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Yes, ProSense Apr 2013 #1
... Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #3
As Robert Reich said unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #4
That's what the apologists miss magellan Apr 2013 #15
+1 HiPointDem Apr 2013 #55
Good post. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #116
It's the other way around. 80% of the REAL PEOPLE have 100s of other more important issues graham4anything Apr 2013 #74
Obama is a lot smarter than the aggregate of the republicon party madokie Apr 2013 #69
spoken like a true believer. Very sad..... bowens43 Apr 2013 #77
You aren't smart enough to understand Obama's brilliance. ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2013 #2
+1 unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #6
Wait. Two separate issues there. Recursion Apr 2013 #5
What distinction? He said at the G20 meeting a few years ago that he intended to mess with the sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #9
ACA is messing with the social programs. Recursion Apr 2013 #10
I thought I was supposed to wake you up when he PUT IT IN the budget? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #17
You may be confusing me with somebody else Recursion Apr 2013 #20
This from the guy that thinks the SS trust fund is a fiction Dragonfli Apr 2013 #37
It was Bill Clinton who called it a surplus back in 99 Recursion Apr 2013 #38
It was a surplus OF THE SS TRUST FUND Dragonfli Apr 2013 #40
Here's Clinton's SOTU from 1999 Recursion Apr 2013 #44
"That surplus was entirely because of FICA levies" - No it was not. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2013 #48
Yes, it was. The government would have been in deficit that year without FICA Recursion Apr 2013 #53
You are claiming Clinton lied about a surplus Dragonfli Apr 2013 #61
No, I'm saying it's one way or the other Recursion Apr 2013 #63
there you go again "FICA levies contributed to the past surplus" no, it Dragonfli Apr 2013 #67
Look, we both agree SS is flush right now (I think?) Recursion Apr 2013 #72
what she's saying is that without the money borrowed from the SS surplus the general budget HiPointDem Apr 2013 #102
a special picture for you green for victory Apr 2013 #70
Thick as thieves. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #119
He was but we weren't, and I think that surprised him. Warpy Apr 2013 #12
I should hope so unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #113
Thank you. That distinction is important. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #26
They will keep trying talking points woo me with science Apr 2013 #7
Does this stop the "sequester" which IS stealing food from the old and poor? n/t Fire Walk With Me Apr 2013 #13
No. woo me with science Apr 2013 #16
I honestly didn't know. But most obviously, there are shell games, smoke and mirrors going on Fire Walk With Me Apr 2013 #18
I wonder who thinks this ridiculous stuff up and thinks we democrats are as stupid as Bush supporter sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #8
+1! n/t markpkessinger Apr 2013 #11
I am still not at all understanding how cutting SS will help the deficit. Rex Apr 2013 #24
It won't. When they make this claim they are unwittingly admitting that the goal is to rob the SS sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #31
You really don't understand how decreasing outlays, even notionally self-funded outlays, decreases Recursion Apr 2013 #34
Neither. Rex Apr 2013 #35
So, how it decreases the deficit is pretty simple Recursion Apr 2013 #36
That is strange. Rex Apr 2013 #39
Of course it's strange. Wanting to reduce the deficit during a recession is strange Recursion Apr 2013 #42
Well it is strange considering so many polls show taxpayers Rex Apr 2013 #46
Most Americans think "tax", "deficit", and "debt" all mean the same thing. Recursion Apr 2013 #51
a more significant percentage of the american public thinks jobs are the most important issue. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #57
Oddly enough, tptb only beat that drum when Democrats are in office. Laelth Apr 2013 #91
true. i imagine the reason is that it's easier for democrats to impose austerity/cut social benefits HiPointDem Apr 2013 #97
Quite. Laelth Apr 2013 #112
"and so has to borrow less for the rest of what it spends" still at it? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #59
Accounting is not moralistic Recursion Apr 2013 #60
It has nothing to do with morality, it has to do with pretending Dragonfli Apr 2013 #64
Congress gets to decide when SSA can redeem the bonds Recursion Apr 2013 #65
All that proves is congress can renege on SS debts when convenient, not that reassuring to me. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #68
Congress gets to tell SSA when to redeem the bonds or not Recursion Apr 2013 #71
Welshing is generally considered immoral. GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #100
Yes. It also decreases your annual deficit Recursion Apr 2013 #115
Please use a term or phrase other than "Welshing." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #125
It's so delusional I'm not even entirely comfortable making fun of it. cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #14
It's disturbing as hell. woo me with science Apr 2013 #23
I think you need a new hobby. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2013 #19
The goal post will always be moved. Rex Apr 2013 #21
Why include "protections" if it wasn't a sincere offer? magellan Apr 2013 #22
Because the fact that it needed protections.. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #28
Right over your head. magellan Apr 2013 #43
I don't think you read what I wrote, but carry on. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #47
Oh, I read you loud and clear, friend magellan Apr 2013 #56
So, did you sign up to cast insults? myrna minx Apr 2013 #120
Blah de blah blah. cliffordu Apr 2013 #25
Okay dude, here's the horrible truth: napoleon_in_rags Apr 2013 #27
Fact is, Obama did more damage to Chained CPI in 48 hours... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #29
Fact is Obama did more damage to the Democratic party then Carl Rove could have done in 50 years bowens43 Apr 2013 #79
That says more about the Democratic Party than it does Obama... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #83
Bunk magellan Apr 2013 #86
Young voters didn't turn out because they suffered from false equivalency... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #88
Have it your way magellan Apr 2013 #92
"Ignore the ridiculously obvious" TekGryphon Apr 2013 #98
First of all, I'm a woman magellan Apr 2013 #99
I think Obama only hurt himself - Dems seem pretty united against this. reformist2 Apr 2013 #94
There's two parts to the opposition. People who oppose Chained CPI and people who oppose Obama... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #104
True. So the question people are really debating is whether this was Obama's intention all along. reformist2 Apr 2013 #108
It's faux outrage for one very simple reason: TekGryphon Apr 2013 #109
I notice that I seem to be celebrating Obama's failures Cronus Protagonist Apr 2013 #30
it's not geometric, it's transdimentional! NuttyFluffers Apr 2013 #32
The one point that the outraged conveniently overlook... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #33
There is something I don't understand... Whisp Apr 2013 #41
Yep, and you'd think his legacy would be opposite what it really is... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #45
and don't forget how he 'cut medicare'... Whisp Apr 2013 #49
Haven't seen that one yet, but it seems like it'd be par for the course for some. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #50
What were some of your previous DU names? cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #52
I've been a lurker for years and years... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Apr 2013 #118
Heh heh heh. progressoid Apr 2013 #122
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #73
Thanks for the graph! Quantess Apr 2013 #84
Thank you for the spot-on satire, Prose. TekGryphon Apr 2013 #89
K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #58
He's like the other Presidents from Illinois bucolic_frolic Apr 2013 #62
As I said before, the term "Chained CPI" is the product of a focus group. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #66
BTW- I bet 80% of the public has no idea if you asked them, what is CPI graham4anything Apr 2013 #75
You can bet they'll know in 2014 when our party is beat to death it..24 7 bowens43 Apr 2013 #80
Will you be happy if that occurs?as FDR said "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself". graham4anything Apr 2013 #81
What a shameful, insulting question magellan Apr 2013 #90
It's asking an honest question. graham4anything Apr 2013 #93
No, it's asking an intentionally divisive question magellan Apr 2013 #103
That is the angle you are playing. I have my own. We all do. graham4anything Apr 2013 #105
2nd answer- it takes a village is actually a true statement. graham4anything Apr 2013 #107
x2. Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #126
yes, and that is just stupidity. What Obama did was destroy pour chances in 2014. Hr has always want bowens43 Apr 2013 #76
Don't worry. Obama and Pete Peterson are a duo. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #78
That he did madokie Apr 2013 #82
Govern like the right.. sendero Apr 2013 #85
The apologist will Carolina Apr 2013 #87
Takes very little apologising to celebrate the fact that... TekGryphon Apr 2013 #95
eat your ovaltine Locrian Apr 2013 #96
Read this and tell me which one of these sounds more convuluted: TekGryphon Apr 2013 #101
But watching them twist their brains day in and day out to come up with this shit Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #117
I recall wondering if this wasn't the end game when it was announced more than a week ago liberal N proud Apr 2013 #106
+100000000000 alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #110
Ha ha. leeroysphitz Apr 2013 #111
If flows from the same logic that caused Kerry to intentionally lose the 2004 election Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #114
Hell, you'd think the Republicans... unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #121
Propaganda is the preferred mode of communication among the corrupt just1voice Apr 2013 #123
that's one of the things that is so terribly sad about politics. the anti-democratic aspect of it HiPointDem Apr 2013 #124
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