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fasttense

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47. No, we don't need any corporations.

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:07 PM

Apr 2013

If any of them disappeared tomorrow there would be 100 businesses standing there ready to take over what that corporation use to do. Corporations are failed behemoths that stand in the way of progress and a healthy future. If all of GE was to be beamed up today, what hole would it leave? Yeah we would have to find another news outlet that has mildly progressive news commentators. Maybe a few savvy businesses would get more market share in home appliance and weapons manufacturing, real estate, and financing. GE's holdings are so diverse that there are thousands of businesses that could plug up what that corporation use to do.

There is nothing particularly special that a corporation does that can't be done by millions of other people. We don't need corporations, they need us.

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