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graham4anything

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19. Hillary will be the next President, let me count the ways.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:45 PM
Apr 2013

Hillary will be the next President
The following applies to Hillary-

if the electorate holds the person in office liable, then which part of the congress is one talking about?
The house? If so, the house is filled with republicans these days. Therefore the house would turn opposite what is in, so

also, are you talking about the senate

Well, Jeeepers Mr. Wilson, there are only 1/3 or so senate seats up for grabs in 2014.
As such, guess who are the incumbents in most of them?
Why they are republicans
So if the senate were to oust the incumbents, wouldn't that help the democratic party as more repubs are in than dems?

Any dissent helps Hillary
Any solidarity with President Obama helps Hillary
matter of fact, Hillary is so in, she is in.
Everybody loves Hillary.
Landslide in 2016 for Hillary.
Anyway they rope-a-dope it, Hillary is playing for longterm and anywhich way you can, HIllary wins.

Heads she wins
Tails the other party loses.

Rush Limbaugh hates Hillary. Sean Hannity hates Hillary. Fox hates Hillary.
The more they put Hillary down, the more a protective cocoon goes around her and the more she rises in the polls. Putting Hillary down by the right wing is so 1990s.
The more the rightwing same old club puts down Hillary, the better.

Now, what if it's another nominee(as I suspect the reason for the wording in the description of the poll is thinking along this line -

Wouldn't if it is someone other than Hillary, hurt that other candidate in a major way?
Because the other democratic candidate would then have ALL the baggage.
Remember something-the rightwing people already think all democratic people are ultra liberals.
To them, there is NO difference between Joe Lieberman and the candidate furthest left.
They are all the same.

Do people realize that people already have formulated their opinions on President Obama and Hillary and those opinions will never change.
All the others are unknowns to the mass public, and the only thing they know is are they republican or democratic.
And no democratic voter will vote 3rd party.Not after Ralph Nader and 2000. He insured that.

So, after blasting the Obama and Clinton voters, now what would be left to elect someone the public will have the perception of being so far left?
It isn't the older seniors that vote far left.
So the wrong people will have been given the wrong message.

The protest voters would be not achieving the results they wanted because of this.

Jeb Bush would be President.
or the ghost in the room could find an opening to become President.

but it won't be the Senior senator from Mass.
Because the very people who would wish her to be President, would in fact be the ones to make it so impossible.
The seniors would not vote for someone all the way far left. They are far too conservative for it. Remember, that very same demographic in 2008 and 2012 voted for John McCain and Mitt Romney. The one and only demographic that didn't vote for President Obama and Team Obama.

Think about it. It would be another McGovern or Dukakis year.

and I commend what I believe to be very good wording on what seemed at first to be very bad wording in the poll itself.

kudos!I think.

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What will hurt Hillary pipoman Apr 2013 #1
+ AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #23
+1 Marr Apr 2013 #25
Help, of course. But not so much, or in a manner such that it is overall desirable cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #2
Since she is more of a republican I don't see how it matters. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #3
+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #4
. Politicub Apr 2013 #5
Oh brother. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #7
Well, Hillary's an American, KamaAina Apr 2013 #6
It will hurt ALL of America AND our party. 2016 will be ripe for rigging and GOP will gain blm Apr 2013 #8
It will definitely hurt Hillary, but above all, it will hurt this country on every level. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #9
It doesn't surprise me anymore that your post isn't getting more Rec's BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #10
Why should this post get more recs? hfojvt Apr 2013 #14
I'm a Progressive, and it's NO "finger in [my] eye". BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #27
define progressive then hfojvt Apr 2013 #29
Progressive: one who wants to move this country forward. Regressive: one who doesn't. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #31
actually I put progressives to the left of liberals hfojvt Apr 2013 #34
who wants to see Democrats lose big in 2014? hfojvt Apr 2013 #11
I don't know, ProSense Apr 2013 #15
Did Democrats losing big in 2010 help or hurt Obama in 2012? hfojvt Apr 2013 #17
It ProSense Apr 2013 #18
Do you think you'll get an answer BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #28
thank goodness you are not providing any snarky remarks hfojvt Apr 2013 #30
You don't think you can dish it and not expect any in return, do you? And as for #17 BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #32
So it's already a foregone conclusion Democrats are going to lose big in 2014? Tempest Apr 2013 #12
It's totally the fault of the emoprogs too hfojvt Apr 2013 #16
Will hurt the Democratic party & America period William769 Apr 2013 #13
Hillary will be the next President, let me count the ways. graham4anything Apr 2013 #19
IF... sarisataka Apr 2013 #20
Of course it would hurt Hillary if she does run, particularly if she wins the WH. Beacool Apr 2013 #21
It would hurt any Democratic candidate. HappyMe Apr 2013 #22
Hillary will probably win either way, sadbear Apr 2013 #24
What a bizarre poll. Laelth Apr 2013 #26
Hillary won't be running for President. She's retired from politics. nt Zorra Apr 2013 #33
Any big Republican gain leads to Republican over-reach leads to Democratic rebounds Bucky Apr 2013 #35
Hillary won the 2016 primaries? Chisox08 Apr 2013 #36
Not everything is about Hillary. winter is coming Apr 2013 #37
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