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IdaBriggs

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51. I get it: you are looking to make sure your own daughters don't end up pregnant inappropriately.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:29 AM
Apr 2013

And by "inappropriately" I mean:

1) When they should be concentrating on completing their basic education;
2) Before they have established a position of financial stability; and
3) Without the benefit of a mature, supportive, nurturing and loving partnership.

If you can figure out where to apportion "blame" then you have a chance of "doing something" to prevent your own offspring from being one of these "bad statistics" (where young girls and their children end up condemned to a lifetime of poverty and bad relationships due to a lack of education and opportunities that would have been available if they had opted to "delay gratification" until a more appropriate time in their lives - preferably after they have graduated college, begun satisfying careers, and met a partner capable of being a positive example to your future grandchildren, for example/among other easy obvious things).

And yes, every situation is different, and not everyone's life is "ruined" forever by these early bad decisions, but the reason it is a cliche is because *MOST* are going to come down on the wrong side of those statistics, especially with the failings of our social safety nets.]

But if you expect most of the people who are going to respond to you to actually offer insights, personal experiences, or actual useful information/thoughts, you haven't been paying attention to the DU "tsk, tsk" patrol.

Most of the responses you are going to get will be in the "how dare you judge?" and "cluck-cluck-none of your business!" variety, with at least half a dozen, "this is a made-up story, and you are trolling!" tossed in for good measure.

For myself, I advise a serious sit-down with your daughter to discuss "how" babies are made, the expectations for levels of intimacy that are "acceptable" in a relationship (per you and your family mores) at different stages in her life, how you are going to "protect her" from being put in positions where someone can pressure/persuade her to cross over those lines before she is ready (the cruelty of a parent who randomly drug tests can often be used as an excuse NOT to try illegal drugs before college, for example, and if you don't meet the parents chaperoning any party your child attends/pick her up at an early hour, you are a moron), why what she sees on television isn't how things go in real life, what her/your hopes/dreams/goals for her life are, and how you are all working to make sure she achieves them, and then crazy stuff like making sure she has a good relationship with her parents / has some kind of positive fun experience with them every week, which automatically will lessen her time to build sex-based relationships with people who she might feel inclined to please because they make her feel loved/included (when she is getting it from her family), etc.

Adolescence is a tough time; she will be doing the "hormone mood change" and need loving/nurturing while she may not always be the most pleasant person to deal with - you need to make sure you keep the lines of communication open, while clearly not being a friend, because you are a parent; families that sit down to dinner together (not in front of the television) statistically do better at graduating their children from high school without unplanned pregnancy, but "every child is different" and the joke about "how can you tell a teenager is lying/they are moving their lips" has some unpleasant truths for many (which is why you may wish to join the 'no sleepover' club now); keeping her active outside of school (sports, dance, animal shelter) will also help - you want her to see that there is more to life than a sexual relationship.

If it doesn't offend, I recommend reading some of the *excellent* advice put out there by the Church of Latter-Day Saints (disclaimer: I am *NOT* a member) on how to make sure "family" is a bunch of people you want to be around for eternity. They have been promoting "sitting down for dinner together" and "weekly home evenings (where the family spends an evening together once a week with different members picking the activities)" for years before it was popular; of course, if you go Muslim, no dating ever - so, woo hoo?

Good luck!

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How about none of the above? She could be a victim of sexual abuse. Butterbean Apr 2013 #1
This Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #4
Yeah. A child that age cannot legally consent to sex so there was a crime committed. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #6
What if the father is also twelve? Orrex Apr 2013 #28
in my state, yes. by both parties. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #29
Interesting. Didn't know that. Orrex Apr 2013 #30
it's a juvenile crime that obviously depends on circumstances PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #32
Do you know what the penalties might be, though? Orrex Apr 2013 #35
Sorry, I do not know. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #41
I'm not sure that it's useful to place balme in circumstances like these. Laelth Apr 2013 #2
The male involved is completely "guilt" free? Quantess Apr 2013 #3
Yeah, girls are always doing that! Orrex Apr 2013 #26
If you see this as requiring blame, do you also see it as wrong-doing? HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #5
This poll like all others always put the burden on the girl. Where is the boy who southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #7
This is the typical mind-set, as seen in your entire poll, Quantess Apr 2013 #8
A child that age cannot legally consent to sex so there was a crime committed. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #9
Okay, point taken. Quantess Apr 2013 #10
yeah, and if that's the case, in my state they both could be charged. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #12
Charged with what, being humans? cleanhippie Apr 2013 #45
Children cannot consent to sex. Did you miss that part? PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #46
Yeah, I get that part, but they are children. If they are unable to consent to sex, they are unable cleanhippie Apr 2013 #47
I didn't make the laws and I pointed that out when I learned as well. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #48
To me, the answer is simple: Preventative education. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #49
Yet they do all the time. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #13
whoa...who talked about punishment..I am just trying figure out srican69 Apr 2013 #18
then talk to the girl's family, PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #20
No, but this is the way the issue is framed by anti-choicers. Quantess Apr 2013 #27
Your view of the situation is still of a problem that needs to be solved... cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #34
You have a point, there. Quantess Apr 2013 #37
I find the wording of your poll option... 99Forever Apr 2013 #11
+1 In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #16
wouldn't you want to know why a plane crash occurred.. srican69 Apr 2013 #17
The way you wrote it, though, has nothing to do with the circumstances of the insemination. Quantess Apr 2013 #22
Your tone is out of line. 99Forever Apr 2013 #23
But you don't know the whole story so you shouldn't try to guess Marrah_G Apr 2013 #56
+1 LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #66
Society, though not for the reason you wrote. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #14
I blame biology jberryhill Apr 2013 #15
either you forgot the sarcasm thingy..or don't believe in taking responsibility srican69 Apr 2013 #19
I take no responsibility for what happened jberryhill Apr 2013 #58
Damned hormones. BlueStreak Apr 2013 #43
Agree. Why do people here think a 12 year old having a baby is cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #52
True enough. treestar Apr 2013 #55
Change your poll to list "None of the Above" or remove it. It sounds like a self-righteous patricia92243 Apr 2013 #21
Is this 100% true? HappyMe Apr 2013 #24
sounds like ... GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #25
"I know nothing beyond that.." City Lights Apr 2013 #31
Find out who impregnated her and, if an adult, MineralMan Apr 2013 #33
I would not even venture to guess what went wrong Marrah_G Apr 2013 #36
This thread is very disturbing. RevStPatrick Apr 2013 #38
Nothing new. Thread is disturbing unc70 Apr 2013 #39
Other: I am not a mind reader, for which it seems I must apologise muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #40
I blame the maintenance man, he was supposed to take that old shed out back down last year snooper2 Apr 2013 #42
Quite possibly, a child molester. LeftishBrit Apr 2013 #44
"...Whom do we want to blame?" I have a better question. Why do you want to blame? n/t ieoeja Apr 2013 #50
I get it: you are looking to make sure your own daughters don't end up pregnant inappropriately. IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #51
Thank you .. this is the kind of response I was looking for ...Insightful and Mature srican69 Apr 2013 #54
(blush) Thank you - but it won't get anywhere near the responses IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #59
No, you weren't -you wanted someone to blame muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #62
I don't think any of the choices applies Sheepshank Apr 2013 #53
It's none of our business really LittleBlue Apr 2013 #57
I'm really tired of the "It's None of Your Business" responses. hamsterjill Apr 2013 #60
So who do you blame? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #63
The choices in the poll tend toward 'blame'. HappyMe Apr 2013 #64
"like-minded"?? LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #67
Have I missed anyone? srican69 Apr 2013 #69
Sometimes there's nobody to blame. Xithras Apr 2013 #65
Intelligent design my fucking ass. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #68
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