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Will anyone disagree with this? President Obama deserves harsh criticism over the Gitmo horror [View all] cali Apr 2013 OP

No Congress deserves the critisism Drale Apr 2013 #1

But Cali would rather blame Obama. tridim Apr 2013 #3

because that post is largely bullshit. Please read post #4 cali Apr 2013 #6

Well Rex Apr 2013 #14

That's what Cali does. Sorry. tridim Apr 2013 #24

I remember when Cali was one of President Obama's ardent supporters. bvar22 Apr 2013 #86

And you would rather give Pres Obama a pass because that's what you do. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #95

not really. cali Apr 2013 #4

Yemeni President's opinion > Actual reality. Check. tridim Apr 2013 #9

Not Quite Maedhros Apr 2013 #43

Just as I said, Obama tried to close Gitmo and Congress stopped it. tridim Apr 2013 #80

A closed Gitmo is irrelevant if the inmates remain incarcerated somewhere else. Maedhros Apr 2013 #85

Indefinite Detention: A-OK now, because Obama supports it. bobduca Apr 2013 #87

Way to miss a bunch of other information there, tridim. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #58

Doesn't alter the FACT that Obama tried to close gitmo and Congress stopped it. tridim Apr 2013 #81

I'm not talking about closing Gitmo!!! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #83

"Obama sought not to close Guant�namo but simply to re-locate it to Illinois" Thanks grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #90

Closing Gitmo won't end their incarceration. The plan was to transfer them to the U.S. and continue Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #10

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #19

Bullshit....Obama is the commander in chief of the armed forces. zeemike Apr 2013 #32

+1 clarice Apr 2013 #53

+1 ReRe Apr 2013 #72

Ever heard the term "power of the purse"? tritsofme Apr 2013 #100

Yes it rests in the house... zeemike Apr 2013 #109

If Congress withheld the money, how is it continuing to operate? City Lights Apr 2013 #37

Excellent point, but the Obama-can-do-no-wrong crowd ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #59

They also acted like the prisoners were so EVIL they couldn't be allowed on US soil,.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #51

Yes, thanks, elleng Apr 2013 #52

What a bag of bull shit. Obama was blocked from closing it by the Republicans in Congress. olegramps Apr 2013 #63

So why didnt the Commander In Chief just transfer the prisoners to rhett o rick Apr 2013 #96

No, you are wrong, the current president tabled it and am sure akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #106

CLOSE GITMO Blue Owl Apr 2013 #2

Congress deserves harsh criticism. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #5

Obama wanted to move Gitmo prisoners to Illinois cali Apr 2013 #7

Yes he did want to move them to Illinois. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #18

no I'm not. as Greenwald asks, do you really think that geographical location cali Apr 2013 #21

Alrighty then. There it is. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #25

Apparently, yes. For some, when an embarassing issue is raised, it's always somebody else's fault. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #8

I don't know what he can do in this situation. Rex Apr 2013 #11

uh, he can release those cleared to be released to begin with. He can do something about the cali Apr 2013 #13

So he does have the power to release them Rex Apr 2013 #15

So he take a quick trip on air force one and has them jump on board? snooper2 Apr 2013 #23

Why does he need to close it down? Why not just charge or release the prisoners? hughee99 Apr 2013 #16

Exactly Angelonthesidelines Apr 2013 #29

Team Awesome LOVES this Classic Name to Call Them alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #40

irony subsystem failure bobduca Apr 2013 #62

Okay thanks, I did not know that. Rex Apr 2013 #31

He does. hughee99 Apr 2013 #46

Well then I will definetly keep this seperated from wanting Gitmo closed down. Rex Apr 2013 #50

I blame the entire government. Solly Mack Apr 2013 #12

Well said. just1voice Apr 2013 #22

+1000 Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #60

me too.... mike_c Apr 2013 #111

of course not, he's playing 3 dimensional chess, remember? bowens43 Apr 2013 #17

For REALZ!!! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #41

For those saying "Obama is blameless, it's all the fault of Congress": cali Apr 2013 #20

thank you for posting this..nt xiamiam Apr 2013 #26

This is a stain on our nation's honor and on the Obama presidency. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #27

It used to be Un-American Angelonthesidelines Apr 2013 #30

Plenty of blame to go around. JEB Apr 2013 #28

Thanks for posting your OP.... xocet Apr 2013 #33

Trashing thread. Take your ODS somewhere else. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #34

Problem with facts? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #64

Problem with hate! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #74

Oh, because I'm against the indefinite detention of people ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #76

Blame the right people: The Republicans!!!!! You're now on IGNORE. Good-bye! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #79

I blame everyone responsible including Republicans and Obama. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #82

I disagree most heartily, as does anyone else who doesn't have an "agenda". Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #35

Inconvenient truths. MineralMan Apr 2013 #38

It's like a vicious dogpile. Dems are trying to lead on gun control, immigration reform, and..... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #45

Thanks for posting. It's frustrating to find MineralMan Apr 2013 #48

Except that's not the point, Tarheel_Dem! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #66

And many of whom cannot return to their homes, because their governments don't want 'em. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #84

It is the libodem Apr 2013 #36

Obama and Guantanamo: A chronology of his broken promise... L0oniX Apr 2013 #39

I`m curious.... democrank Apr 2013 #42

No person with a working sense of right and wrong Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #44

Haven't quite grasped the concept of "co-equal" branches of government, have you? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #47

I guess when you lack credible argument, Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #57

Haven't quite grasped the concept of "indefinite detention without trial," have you? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #61

Nice snark ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #67

Release them to where? mythology Apr 2013 #89

Obama ordered GITMO closed and Republicans cut finding to move the prisoners.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #49

Absolutely. It would cost nothing, and not require any Congressional funding, for him to invite AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #54

We just came off the heels of the Bush Thugs acting like the rest of the world wants us dead. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #55

As far as I know, President Obama tried, but Democrats voted against him also. akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #102

"Democrats voted against him also" Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #105

I am not making this up. Some Dems voted against closing Gitmo! akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #107

Blue Dogs don't count.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #110

I'm with you, Cali! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #56

ACLU: Urgent White House Action Needed to Avert Guant�namo Human Rights Crisis ProSense Apr 2013 #65

Some here say the POTUS can fix this by letting them go Rex Apr 2013 #71

If you continue, obfuscate or exonerate the crimes of your predecessor, hell yes! RedCloud Apr 2013 #68

There is a LOT to criticize our Conservative POTUS for. broadcaster75201 Apr 2013 #69

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #70

help! calling all Unwavering Apologists!!! G_j Apr 2013 #73

Until these men can write big checks to campaigns MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #75

No, he tried, but congress would not let it happen still_one Apr 2013 #77

If the Obama administration ordered that videos and photos of these JDPriestly Apr 2013 #78

Why cant he simply move the prisoners to another of our prisons rhett o rick Apr 2013 #97

It's terrible what's going on there in GITMO KoKo Apr 2013 #88

The S.Ct. decided this issue years ago. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #91

... Number23 Apr 2013 #92

This evil belongs to Congress. Hekate Apr 2013 #93

Not if we had a president with some guts. He has options. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #98

I think that particular canard has been debunked a number of times Hekate Apr 2013 #103

been protesting it for 10 f'**king years. Obama or Bush annm4peace Apr 2013 #94

Cali, I hear you, President Obama is akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #99

+1 tblue Apr 2013 #101

Not only that, there are home grown terrorists in the US, but no, akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #104

... killbotfactory Apr 2013 #108