Act statement from Google. Say that Congress concludes that it’s unfair for Google to be able to speak so broadly, in a way that ordinary Americans (including ordinary Congressmen) generally can’t. Congress therefore enacts a statute banning all corporations from spending their money — and therefore banning them from speaking — in support of or opposition to any statute. What would you say about such a statute? Again, I limit the question to those who think corporations generally lack First Amendment rights.


Per the Wall Street Journal, ComScore estimates 10 million people will feel the effects of the Wikipedia blackout today. Everyone who visits Google Search's homepage, everyone who tries to go to Reddit during the 12-hour period from 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. EST, everyone who visits any of a number of other high-volume sites will also get the message. In terms of scale and scope for a single political message, this is, at the least, very rare. Are the rules different in a case like this? And should they be?



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As much as I mock it, social media is really making an impact - for the better! Cooley Hurd Feb 2012 #1
It works in election years. I am not so sure it is that effective in off years. I may be wrong. jwirr Feb 2012 #3
Social Media is evolving so fast, that it's hard to say. Kber Feb 2012 #5
We are in uncharted territory. randome Feb 2012 #11
K and R DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #2
It happens with CorpMedia cannot contain the flood of progressive ideas! KansDem Feb 2012 #4
Not quite so fast... Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #6
People saw the message at high traffic sites, true, hedgehog Feb 2012 #7
It isn't just that they saw the message at high traffic sites Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #8
"voices we are trying to silence" 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #10
Not quite sure what you think is bullcrap. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #17
The SOPA/PIPA blackout did NOT depend on Citizens United to happen. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #20
I wasn't implying it did. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #23
You implied a relation between corporate personhood and the blackout. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #25
I implied a relastionship between the recent decision Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #26
If corporations stayed out of politics, there wouldn't be a NEED for a blackout! 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #27
You're missing the point. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #28
"We happen to like the goals of one side better than the other" 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #29
I wasn't discussing the goal - but the tool used to get there. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #30
You raise some interesting points. randome Feb 2012 #12
A friend of mine posted that article on his FB wall. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #16
Corporate personhood was not in any way necessary for the blackouts. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #9
But it was corporate voices which are responsible for them. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #14
Or was it that the corporate voices gave hedgehog Feb 2012 #18
I work in an area that makes me aware of SOPA/PIPA Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #19
I think that's missing the point. silverweb Feb 2012 #13
I think you are limiting a general feeling that corporations should be out of politics Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #15
WE (liberal bloggers) also got Trent Loyt out of the Senate leadership underpants Feb 2012 #21
I credit OWS for this - TBF Feb 2012 #22
Hear, hear! woo me with science Feb 2012 #24
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