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ProSense

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96. No, but

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 01:37 PM

Apr 2013

"I guess you missed the word "cuts"."

... but I take it you missed "reduced benefits"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022632157

Right. Carter not only changed the index, he proposed doing so in a way that reduced benefits more than chained-CPI would. Carter also scaled back eligibility rules for Social Security's disability insurance.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/04/11/17708056-social-securitys-peculiar-partisan-problem

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Obama Joins the Club [View all] WilliamPitt Apr 2013 OP

+++++ n/t haikugal Apr 2013 #1

Country club? blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #137

Well said, Will. smokey nj Apr 2013 #2

I wonder sometimes about BO's political acumen cilla4progress Apr 2013 #3

I think you give him too much credit. His actions are far right of center. From Crapsurance health grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #26

And these 'few other things'. randome Apr 2013 #29

this libodem Apr 2013 #105

Bread for the rabble Angelonthesidelines Apr 2013 #112

That's the DLC battle cry. nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #146

That is embarrassingly thin for a man with an overwhelming MANDATE for CHANGE. bvar22 Apr 2013 #131

He had to be pushed to support gay marriage, grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #133

Mr. Fierce Advocate: A dollar short, and a day late. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #136

Sorry, but I have to remind you that Obama spent almost all of his first term opposing Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #138

None of those things watoos Apr 2013 #149

Getting close to UA status with this email. lark Apr 2013 #57

History will NOT be kind to him duffyduff Apr 2013 #130

yeppers! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #132

K&R quinnox Apr 2013 #4

hard core fan is as hard core fan does ... AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #42

Nice example of the classic apologist. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #58

Yep. Large as life. n/t AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #140

Thanks for the laugh Larrylarry Apr 2013 #5

Watch it happen. WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #7

Well then , get ready for Obscene, because it has already happened n2doc Apr 2013 #11

It's already happening, laughing guy. 99Forever Apr 2013 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #66

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #68

What's it like living in bizzarro backward world? It's the Repukes that should compromise. L0oniX Apr 2013 #77

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Ok mr no fact links ...so now you speak for the majority? The stage is all yours. L0oniX Apr 2013 #93

You won't fool anyone here FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #94

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #104

America wants Obama to shift to the right? AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #101

'Giving away the farm'? Now THAT'S hyperbole! randome Apr 2013 #102

Democrats abandoned the party in 2010 and look what happened. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #89

What kind of pizza would you prefer? 99Forever Apr 2013 #123

We have equal credibility on DU. Don't engage in hero worship. randome Apr 2013 #71

"Minor Changes" BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #19

Clueless aren't we, laughing guy? Its happening already. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #24

LMAO ...ok grasshopper. Now we are laughing at you. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #39

Duh, they've already done it lark Apr 2013 #60

If, as you say, you are laughing, this guy should also be laughing with you. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #64

They already have. Marr Apr 2013 #116

One other glaring and puzzling aspect of this issue is the lack of Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #6

You don't brag about making fools of the Republicans... randome Apr 2013 #17

Yes Obama is in the club but not the one where he made a big mistake. wilsonbooks Apr 2013 #8

Classic Carlin. Brigid Apr 2013 #27

One of Carlin's greatest clips... Moostache Apr 2013 #73

The Audacity of Stupid? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #9

"Never mind the hypocrisy of Republicans ... ProSense Apr 2013 #10

"they'll be heroes" LMFAO oh man that was good. Hows church going for ya? n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #43

"If it goes to a vote and is "voted down by his fellow Democrats," they'll be heroes." delrem Apr 2013 #134

Seriously, is there anything Obama does that you do not defend??? n-t Logical Apr 2013 #150

WOW! The whole Truth Out piece is well worth the read. KoKo Apr 2013 #12

Yeah, this is where I pretty much tune out of caring geek tragedy Apr 2013 #13

I think the prediction about this hanging over Democrats' necks is unlikely bigtree Apr 2013 #14

A party that has to run away from and denounce geek tragedy Apr 2013 #16

On the other hand, Democrats can easily portray themselves as independent of the President. randome Apr 2013 #18

Yeah, and when you find members of a party geek tragedy Apr 2013 #22

Who's 'tripping'? Other than DUers? randome Apr 2013 #30

Well, he's put them in a spot, no? geek tragedy Apr 2013 #31

First of all ProSense Apr 2013 #21

Sure, but now the Democrats' leader has proposed geek tragedy Apr 2013 #25

There are ProSense Apr 2013 #32

Obama's budget includes increased financial burdens geek tragedy Apr 2013 #36

jobs will dominate the debate bigtree Apr 2013 #28

Jobs? Washington has stopped talking about jobs, and geek tragedy Apr 2013 #34

voters haven't stopped talking about jobs bigtree Apr 2013 #38

The problem is that when people ask "what will geek tragedy Apr 2013 #41

no bigtree Apr 2013 #45

If the administration didn't want chained CPI geek tragedy Apr 2013 #46

major point of discussion, where? bigtree Apr 2013 #47

Democrats got hammered in 2010 for $700 billion in geek tragedy Apr 2013 #49

no they didn't. That's MSM spin bigtree Apr 2013 #62

Have you looked at what's actually in Toomey-Manchin? geek tragedy Apr 2013 #74

This may be the time for Dem reps to add "US jobs"as a core principle and... L0oniX Apr 2013 #82

ya know bigtree Apr 2013 #92

Most seniors I know would work to supplement their SS if they could find a job... L0oniX Apr 2013 #97

maybe you're right and seniors will dominate the off-term election bigtree Apr 2013 #100

I've seen the suggestion of a 3rd party with a focus on SS/Medicare as the dominate alignment... L0oniX Apr 2013 #103

if it can bring them to Congress with those values, it's worthwhile (for a progressive) bigtree Apr 2013 #107

I'm not a rocket scienist but I wonder why Obama has seemingly not considered that. L0oniX Apr 2013 #109

I see it as part of the nonsense he told us during his first primary campaign bigtree Apr 2013 #113

'Radioactive' tblue Apr 2013 #50

Stop with the obfuscations. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #141

nice word bigtree Apr 2013 #152

This is not good cop/bad cop. It's not nth-dimensional chess. It's politics. randome Apr 2013 #20

It may be throwing GOP into temporary disarray, but it's intensified permenent Democratic disarray Armstead Apr 2013 #33

Of course you could be right. But the GOP hasn't been organized for almost a decade now. randome Apr 2013 #37

I hope you are right, but history proves otehrwise Armstead Apr 2013 #76

The changing demographics are one thing they can't run away from. randome Apr 2013 #79

I hope you are right....But by the time the change really takes hold it may be too late Armstead Apr 2013 #84

Well said Armstead... haikugal Apr 2013 #139

No, it hasn't ProSense Apr 2013 #40

Republicans lost an election and they manage to keep the debate on their terms Armstead Apr 2013 #75

Really? ProSense Apr 2013 #78

Really....TEMPORARY Disarray Armstead Apr 2013 #87

Even if ProSense Apr 2013 #91

You are engaged in wishful thinking Armstead Apr 2013 #106

Wait ProSense Apr 2013 #114

I'm not trying to "spin" anything Armstead Apr 2013 #124

It's OBAMA who wants "austerity" duffyduff Apr 2013 #127

Point is its bad politics. tblue Apr 2013 #51

There is no evidence it is bad. randome Apr 2013 #54

Don't count on it. n/t duffyduff Apr 2013 #128

Well, this will piss off the Professional Obama-Lovers Club RetroLounge Apr 2013 #23

gotta stand strong against the fact-free, innuendo bigtree Apr 2013 #48

Keep telling yourself that RetroLounge Apr 2013 #144

gawd, you're dense bigtree Apr 2013 #151

As long as you think so... RetroLounge Apr 2013 #153

The POLC church loves to link you to death ...no discussion ...just a massive amount links. L0oniX Apr 2013 #53

They are almost, what's the word? RetroLounge Apr 2013 #145

Thank You - Well Said cantbeserious Apr 2013 #35

Obama blinked. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #44

Funny, I think it's you guys who blinked TekGryphon Apr 2013 #55

No REAL Democrat would ever bring SS cuts to the table and ... L0oniX Apr 2013 #67

Really? ProSense Apr 2013 #85

I guess you missed the word "cuts". n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #90

No, but ProSense Apr 2013 #96

...and Carter didn't get a second term. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #98

Look at the bigger picture. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #70

Cuts to SS have been in the public eye since Bush proposed privatizing it Oilwellian Apr 2013 #110

Are the add backs to military spending also dead? is race to the top dead? TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #126

At what point will Obama be smart enough to withdraw his let's-lower-SS-with-a-chained-CPI proposal? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #52

Good cop went off script. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #56

if the Pres wants to save the economy with SS ThomThom Apr 2013 #59

Wave his magic wand? randome Apr 2013 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Apr 2013 #61

thank you Mr. Pitt! -Tthe best thing we can do as Democrats is to denounce the Obama Administration Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #63

Contact your Dem reps to encourage them to speak up against Obama's offer... L0oniX Apr 2013 #72

I actually know him personally and he is a very liberal Democrat who has been very supportive of Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #81

K&R forestpath Apr 2013 #65

i agree Bill. This president seems to like samsingh Apr 2013 #80

Let's make this very real. SCVDem Apr 2013 #83

That handful of 'smart people' here keep shouting the same old bullshit. Rex Apr 2013 #86

Everyone is guessing at this point. And 'Fall in line or else' is hyperbole. randome Apr 2013 #95

Not at all, some here want me and others to 'fall in line or else' Rex Apr 2013 #99

"Instead, he threw a live hand grenade at his own people." MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #108

Obama should throw himself on that grenade to save the Dem party from defeat in 2014 & 2016. L0oniX Apr 2013 #118

Destroying the New Deal, Great Society and public education are part of his agenda duffyduff Apr 2013 #129

i was in my doctors office this morning.... madrchsod Apr 2013 #111

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^ L0oniX Apr 2013 #117

No, no-- I've already been assured that, if the Democrats suffer at the polls for Obama's betrayal, Marr Apr 2013 #115

I was telling some friends to watch and you will know Rex Apr 2013 #119

Spot-On, Will !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #120

Meh. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #121

Let's hope it's not a Zombie proposal Babel_17 Apr 2013 #122

Win by losing. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #125

Hey dont you remember Obama did the same thing to us INdemo Apr 2013 #135

I wish from the bottom of my heart that I could find some way to disagree with Zorra Apr 2013 #142

Can't agree with your take on this dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #143

K&R idwiyo Apr 2013 #147

I fully supported Obama, but this is a major colossal blunder of the first magnitude. olegramps Apr 2013 #148