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In reply to the discussion: Will Democrats losing big in 2014 help or hurt Hillary [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Hillary will be the next President
The following applies to Hillary-
if the electorate holds the person in office liable, then which part of the congress is one talking about?
The house? If so, the house is filled with republicans these days. Therefore the house would turn opposite what is in, so
also, are you talking about the senate
Well, Jeeepers Mr. Wilson, there are only 1/3 or so senate seats up for grabs in 2014.
As such, guess who are the incumbents in most of them?
Why they are republicans
So if the senate were to oust the incumbents, wouldn't that help the democratic party as more repubs are in than dems?
Any dissent helps Hillary
Any solidarity with President Obama helps Hillary
matter of fact, Hillary is so in, she is in.
Everybody loves Hillary.
Landslide in 2016 for Hillary.
Anyway they rope-a-dope it, Hillary is playing for longterm and anywhich way you can, HIllary wins.
Heads she wins
Tails the other party loses.
Rush Limbaugh hates Hillary. Sean Hannity hates Hillary. Fox hates Hillary.
The more they put Hillary down, the more a protective cocoon goes around her and the more she rises in the polls. Putting Hillary down by the right wing is so 1990s.
The more the rightwing same old club puts down Hillary, the better.
Now, what if it's another nominee(as I suspect the reason for the wording in the description of the poll is thinking along this line -
Wouldn't if it is someone other than Hillary, hurt that other candidate in a major way?
Because the other democratic candidate would then have ALL the baggage.
Remember something-the rightwing people already think all democratic people are ultra liberals.
To them, there is NO difference between Joe Lieberman and the candidate furthest left.
They are all the same.
Do people realize that people already have formulated their opinions on President Obama and Hillary and those opinions will never change.
All the others are unknowns to the mass public, and the only thing they know is are they republican or democratic.
And no democratic voter will vote 3rd party.Not after Ralph Nader and 2000. He insured that.
So, after blasting the Obama and Clinton voters, now what would be left to elect someone the public will have the perception of being so far left?
It isn't the older seniors that vote far left.
So the wrong people will have been given the wrong message.
The protest voters would be not achieving the results they wanted because of this.
Jeb Bush would be President.
or the ghost in the room could find an opening to become President.
but it won't be the Senior senator from Mass.
Because the very people who would wish her to be President, would in fact be the ones to make it so impossible.
The seniors would not vote for someone all the way far left. They are far too conservative for it. Remember, that very same demographic in 2008 and 2012 voted for John McCain and Mitt Romney. The one and only demographic that didn't vote for President Obama and Team Obama.
Think about it. It would be another McGovern or Dukakis year.
and I commend what I believe to be very good wording on what seemed at first to be very bad wording in the poll itself.
kudos!I think.